2016 Draft Thread - The Rebuild Begins

If available, which player do you want us to select at pick 7?

  • Sam Petrevski-Seton

    Votes: 123 45.6%
  • Tim English

    Votes: 50 18.5%
  • Ben Ainsworth

    Votes: 9 3.3%
  • Tim Taranto

    Votes: 27 10.0%
  • Griffin Logue

    Votes: 43 15.9%
  • Todd Marshall

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • Jack Scrimshaw

    Votes: 3 1.1%
  • Josh Rotham

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Oliver Florent

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Cedric Cox

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 2.6%

  • Total voters
    270

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By contrast Hill in the last quarter of the preliminary final for WP was throwing himself everywhere desperately defending. Skinny little kid was going in everywhere trying to get his team over the line.
Ditto,remember being amazed at his sheer guts and effort.
Then you find out he's getting up at 5 to work at the brickfactory before school and you know we've got it right.
Great player,great person,great story.
Then we get the bro.:thumbsu::thumbsu:
 

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And if you want to get really excited about young talent coming through beyond this year you should check out the indigenous talent from the KickStart Championships (u15s I think) with both the WA boys (back in April) and the WA girls (last month) smashing it and winning the Grand Final. Some of their performances were incredible like the WA girls beating SA 66-0 and TAS 58-6. And the boys smashing SA 92-0 and NT 50-19.

Some very familiar names from both boys and girls teams as well - Kickett, Ugle, Pickett, Morrison, Henry, Taylor, Colbung, Walley. Elijah Taylor from the boys looks pretty impressive - bags and bags of goals.

The WA multicultural boys team also won their championships (the girls just missed out on making the GF), so potential with our future academy is looking pretty positive I'd say.
 
Just had a squiz at the 2009 live draft thread when Fyfe's name was read out at pick 20 and I found this post in particular pretty funny

Funny thread in retrospect, and shows the gap between how we rate players and how the clubs rate them. Imagine the melt today if we had passed on Fyfe for Black.
 
Ditto,remember being amazed at his sheer guts and effort.
Then you find out he's getting up at 5 to work at the brickfactory before school and you know we've got it right.
Great player,great person,great story.
Then we get the bro.:thumbsu::thumbsu:
I feel a bit the same way about Logue now. Not quite the same situation but I do admire his work ethic that he's displayed in his rowing, getting up at crack of dawn every day to do miles on the river in winter is pretty impressive. And the way he talked about mental side of sport, being able to push through the pain barrier because you want to be better and or win.
Thats the kind of kid we want to draft. And he looks a super talent.
 
Thats the kind of kid we want to draft. And he looks a super talent.
Yeah he caught my eye in the U18's and seemed very mature,humble and thoughtful in his interviews.
I'm stoked with what we've done so far and am really confident we will continue to nail this draft with more quality selections.
 
Yeah I'm thinking I might get on the Logue train for the weekend before I read Petrevski-Seton's Going Places article on Monday and get depressed we probably aren't going to get him. After a couple of days (perhaps just a few hours) mourning I might just randomly pick one of the top draftees and shift to a new one each day up until draft day. The top 10 or so prospects all look pretty impressive to me - I'd be happy with any of them to be honest - including Logue, Scrimshaw, Taranto, English, SPS, Brodie, Ainsworth, McGrath, McCluggage, Berry, Marshall. All of them would add something a bit unique to our list, all of them could become guns but equally all of them could get struck down unexpectedly like poor young Villis.
 

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Would it kill them to start the draft engine already. Farksake. Dying to binge on some highlights.
 
I'm guessing the ATAR exam timetable may have something to do with it.
But as we all know the AFL is in a sports marketplace and wants its brand placed front and centre all year round.
Certainly could be streamlined without any marketshare issues IMHO.
 
What are people's opinions on Brodie?
If SPS goes to Carlton as various media source are reporting then the next midfielder picks are Brodie and Taranto.
If GC take Taranto and we are offered Brodie, do you think we'd take him?

From what I've seen he is a big bodied bull of a contested player, the question is if he is too one dimensional?
If we took him we'd have Neale, Blakely and Brodie who lack secondary dimensions.
I don't think we'd want more than 2 midfielders who couldn't do much other than win contested ball and link up.

If we took him we'd be backing one of Neale, Blakely or Brodie to add additional dimensions to their games,
whether than be outside run, resting forward, tagging, etc.
 
Don't think Lachie or Connor lack 'secondary dimensions'.
Depends how you define as secondary dimensions, they don't quite have the Fyfe ability to go to a different part of the ground and impact there.
What do you believe their secondary dimensions are?
Also how do you feel about Brodie?
 
