List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

[Barrels]

Impossible, as the Tasmanians aren't better at sport like we are

Fixed it for you.

Clearly we're concentrating on education...

 

[Periphery]

Wouldn't do it for 17 back also.

Fair enough, I'd prefer to get him for a 2nd rounder and maybe some extras either this year or next. I don't think Freo would do that deal anyway cause it undervalues Weller imo.

 

[bird_man]

I can't see us getting Weller this year. Our second round pick should get it done next year though if he decides he wants to come home.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

For all the Darcy tucker lovers.

Was told a rumour that clubs are expecting him to fall in the draft order. Late first round now

Funny you should say this...
I was in a discussion this morning with some people who were saying exactly the same thing. Big question marks over his ability to be a genuine mid after a very underwhelming champs.
Will still be a nice AFL player though.

 

[Barrels]

It's funny, people reckon we've had too many half back flankers over the last few years, but that's because a lot of them are either mids who haven't made the grade, or blokes we can't think of a genuine role for.

A really elite flanker is actually worth its weight in gold IMO. Imagine the weapon that Webster, Savage and Tucker coming off half back would be...

Still want a genuine mid, but it's food for thought.

 

[Defacto]

Kicking for goal is Cloke-like...

josh bruce and tom hickeys kicking was fairly blood average. look at them now. i'd back in our coaches tbh

 

[Defacto]

It's funny, people reckon we've had too many half back flankers over the last few years, but that's because a lot of them are either mids who haven't made the grade, or blokes we can't think of a genuine role for.

A really elite flanker is actually worth its weight in gold IMO. Imagine the weapon that Webster, Savage and Tucker coming off half back would be...

Still want a genuine mid, but it's food for thought.

i agree with this. harrold is one i am very very keen on. diamond in the rough in that WA side

 

[Half Back Pocket]

We took Newnes, Web, Wright, Acres & McKenzie who were all HBF/BP + Shenton, Robbo & Savage over the last 3 years.

time to get more pure mids

 

[God Save Max King]

This trading of future draft picks is just gonna allow the high flying "have" clubs to enter the market for out of contract younger stars like Aish and Treloar when under usual circumstances they wouldn't have had the means to trade for these guys due to their season performance. So not only will you have the free agents demanding to go to the Collingwoods and Hawthorns of this world, you'll also have the young guns going there too.

And so what chance do clubs like us, Dogs, Melbourne have of attracting anyone decent without having to dangle a kings ransom ala T. Boyd?

Completely disagree, big clubs were always in the market for players if the salary cap allowed for it. Now, they'll be in the market just as much, it's just that the Northern clubs could potentially get more in a trade for homesick talent. Examples of that being Elliot Yeo (West Coast worked to get a deal done) and Jared Polec (Port worked to get a deal done).

 

[66sainter]

Kicking for goal is Cloke-like...

Disagree, I've only seen him once this year but have seen him play a fair bit of footy over the years and he's a generally a good kick, contested marking would be his main concern imo.

 

[Defacto]

i'm all for trading of future draft picks as soon as our club thinks they are ready

have no problem with it not being introduced this year but introduced next year, if thats what our club wants

 

[FlyingSledghamer]

Futures trading is a sellers market.. They will get better deals. Doesnt matter what team they come from.

 

[FlyingSledghamer]

I think its high time the afl cut away all the ticket tape.. the rookie system. Future drafting. better system for priority picks.. its all so out dated atm.. But Gillon is making changes. Bringing the game into the modern era.

 

[Periphery]

We took Newnes, Web, Wright, Acres & McKenzie who were all HBF/BP + Shenton, Robbo & Savage over the last 3 years.

time to get more pure mids

Acres and McKenzie were mids and will be mids.

 

[Highlander35]

AFLPA hold all the cards IMO.

There was an article earlier in the season, there was talk of americanising the system, whereby contracted players can be traded to any club that's willing to take the contract.

If they allowed that, they could probably negotiate the removal of the rookie list system, alongside a better (for the players) system of Free agency. Say, 6 years total and 4 years at the current club.

I mean, technically, they could smash the system. The system is all technically a restriction of Trade approved by the players. No reason it couldn't be the NRL if they so desired.

