2016 Draft Thread - The Rebuild Begins

[E Shed]

I watched Lee that day, he was superb. Just because he hasn't followed through with it doesn't detract from how good he actually looked that day.

 

[Docker82]

If we were looking at Litherland I don't understand why he wasn't part of the Hill trade. I'll be surprised if he's on our list next year tbh. If Hughes or Nyhuis develop enough they'll offer more in 2-3 years IMO. Litherland just isn't that good and only takes games away from youngsters with higher potential.



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[Tonga Bob]

Suns have delisted Cameron Loersch. Wanna rookie him.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-28/suns-pull-the-pin-on-tall-timber-with-four-out-the-door

 

[Arcassius]

I watched Lee that day, he was superb. Just because he hasn't followed through with it doesn't detract from how good he actually looked that day.

Mind you though, Dawson has never given a crap when it comes to pre-season form - he seems to only take it seriously when playing live AFL games, it may have contributed to making Lee look better on that day

 

[Arcassius]

Interesting that there are so many mass delistings this year - 10+ changes across so many teams seems a little unusual

 

[Tommo]

Interesting that there are so many mass delistings this year - 10+ changes across so many teams seems a little unusual

Lends more credance to the belief that its a deep draft

 

[wayToGo_]

Interesting that there are so many mass delistings this year - 10+ changes across so many teams seems a little unusual

Yeah I thought the same but then quickly compared 2015: http://www.afl.com.au/news/review-2015/retirements-and-delistings

against this year (so far): http://www.afl.com.au/news/features/retirements-and-delistings

In terms of overall list changes it doesn't seem as different as I thought it was...

 

[Arcassius]

Yeah I thought the same but then quickly compared 2015: http://www.afl.com.au/news/review-2015/retirements-and-delistings

against this year (so far): http://www.afl.com.au/news/features/retirements-and-delistings

In terms of overall list changes it doesn't seem as different as I thought it was...

Well there you go Perception is a funny thing hey

 

[Paracleet]

Then St Kilda traded pick #12 for him as a previously listed player rule from the Giants.

In fairness, 12 for Lee, 24 and 45: Pick 60 in points. Still, 12 is a higher draft pick than I'd want to be giving up in a deal for a previously delisted player. (Points presumably include some percentage probability for getting a star at whatever pick, wheres a second-time-arounder has to have a lower high ceiling probability.)

 

[Nickos66]

Didn't the points system cease to exist back then...?

 

[Harry Reems]

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/frema...ift-across-the-nullarbor-20161028-gsdetk.html

 

[Nickos66]

*Note: it's safe, not a crumpet/chops article.

 

[Alongapoke]

Yeah. It has gone over some heads.

Trust you dont mind the interlope. Didn't go over everyone's head. Like roy

 

[Dan87]

Will be some disappointed Swans board members if you lot take Logue at 7.

We're near on complete agreement

 

[Saintsone]

Berry looks good as well, wouldn't be surprised if we took him. If hamling comes over and we draft either of those two, our defence will only be missing an out and out young small defender, which tucker could fill.

tucker and berry played all there footy together , first with Horsham Saints then with rebels.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Will be some disappointed Swans board members if you lot take Logue at 7.

We're near on complete agreement

Is it wrong that this makes me want Logue even more?

 

[meima]

If freo go for logue please bypass Litherland , with pre season i am sure logue will easily go pass litherland.

 

[more_of_bito]

Love this time of year... let's pick up player that isn't in the top 35 players at another club... not a good strategy in a rebuild. List clogged springs to mind.

 

[Paracleet]

Love this time of year... let's pick up player that isn't in the top 35 players at another club... not a good strategy in a rebuild. List clogged springs to mind.

Well yes and no. For instance we just paid the equivalent of pick 30 for a player in exactly that position at Geelong two years ago.

 

[meima]

Well yes and no. For instance we just paid the equivalent of pick 30 for a player in exactly that position at Geelong two years ago.

So far what is the sucess rate of freo taking delisted player and become somebody like hamling ?

 

[more_of_bito]

Well yes and no. For instance we just paid the equivalent of pick 30 for a player in exactly that position at Geelong two years ago.

Pick 35. Hamling is in the Bulldogs best 30 and It's the other 50 or so delistings since then.

 

[meima]

Pick 35. Hamling is in the Bulldogs best 30 and It's the other 50 or so delistings since then.

Also hamling delisted around age 21 by geelong and had a good year with bulldog after that compare to Litherland.

 

[BleedPurple]

Don't really understand the Xavier Richards situation, I rated the games I saw him play this year. Imagine he will end up somewhere in the Pre season draft.

 

[meima]

This guy look promising than goddard, stradica or darcy cameron in his testing.
I know freo got apeness but really dont mind another player throwing himself at every contest.
* Edit : cut and paste from here http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17782536/knightmare-afl-draft-combine-analysis
One of the most interesting players in this year's draft is Esava Ratugolea, a 194cm, 95kg key forward and relieving ruckman, who tested well. He finished second in the standing vertical jump, third in the running vertical jump (left foot) and also inside the top 10 in the running vertical jump (right foot) and 20m sprint. Ratugolea is thought to be of interest to clubs in the latter half of the draft with his raw athleticism and the application he shows on the field, throwing himself at every contest something that some may view as mouldable.

 

[Clems Knee]

This guy look promising than goddard, stradica or darcy cameron in his testing.
I know freo got apeness but really dont mind another player throwing himself at every contest.

One of the most interesting players in this year's draft is Esava Ratugolea, a 194cm, 95kg key forward and relieving ruckman, who tested well. He finished second in the standing vertical jump, third in the running vertical jump (left foot) and also inside the top 10 in the running vertical jump (right foot) and 20m sprint. Ratugolea is thought to be of interest to clubs in the latter half of the draft with his raw athleticism and the application he shows on the field, throwing himself at every contest something that some may view as mouldable.

He's a bit short for a ruckman. Bulky kid, with big hair and a full on attitude but appeared to be very new to the game, if he's the kid I saw playing for Vic Country.

Found this. Anyone who models himself on Matthew Pavlich is alright in my book.
http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-3020-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=45510378