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What are people's opinions on Brodie?
If SPS goes to Carlton as various media source are reporting then the next midfielder picks are Brodie and Taranto.
If GC take Taranto and we are offered Brodie, do you think we'd take him?

From what I've seen he is a big bodied bull of a contested player, the question is if he is too one dimensional?
If we took him we'd have Neale, Blakely and Brodie who lack secondary dimensions.
I don't think we'd want more than 2 midfielders who couldn't do much other than win contested ball and link up.

If we took him we'd be backing one of Neale, Blakely or Brodie to add additional dimensions to their games,
whether than be outside run, resting forward, tagging, etc.

I don't think using pick 7 on brodie would be a good idea. Freo don't exactly have a problem with our midfield with the amount of depth and youth we've got running though there. SPS is likely if still around as he would just be an absolute gun, otherwise freo are likely to go tall with either a logue or english. I'm personally a fan of logue and think he is the second best option other then SPS. Logue can play in the midfield too and be pretty decent (don't know if it was contested ball wise or what I just remember reading it somewhere). But if Freo can be assured that Rotham is avaliable at pick 35 then English would be the better option. So many factors. In conclusion I highly doubt freo will pull the trigger on brodie. I feel that they will use pick 7 on the best non-midfielder still around or SPS.
 
I don't think using pick 7 on brodie would be a good idea. Freo don't exactly have a problem with our midfield with the amount of depth and youth we've got running though there. SPS is likely if still around as he would just be an absolute gun, otherwise freo are likely to go tall with either a logue or english. I'm personally a fan of logue and think he is the second best option other then SPS. Logue can play in the midfield too and be pretty decent (don't know if it was contested ball wise or what I just remember reading it somewhere). But if Freo can be assured that Rotham is avaliable at pick 35 then English would be the better option. So many factors. In conclusion I highly doubt freo will pull the trigger on brodie. I feel that they will use pick 7 on the best non-midfielder still around or SPS.
I like Logue too but he is over hyped.

He possesses the rudimentary traits required to play midfield but he is by no means "able to play midfield", He's played mid once (discounting ruck work).
As a defender his rebound and intercept marking is well and truly overstated. He is definitely, by far, the best key defender in the draft but I don't know if he'd be the best available at pick 7.

We really haven't had an issue drafting non West Australian boys, even recently.
I get that people like the idea of getting WA lads, I'd love to get SPS if available.
However when you disregard where the players are from I genuinely believe there will be a number of non WA boys available at pick 7 who are better than English and Logue.

I also don't subscribe to the idea that we'd pick someone because they are tall, we have lost a load of depth from our midfield with the departures of Barlow, DeBoer, Muz, and will be losing Mundy soon too (he may not even play mid this year at all).
 
Funny thread in retrospect, and shows the gap between how we rate players and how the clubs rate them. Imagine the melt today if we had passed on Fyfe for Black.
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I like Logue too but he is over hyped.

He possesses the rudimentary traits required to play midfield but he is by no means "able to play midfield", He's played mid once (discounting ruck work).
As a defender his rebound and intercept marking is well and truly overstated. He is definitely, by far, the best key defender in the draft but I don't know if he'd be the best available at pick 7.

Out of interest, has this been a selling point or sticking point for Logue? I hadn't even considered him in the midfield and voted for him at pick 7 purely to slot into the back line. Might be short sighted on my behalf but I didn't know him being a midfield option was ever part of the consideration.
 
Out of interest, has this been a selling point or sticking point for Logue? I've hadn't even considered him in the midfield and voted for him at pick 7 purely to slot into the back line. Might be short sighted on my behalf but I didn't know him being a midfield option was ever part of the consideration.
It's a secondary part of his package. With his athletic profile and size he hypothetically has the tools to transition into the midfield but it's super hyped.
Picking him as a midfielder would be a mistake, given how little he has shown in that role.
However if you pick him as a defender and he pushes into the midfield the that could be seen as a bonus.
 
Just had a squiz at the 2009 live draft thread when Fyfe's name was read out at pick 20 and I found this post in particular pretty funny

https://bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ffc-draft-day-thread-2009.655467/page-9#post-16352402

Reading that reminded me I was happy to see the back of that selection committee. My goodness we took a spud or two that year. On the flip side there aren't too many who have gone on after pick 36.
It also gave me a fresh appreciation for Chris25 now I need to go and read his phantom draft.


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Look like Only if Brisbane bid for Jack Bowes, we will get opportunity to get either sps/english/taranto.(otherwise all three could be gone)... But logue will be available eitherway....
 
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