2016 Draft Thread - The Rebuild Begins

[jedi mind tricks]

if english or sps available,no second thought, but logue may be luxury if Marcus adams comes in next year?

Yes with the distinct possibility of getting Adams next year I'd rather a gun mid.

 

[Gussman]

I would only take Logue if both English and SPS where both gone at our first pick. The reason being that there could still be a good defender to pick up at either 35 or 40 (rotham, cox, ect).

I've seen a few people talking about the possibility of Adams coming home, making Logue less likely. How similar are the styles of play? Because I can see Logue becoming the third tall option with MJ moving on, but is that the same roll Adams would play?

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Yes with the distinct possibility of getting Adams next year I'd rather a gun mid.

In the slim hope Taranto and SPS are available, who would you take?

 

[Taylor]

How would the AFL react if we chose a player not on our submission for our options for the top ten pick?

Rotham at #7. Freo fined $75,000 for not nominating him and making them look bad.

 

[jedi mind tricks]

In the slim hope Taranto and SPS are available, who would you take?

Toss of the coin. SPS I favour being a local boy who has the better skills however the rigors of AFL may take their toll. It's all guess work.

Toranto could end up a beast and maybe the safer pick. So I'm equally divided.

 

[jedi mind tricks]

How would the AFL react if we chose a player not on our submission for our options for the top ten pick?

Rotham at #7. Freo fined $75,000 for not nominating him and making them look bad.

A hypothetical that would be funny at the time. I won't be laughing but shedding a tear or more if we passed on SPS or Toranto for Rotham lol

 

[Taylor]

I wouldn't be surprised to see McLuggage's uncontested possessions making up greater than 80% of his total touches.

Curious how he would handle a tag as that position just off the pack waiting for a handball is the easiest to lock down for a tagger.

 

[Docker82]

Adams and Logue are two very different sort of players. You can't play Adams, Hamling and Pearce in the same side. All are OK to below average kicks IMO and are not rebounding players. Logue is an above average kick and is a strong rebounder. Logue is not surplus if we get Adams, Hamling is.

I'd probably rather the mid though tbh as at least 1-2 decent rebounding defenders should be available at our next pick. Gun mids, well we did get Neale in the 50s but we are more likely to get a gun mid early.

For me I'm all for English if that's the way the club wants to go. There's gun mids in every draft and usually better KPPs. Rucks rated as highly as English are very rare indeed. If he's not there or not the one we want it should be a midfielder though and I don't care where they're from. We've lost no one but Roberton from Victoria lately. Unless the guy actively says he doesn't want to be here Wingard style we should just go for the best player.


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[mightymouse75]

Adams and Logue are two very different sort of players. You can't play Adams, Hamling and Pearce in the same side. All are OK to below average kicks IMO and are not rebounding players. Logue is an above average kick and is a strong rebounder. Logue is not surplus if we get Adams, Hamling is.

I'd probably rather the mid though tbh as at least 1-2 decent rebounding defenders should be available at our next pick. Gun mids, well we did get Neale in the 50s but we are more likely to get a gun mid early.

For me I'm all for English if that's the way the club wants to go. There's gun mids in every draft and usually better KPPs. Rucks rated as highly as English are very rare indeed. If he's not there or not the one we want it should be a midfielder though and I don't care where they're from. We've lost no one but Roberton from Victoria lately. Unless the guy actively says he doesn't want to be here Wingard style we should just go for the best player.


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I like your arguement.

 

[wayToGo_]

Adams and Logue are two very different sort of players. You can't play Adams, Hamling and Pearce in the same side. All are OK to below average kicks IMO and are not rebounding players. Logue is an above average kick and is a strong rebounder. Logue is not surplus if we get Adams, Hamling is.

Not quite true. Adams is actually very good at rebounding - imo he is just as much of an attacking defender as Logue. He is fast and also an above average kick but more importantly he is a very long kick. All three of APearce, Hamling and Adams have experience and capacity to play forward also, so you could also play two in defence and one forward and shift them around mid game even. Hamling is also fast enough to play on and negate the best small forwards - so doesn't have to play as a KPD either. Adams would give us so much more flexibility in defence because he can negate and still rebound better than any of our existing KPDs. I'm not against the prospect of Logue but I think some are thinking he'll be our new MJ but I'd say Logue and Adams are a closer comparison than Logue and MJ.

 

[maccamk]

Adams and Logue are two very different sort of players. You can't play Adams, Hamling and Pearce in the same side. All are OK to below average kicks IMO and are not rebounding players. Logue is an above average kick and is a strong rebounder. Logue is not surplus if we get Adams, Hamling is.

I'd probably rather the mid though tbh as at least 1-2 decent rebounding defenders should be available at our next pick. Gun mids, well we did get Neale in the 50s but we are more likely to get a gun mid early.

For me I'm all for English if that's the way the club wants to go. There's gun mids in every draft and usually better KPPs. Rucks rated as highly as English are very rare indeed. If he's not there or not the one we want it should be a midfielder though and I don't care where they're from. We've lost no one but Roberton from Victoria lately. Unless the guy actively says he doesn't want to be here Wingard style we should just go for the best player.


