List Mgmt. 2017 Trade Period - Done and dusted for 2017. Thank you SOS!

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Your scenario is only taking 1 possible outcome into perspective.

You are basically judging the finish result of this year as the finish result of next year.

I think Adelaide will struggle to win the flag. I think people are undervaluing the contribution of Lever and Cameron to that side. Gibbs will improve their midfield, however their midfield was already dominant this year. So they have strengthened an area people perceived as weak when it wasn't at the expense of defence and forward.

I think Dogs will struggle next year. I think they're a candidate for bottom 6. Let's not forget how they won games out of their arse early this year when they sat at 5-2.

Carlton will improve. I think they could easily finish above the Dogs or no more than 1-2 spot below.

So we could easily have

40 -> 30 this year
24 -> 26 next year
42 -> 33 next year

That is basically saying:
Adelaide 4th
WBD 10th
Carlton 12th

Adelaide and Dogs could quite easily finish below those positions too

I much much much rather take that gamble than the gamble of all 3 sides finishing in the exact same position 2 years in a row

Considering one side won a premiership last year, the other played in a grand final this year and we have been camped down the bottom for 3 years and lost one of our best players in a position we are already weak in, it could just as easily turn out pick 19 and 37 for picks 35 and 36.

I think last years position is the fairest thing we can go off

 

[GordonBlue]

Considering one side won a premiership last year, the other played in a grand final this year and we have been camped down the bottom for 3 years and lost one of our best players in a position we are already weak in, it could just as easily turn out pick 19 and 37 for picks 35 and 36.

I think last years position is the fairest thing we can go off

You have used the last two seasons to highlight why going by previous year's ladder position is the best method?

If anything, the last two seasons should have told you to completely ignore the previous season

 

[BringBackSimmo]

I guess this is all that matters, how the Fans feel the trade period went.. rate it far better than the AFL site..

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-21/your-trade-verdicts-adelaidegws

 

[IronMan29]

Had a dream last night that we redrafted Chris Yarran.

Do dreams come true?

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Had a dream last night that we redrafted Chris Yarran.

Do dreams come true?

Sadly i don't think in this case they do.

 

[IronMan29]

Sadly i don't think in this case they do.

Devo

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Devo

But what do i know... though given everything that has happened, i just can't see it

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

You have used the last two seasons to highlight why going by previous year's ladder position is the best method?

If anything, the last two seasons should have told you to completely ignore the previous season

No I think we will stagnate with the loss of Gibbs, I think McGovern and Gibbs into Adelaide's grand final side should cover Lever and Cameron and see them again be one of the best sides and Dogs should win an extra two games and make finals.

 

[Shambolic]

Had a dream last night that we redrafted Chris Yarran.

Do dreams come true?

What was he wearing?

 

[thylacine60]

you idiot, shambo - an off the shoulder dinner dress probably.............

 

[blue healer]

you idiot, shambo - an off the shoulder dinner dress probably.............

I would have thought a back to front collar.

Ok, Ok I'm leaving now.

 

[Lace_Out]

What was he wearing?

A big smile.

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[thylacine60]

Whatever it was it's as good as you will ever see......

 

[RudyBlue]

Any chance we can come last with only 4 wins and pick up a first round priority pick, giving us one and two in the draft?

Sounds ****ing awful tbh

We've seen enough of the bottom of the ladder

 

[Blubagger71]

I don't know if it's just me, but I would question the value of pursuing a power forward like Lynch.
He would cost us a frickin' fortune, and for what? How many finals/grand finals recently have been dominated and decided by the presence of a power forward?
I would rather see our club develop multiple goal kickers in the tall-medium range (like Harry, Jack and Charlie) supported by a range of dangerous small forwards and goal kicking mids. Much harder to stop on a given day. How do you contain them all?

And when that big forward you've invested so much in and built your structure around goes down with a serious knee injury or succumbs to mental health issues... what then?

A bit of speculation (negativity) there. You are right in that teams with a single dominant goal kicker struggle for ultimate success. Lynch is different in that he is so mobile and skilled that he does so much more than just kick goals.
My big issue with Lynch is that he seems fragile emotionally. Maybe just a sign that he wants out of GC but he seemed gun shy thus year. He would cost significantly though, got that right!

 

[Blubagger71]

Where is Weitering's best spot? Where does he need to play for us?

 

[thylacine60]

FB. The End.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Love the Pink.