 

[stavro#4]

Funny you should say this...
I was in a discussion this morning with some people who were saying exactly the same thing. Big question marks over his ability to be a genuine mid after a very underwhelming champs.
Will still be a nice AFL player though.

Pretty much what I was told. I would really love to get my hands on him now. Get him to break lines off half back whilst putting some serious development in him I think he could be a very nice piece moving forward.

Ideally I want to finish 15th. Pick 4th in the draft get Parish/Francis and be low enough and hope for tucker to be this year's Goddard.

 

[dewah07]

people that want to trade back from pick 6 are the same people who whine and preach getting elite talent through the door.

going the route of trading back in the AFL draft has never worked out to the effect the club could of hoped and the recent examples demons tyson/salem and blues Jaksch/whiley/boekhurst just doesn't work when we need elite talent.

also on top of this the general concenus seems to be that picks 4-10 are all relatively even so why trade out of the sweet spot in the draft for a potential good player and instead take a potential great player.

 

[BrianSpeaking]

Fortunately the talls have exploded onto the scene this year, quite unexpectedly to be honest.

Again, I think our golden run of luck with recruiting will continue because of this. I had the top 5 players early this year being onballers, which meant we needed to finish bottom to get Parish, Matheison etc. now we can afford to win 6 games and still land a jet, happy days!

 

[Periphery]

people that want to trade back from pick 6 are the same people who whine and preach getting elite talent through the door.

going the route of trading back in the AFL draft has never worked out to the effect the club could of hoped and the recent examples demons tyson/salem and blues Jaksch/whiley/boekhurst just doesn't work when we need elite talent.

also on top of this the general concenus seems to be that picks 4-10 are all relatively even so why trade out of the sweet spot in the draft for a potential good player and instead take a potential great player.

Or maybe they are just people that enjoy talking about hypothetical trades.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

With Essendon looking likely to finish below us that's another tall that will be taken.

All of Ess, Carl, GC & Bris need talls.

We're still a monty to have the best (or possibly 2nd best if we're in front of the Dees) mid available at our pick.

 

[Cannavaro20]

Fortunately the talls have exploded onto the scene this year, quite unexpectedly to be honest.

Again, I think our golden run of luck with recruiting will continue because of this. I had the top 5 players early this year being onballers, which meant we needed to finish bottom to get Parish, Matheison etc. now we can afford to win 6 games and still land a jet, happy days!

What happens if we win 8

 

[Rors]

people that want to trade back from pick 6 are the same people who whine and preach getting elite talent through the door.

going the route of trading back in the AFL draft has never worked out to the effect the club could of hoped and the recent examples demons tyson/salem and blues Jaksch/whiley/boekhurst just doesn't work when we need elite talent.

also on top of this the general concenus seems to be that picks 4-10 are all relatively even so why trade out of the sweet spot in the draft for a potential good player and instead take a potential great player.

Tyson & Salem? How can you judge that deal after only 18 months?

Tyson came 2nd in their B & F last year. I love Josh Kelly BUT Melbourne are winning that trade by a mile at present

 

[TheJackal]

Fortunately the talls have exploded onto the scene this year, quite unexpectedly to be honest.

Again, I think our golden run of luck with recruiting will continue because of this. I had the top 5 players early this year being onballers, which meant we needed to finish bottom to get Parish, Matheison etc. now we can afford to win 6 games and still land a jet, happy days!

Could Freo possibly jump at one of our players? Our second rounder, plus a player for their first? I reckon the difference between say, 24 and 17 could be astronomical based on who might be available at the two picks. Basically the difference between getting Rice or Tucker potentially.

 

[Elpresador]

Could Freo possibly jump at one of our players? Our second rounder, plus a player for their first? I reckon the difference between say, 24 and 17 could be astronomical based on who might be available at the two picks. Basically the difference between getting Rice or Tucker potentially.

Maybe Fazza?

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Here's an interesting article to consider when trying to work our where we'll finish... Champion Data have run 100,000 different scenarios & come out with an analysis of the likelihood of where each club will finish.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...-it-could-happen/story-e6frf3e3-1227434013681