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On the same wave length Logue or English would be mintox. Logue is a taller fitter faster version of I.B.Bottson that is capable of breaking lines off HB. We all know how big a hole that is. If we had. Chance a Dean Cox we would all take it for our first pick. Only concern is can English put on weight???

 

[DaveLister]

Adams and Logue are two very different sort of players. You can't play Adams, Hamling and Pearce in the same side. All are OK to below average kicks IMO and are not rebounding players. Logue is an above average kick and is a strong rebounder. Logue is not surplus if we get Adams, Hamling is.

I'd probably rather the mid though tbh as at least 1-2 decent rebounding defenders should be available at our next pick. Gun mids, well we did get Neale in the 50s but we are more likely to get a gun mid early.

For me I'm all for English if that's the way the club wants to go. There's gun mids in every draft and usually better KPPs. Rucks rated as highly as English are very rare indeed. If he's not there or not the one we want it should be a midfielder though and I don't care where they're from. We've lost no one but Roberton from Victoria lately. Unless the guy actively says he doesn't want to be here Wingard style we should just go for the best player.


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Adams is a better kick than Logue. Logue's kicks are loopy chip kicks

 

[wayToGo_]

On the same wave length Logue or English would be mintox. Logue is a taller fitter faster version of I.B.Bottson that is capable of breaking lines off HB. We all know how big a hole that is. If we had. Chance a Dean Cox we would all take it for our first pick. Only concern is can English put on weight???

Sorry to harp on after my last post but is Logue really a line-breaker though? I've only watched him in the u18s and from those games I wouldn't personally call him a line-breaker but maybe others have seen him in the WAFL and seen more tricks? I'd actually see Rotham as much more of a line-breaking defender but without the amazing lockdown capabilities of Logue (both are good at reading play and intercepting).

Like Adams, I really like how Logue moves the ball forward quickly after intercepting/winning it. That is something all our KPDs need to do if we want to rebound effectively.

 

[Docker82]

Adams is a better kick than Logue. Logue's kicks are loopy chip kicks

It might just be me but outside of being able to kick it a good 60 odd metres I wasn't overly impressed by Adams' kicking. Nothing terrible but certainly not anything special.

Logue from his highlights may float a few kicks but hit most targets and his athleticism is top notch for a guy of his size.




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[Okinakashi]

Only concern is can English put on weight???

hmmm. A skinny farm boy. Where have I heard this story before?

 

[DaveLister]

It might just be me but outside of being able to kick it a good 60 odd metres I wasn't overly impressed by Adams' kicking. Nothing terrible but certainly not anything special.

Logue from his highlights may float a few kicks but hit most targets and his athleticism is top notch for a guy of his size.




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They both have elite athleticism

 

[Freo Dr]

Adams is a great kick - long, fast (not loopy) and usually accurate. Not sure if he has a left foot but no problems with his right. But Adams is an if (he recovers well the lis franc injury) and an if (we can get him). Be our walk up best KPD though.

My preference ATM is still SPS followed by English or Hayward for pick 7. Friday cannot come fast enough be sure to get someone good.

 

[Freo Dr]

hmmm. A skinny farm boy. Where have I heard this story before?

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Reminds me of Hayward....

 

[M_rash]

They both have elite athleticism

Ueber trumps all

 

[Scham]

I wouldn't be surprised to see McLuggage's uncontested possessions making up greater than 80% of his total touches.

Curious how he would handle a tag as that position just off the pack waiting for a handball is the easiest to lock down for a tagger.

I'm certain he would've been tagged heavily in the 18's carnival and also TAC Cup. Opposition coaches were well aware of his ability to hurt them.

 

[jusjoshin]

Toss of the coin. SPS I favour being a local boy who has the better skills however the rigors of AFL may take their toll. It's all guess work.

Toranto could end up a beast and maybe the safer pick. So I'm equally divided.

SPS is not local. He is from Halls Creek and has said he'd like to go to a Melbourne club. He has played in the WAFL but I don't know of any strong ties to Perth. Either way. I don't think either will slip to us. Suspect GC will take Taranto and Carlton will take SPS. I think we'd be fine with either if available.

If Setterfield/Bowes haven't gone, we should bid on them. If it's matched we take one of English/Brodie/Berry/Scrimshaw.

 

[Tonga Bob]

English has his own knees.

If we draft English then surely we write a ban on music festivals into his contract?

 

[Wally Walpamur]

After 162 pages, only 48 hours til it's either ***** out or melts. Bring on Friday!!!

 

[Taylor]

I'm certain he would've been tagged heavily in the 18's carnival and also TAC Cup. Opposition coaches were well aware of his ability to hurt them.

I believe there are specific rules for those competitions that ban tagging and flooding by requiring two forwards remain inside fifty at all times.

 

[Kram]

They ban tagging? huh.