Mega Thread 2019 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread #2

[hoss]

It really isn't

I think it is. Happy to keep Hill but I'd take two first rounders over the solitary number 6. It's not like we're going to have too much competition from the Eagles fighting for the local lads over the next two drafts and two picks in the teens represents more accurate value for a couple of the WA lads imo.

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[Tbonefreo]

The saints supporters are so easy to wind up.

They can't come to terms it's win win for freo.

 

[PurpleEyes]

We can match the Henry bid at #12 with 1014 points anywhere. That's pick #26 and #49.

We have been given the chance to get a first round pick in Henry for a couple of much later picks. Nobody is trading #26 and #49 for pick #12 but we would have that win.

If we went in with #6, #7, #26 and #49 we walk out with #6, #7, #12 and #72

If we go in with #7, #12, #18, #26 (four picks), we walk out with #7, #12, #18 and #26

I don't think an upgrade of our last pick is worth downgrading the first pick out of the top ten.

That's where I strongly disagree.
I think the opportunity for Freo to get one extra player (<#30 draft pick equivalent) is worth more to Freo when we have to replace 8 players on our list.
My biggest worry in 2019 is how Freo are going to replace 8 players ... hence #12 & #18 is worth considerably more to me than #6.

 

[DanWA]

The saints supporters are so easy to wind up.

They can't come to terms it's win win for freo.

This

Haven't see one level headed one yet to admin the obvious

Freo want to keep Hill or it has to be massive overs

 

[Kapow!!!]

I think it is. Happy to keep Hill but I'd take two first rounders over the solitary number 6. It's not like we're going to have too much competition from the Eagles fighting for the local lads over the next two drafts and two picks in the teens represents more accurate value for a couple of the WA lads imo.

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I'd rather get the best talent and not the best local. Especially as one of those picks will just get eaten with an academy bid anyway. Hold Hill, make em squirm

 

[jusjoshin]

12 and next years first is my guess. Probably a late pick going back the saints way.

Could be a massive win for us if the Henry bid is after 12.

 

[wayToGo_]

Pick #6 is better if the player you get there is better than getting two players in the #12 - #22 range.

In this draft I would prefer two players (plus the player we get at #7).

People are worrying way too much about the Henry bid.

 

[Fat Nyfe]

It really isn't

Seems alright to me, wouldn't 12+18 mean we can get Henry + another first rounder? That's about equal to 6 or better.

I think Bell will ask for more though.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

12 and next years first is my guess. Probably a late pick going back the saints way.

Could be a massive win for us if the Henry bid is after 12.

Zero chance.

 

[Taylor]

That's where I strongly disagree.
I think the opportunity for Freo to get one extra player (<#30 draft pick equivalent) is worth more to Freo when we have to replace 8 players on our list.
My biggest worry in 2019 is how Freo are going to replace 8 players ... hence #12 & #18 is worth considerably more to me than #6.

Don't worry, I respect and understand your position on this.

I'd just prefer;
#2, #4, #6, #8, #60, #62, #64 and #66

over

#20, #21, #22, #23, #24, #25, #26 and #27

I'd rather four potential A-grade talents and four speculative later picks over eight less potential players but higher rated.

We don't have eight spots in our team but I think we can fit four more elite talents, if we were building a list from nothing then bolstering our depth with 2nd round picks is handy, I don't think we need to do that. I think our depth is already in our best 22 and forged with years of finding them from later picks, these to be dislodged by elite talent.

 

[Dockernut]

I like this Cam Luke.

 

[FreoRicci]

St Kilda done a pick swap with GWS. Out: pick 6 and 59
In: pick 12 and 18.
I hope we tell St Kilda to **** off. Honestly.

 

[dont bowl there]

Pick #6 is better if the player you get there is better than getting two players in the #12 - #22 range.

In this draft I would prefer two players (plus the player we get at #7).

People are worrying way too much about the Henry bid.

Yeah why do it right when you can just not worry.

 

[wild side]

Zero chance.

You bankrupted fellas obviously don't want him enough.
He's contracted, required, wanted, gets on well with the playing group, won our B&F two seasons ago.
We won't let him go without a remarkable deal for us!!

 

[yyou]

Melbourne 6 + 40 goes to GWS for their 3 +61 (allows GWS to get a player before Green bid)

Freo B Hill + 83 goes to SK 12 + 18 + future 3rd

Freo 18 + 26 + Langdon goes to Melbourne for 6 and 42

Upshot Melbourne have 18, 26, 40 + Langdon
StK have B Hill + 83
GWS have 3 + 61
Freo have 6, 12, 42 + future 3rd from SK

We go to the draft with 6, 7, 12, 42

 

[dont bowl there]

Another smart move by the Giants where as we "shouldn't worry" about getting ahead of our bid.

 

[Tbonefreo]

Henry will be a gun.

 

[Jake_Pizzuto]

St Kilda done a pick swap with GWS. Out: pick 6 and 59
In: pick 12 and 18.
I hope we tell St Kilda to fu** off. Honestly.

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water just yet (I think that's how you use that?). It could be a better deal for us if they combine 12 with a future first or something like that

 

[Jake_Pizzuto]

Another smart move by the Giants where as we "shouldn't worry" about getting ahead of our bid.

They aren't ahead of their bid yet. Greene will likely be before pick 6

 

[FreoRicci]

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water just yet (I think that's how you use that?). It could be a better deal for us if they combine 12 with a future first or something like that

Which won’t happen. Saints trying to low ball us, ala West coast style packaging multiple first round picks not in the top 10.

 

[dont bowl there]

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water just yet (I think that's how you use that?). It could be a better deal for us if they combine 12 with a future first or something like that

They won't be trading a future first when they have King on their mind already.

 

[dont bowl there]

They aren't ahead of their bid yet. Greene will likely be before pick 6

You know they will though, they do it better than most.

 

[PurpleEyes]

Don't worry, I respect and understand your position on this.

I'd just prefer;
#2, #4, #6, #8, #60, #62, #64 and #66

over

#20, #21, #22, #23, #24, #25, #26 and #27

I'd rather four potential A-grade talents and four speculative later picks over eight less potential players but higher rated.

We don't have eight spots in our team but I think we can fit four more elite talents, if we were building a list from nothing then bolstering our depth with 2nd round picks is handy, I don't think we need to do that. I think our depth is already in our best 22 and forged with years of finding them from later picks, these to be dislodged by elite talent.

You just compared 8 picks of higher value (8,157 points) to 8 picks of lower value (6,423). So of course I would also choose option A given those two, but that's not what I'm arguing.
Picks 12 & 18 are worth more points than 6 and you get the added bonus of 1 extra pick/player.

 

[dont bowl there]

You just compared 8 picks of higher value (8,157 points) to 8 picks of lower value (6,423). So of course I would also choose option A given those two, but that's not what I'm arguing.
Picks 12 & 18 are worth more points than 6 and you get the added bonus of 1 extra pick/player.

Why do you think GWS did this trade?

 

[FreoRicci]

No Hill to st Kilda this year then.
Pick 12 and they probably will put in a second rounder.
They want King next season, which they will keep their first rounder for next year. Bell probably said pick 6 or GTFO