 

[BIGGUS 64]

A bit of speculation (negativity) there. You are right in that teams with a single dominant goal kicker struggle for ultimate success. Lynch is different in that he is so mobile and skilled that he does so much more than just kick goals.
My big issue with Lynch is that he seems fragile emotionally. Maybe just a sign that he wants out of GC but he seemed gun shy thus year. He would cost significantly though, got that right!

I would just rather see the club develop one of our own as our key forward, rather than commit to spending millions over 5,6,7 years to lure a Lynch or Boyd (going back a couple of years). If Charlie were to develop into the superstar some are predicting he will be, we might soon be in a position where we need those millions just to keep him at Carlton.
Speculation? Sure! But then these threads are all about speculation, aren't they?

I am not saying that it would be of no value to have a focal point in attack, or that Lynch isn't an outstanding player. Just that investing too much in one player - however good he may be - is potentially risky and limiting.
Developing a spread of potent goal kickers is still the wisest strategy for mine. But... I think that is what our people are going for, so it's not a startling piece of insight from me!

 

[AB_Blue]

FB. The End.

Can he ru....

Never mind

 

[Mezzoculo]

From live chat:-

Also who gives a **** how those muppets on afl.com.au rated our trades.

They have no idea!

Annie Aphrodite. Has a certain ring to it.

 

[murphbf08]

i am struggling to work out how we could have ended with a better outcome out of that trade period. i mean kennedy for 28 and lang for 56, come on. 2 first rounders for gibbs turning 29 and an additional future second round pick to boot.also boosted our 3rd round this year to a second round. and only had to sacrifice our third round next year. only way if could have been better would have been to get rockliff, but in the long run that might be better for us as well. for afl.com to give us 6/10 is so weird. i cannot work that out. We are so well placed now its not funny, i truly believe we will be looking at the top 4 within 2 years, and a long sustained tilt at a flag into the 2020's.

 

[TooBlue14]

i am struggling to work out how we could have ended with a better outcome out of that trade period. i mean kennedy for 28 and lang for 56, come on. 2 first rounders for gibbs turning 29 and an additional future second round pick to boot.also boosted our 3rd round this year to a second round. and only had to sacrifice our third round next year. only way if could have been better would have been to get rockliff, but in the long run that might be better for us as well. for afl.com to give us 6/10 is so weird. i cannot work that out. We are so well placed now its not funny, i truly believe we will be looking at the top 4 within 2 years, and a long sustained tilt at a flag into the 2020's.

A lot for people are forgetting we sacrificed our 2018 2nd too. We down graded it to Adelaide which is likely to be a 10-15 pick difference. I've noticed the afl sites media people are including it in their analysis nor is afl player ratings on twitter. I've responded to everyone who have someone how missed this one. Am I right? Or did we only throw away our 3rd and 4th rounders in 2018.

Our 2018 changes:

Out: 2018 2nd, 2018 3rd, 2018 4th.

In: 2018 2nd (Adelaide), 2018 2nd (western Bulldogs), 2018 4th (Geelong)

 

[The Bighouse]

A lot for people are forgetting we sacrificed our 2018 2nd too. We down graded it to Adelaide which is likely to be a 10-15 pick difference. I've noticed the afl sites media people are including it in their analysis nor is afl player ratings on twitter. I've responded to everyone who have someone how missed this one. Am I right? Or did we only throw away our 3rd and 4th rounders in 2018.

Our 2018 changes:

Out: 2018 2nd, 2018 3rd, 2018 4th.

In: 2018 2nd (Adelaide), 2018 2nd (western Bulldogs), 2018 4th (Geelong)

You are correct as I recall the trades.

 

[ShanDog]

A lot for people are forgetting we sacrificed our 2018 2nd too. We down graded it to Adelaide which is likely to be a 10-15 pick difference. I've noticed the afl sites media people are including it in their analysis nor is afl player ratings on twitter. I've responded to everyone who have someone how missed this one. Am I right? Or did we only throw away our 3rd and 4th rounders in 2018.

Our 2018 changes:

Out: 2018 2nd, 2018 3rd, 2018 4th.

In: 2018 2nd (Adelaide), 2018 2nd (western Bulldogs), 2018 4th (Geelong)

Yes, so for 2018 we lost our natural second rounder but picked up both the Crows and Dogs' second. I

If we have a really good season (relatively speaking) the Dogs' pick might end up being pretty much the same. Big win if that happens and the Crows crash down the ladder a little by losing an elimination final or something.