2018 pre season

[Lions Flag 2020]

Lucky the draft and trade page has some one who keeps an up to date spread sheet.

Based on last years ladder.
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Wouldn't want to be a West Coast supporter with their list and lack of early picks.

 

[briztoon]

Wouldn't want to be a West Coast supporter with their list and lack of early picks.

Think they have a highly rated kid in their NGA academy.

 

[WA Lion]

Think they have a highly rated kid in their NGA academy.

Charlie Cameron's bother Jarrod. I wonder if we could convince him to nominate for the open draft!

Still, I would happily settle for Tom Berry instead!

 

[Nunez]

Charlie Cameron's bother Jarrod. I wonder if we could convince him to nominate for the open draft!

Still, I would happily settle for Tom Berry instead!

Why not both!

 

[Berrygood]

If theres a want for the cameron parents to move back to qld then i can see jarrod nominating for the open draft, possibly hoping to join his brother here. Jarrod finishing school, then starting his career and charlie moving back to qld, there maybe a push to get the whole family together. Both jarrod and tom berry have some wraps about them, possibly top 25 draft picks. They would both be great for the club, but unless we can trade for more top 25 draft picks would we use our first 2 picks to get them. I dont know.

Most of us, i think would like to see them here. Should the stars align, Rankine, tom berry and jarrod cameron in lions colors in 2019 would do me nicely.

 

[dlanod]

Re: Jarrod Cameron, last I read academy players can't nominate for the open draft unless they've dropped out of the academy prior to their draft-eligible year. Once they've entered their draft year it's up to the club.

 

[Dalions]

Re: Jarrod Cameron, last I read academy players can't nominate for the open draft unless they've dropped out of the academy prior to their draft-eligible year. Once they've entered their draft year it's up to the club.

So, what academy is he a part of?
Next Gen, I presume, for who?

 

[dlanod]

So, what academy is he a part of?
Next Gen, I presume, for who?

Going off the earlier replies:

Think they have a highly rated kid in their NGA academy.

Charlie Cameron's bother Jarrod. I wonder if we could convince him to nominate for the open draft!

 

[Dalions]

Going off the earlier replies:

So you dont know whether he is a part of an Academy?

Edit: just looked it up and he is a part of West Coasts Next Gen, that sux.

 

[briztoon]

Charlie Cameron's bother Jarrod. I wonder if we could convince him to nominate for the open draft!

Still, I would happily settle for Tom Berry instead!

I was thinking of Ian Hill, or is he part of Freo’s NGA academy?

 

[briztoon]

Most of us, i think would like to see them here. Should the stars align, Rankine, tom berry and jarrod cameron in lions colors in 2019 would do me nicely.

I’ve been thinking of an Izak Rankine & Tom Berry duo.

Tom is not to dissimilar to Sam Walsh, so would be a good combo. Hope Tom can put together an injury free season, to see what he’s got as inside mid.

 

[WA Lion]

I was thinking of Ian Hill, or is he part of Freo’s NGA academy?

He is not attached to either I believe, open draft eligible IIRC

 

[Hollow Knight]

Wasn’t the idea of the next generation academies to attract players who would otherwise have had no involvement in Australian Rules? I know the Cameron family started out in Rugby but signing the brother of an existing AFL Star hardly feels like plucking one from outside the system.

 

[Jivlain]

Wasn’t the idea of the next generation academies to attract players who would otherwise have had no involvement in Australian Rules? I know the Cameron family started out in Rugby Union but signing the brother of an existing AFL Star hardly feels like plucking one from outside the system.

There's always going to be edge cases, or where the academy isn't serving it's nominal purpose but is fulfilling some other one (like creating an elite training program where one wouldn't otherwise exist). Similar to the Nick Blakey situation.

 

[Balony_pony16]

Wasn’t the idea of the next generation academies to attract players who would otherwise have had no involvement in Australian Rules? I know the Cameron family started out in Rugby but signing the brother of an existing AFL Star hardly feels like plucking one from outside the system.

Because families never have siblings pursue different sports?

 

[Hollow Knight]

Because families never have siblings pursue different sports?

A fact I acknowledged in my post...

 

[cotter101]

Re: Jarrod Cameron, last I read academy players can't nominate for the open draft unless they've dropped out of the academy prior to their draft-eligible year. Once they've entered their draft year it's up to the club.

As far as I’m aware, your totally correct. Besides my knowledge, it also makes a lot of sense. Why invest time and money having a kid in your academy who can turn around and opt out and be selected by another club without your choice on him first.

It’d almost render the whole academy thing pointless in one sense, at least from a clubs point of view.

 

[briztoon]

Wasn’t the idea of the next generation academies to attract players who would otherwise have had no involvement in Australian Rules? I know the Cameron family started out in Rugby but signing the brother of an existing AFL Star hardly feels like plucking one from outside the system.

Not here for an argument, just providing some information I have read over the time.

The initial information released from the AFL also mentioned indigenous Australians who live outside the major metropolitan areas. Pretty sure there was something about, while many such communities may play football, individuals from such communities may struggle to adapt to a professional environment or move away from there communities, etc.

Also, the NGA academies are open to kids who have one parent from a non english speaking background. There are several kids who have one or both parents from a non english speaking background, who were already playing football from being introduced to it by their friends, school, community, acclimatising to Australian/Victorian culture etc, who have "fallen" into various academies. A couple of these kids are highly rated and even part of the National Academy set up.

To put it in to perspective, and forgetting the draft year, if Andrew McGrath had been born in Hungary or Poland and not Canada, he would have qualified as an NGA prospect to which ever club who's zone he was part of.

From the last census, nearly 30% of Australians were born overseas. That's a huge potential population the southern and western clubs have to draw upon.

 

[Balony_pony16]

A fact I acknowledged in my post...

"hardly feels like plucking one from outside the system"

Didn't know maybe watching a game because his brother played counts as recruiting "inside the system"...but ok

 

[Haso]

"hardly feels like plucking one from outside the system"

Didn't know maybe watching a game because his brother played counts as recruiting "inside the system"...but ok

You post as though you're spoiling for a fight. Everything ok?

 

[iBeng]

You post as though you're spoiling for a fight. Everything ok?

Why, you wanna fight about it?

 

[Mr Ripper]

You post as though you're spoiling for a fight. Everything ok?

 

[jjami15]

Well I've watched the Suns first quarter and a half of a pre-season game and we'll be finishing last in comparison.Am I doing this right?

 

[iBeng]

Suns lightyears ahead, Cats will be lucky to make the eight.

 

[Dalions]

Well I've watched the Suns first quarter and a half of a pre-season game and we'll be finishing last in comparison.Am I doing this right?

You might very well be right!