Opinion 2019 Non Crows - Watts love got to do with it? #pick1herewecome

[Thegibbsgamble]

Yeh, rubbish, Liam made a poor choice that benefited the family’s moment at the expense of the greater community good. Had he continued his career there’d have been much more resources to have been able to benefit his family. You literally have NFI and you’re actually a racist.

Yet Andrew Mcleod also believes family is more important. He is pretty big on it. Jurrah can't help who is his family.

Eddy Betts was lucky to survive his time in Melbourne away from family. Gambling drinking and more. Wasted a lot of money. Stifled his career. He hasn't looked back since coming home and closer to family.

Jurrahs situation is tragic. Conversely look what the Essendon family did to ryder. Risked the future of his children by pumping him full of horse drugs and dementia drugs solely for profit. Solely because of the same toxic culture Australian cricket is in after the bogan cheats Warner and Smith ruined cricket over.

 

[Elite Crow]

Yet Andrew Mcleod also believes family is more important. He is pretty big on it. Jurrah can't help who is his family.

Eddy Betts was lucky to survive his time in Melbourne away from family. Gambling drinking and more. Wasted a lot of money. Stifled his career. He hasn't looked back since coming home and closer to family.

Jurrahs situation is tragic. Conversely look what the Essendon family did to ryder. Risked the future of his children by pumping him full of horse drugs and dementia drugs solely for profit. Solely because of the same toxic culture Australian cricket is in after the bogan cheats Warner and Smith ruined cricket over.

Did Essendon only give Ryder those drugs?

 

[kirky]

Conversely look what the Essendon family did to ryder. Risked the future of his children by pumping him full of horse drugs and dementia drugs solely for profit..

What Ryder doesn’t have a brain and the ability to think for himself? Sorry, you got to do better than that. There is a thing called personal responsibility - to yourself and your family. He neglected his role.

If someone is going to give something to take, you ask questions. What are the risks, what is it?

 

[Peter Doherty]

Liam Jurrah can be seen around Alice wearing his Dayne Zorko t-shirt.

 

[1970crow]

Care to explain the difference?

In your explanation can you put it in the context of the relationship the AFL player has with the agent/manager and the way the dynamic works within the confines of that relationship that defines it as agency rather than management.

Please and thankyou.

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Firstly, even if player agents were required to be accredited wealth managers, it wouldn't mean that they're actually engaged by the player in that role. Secondly, do you think player agents are required to be accredited wealth managers? Do you go to your rental property manager for financial advice because they're an agent of yours? I'm actually intrigued as to where the term 'player manager' actually comes from. The AFL accredits player agents, there's no mention of them accrediting player managers or wealth managers. I think sometimes people just assume that because I guy is getting a % of a players contract that they're also discussing where to invest the proceeds of the contract they just helped negotiate.

 

[1970crow]

Yet Andrew Mcleod also believes family is more important. He is pretty big on it. Jurrah can't help who is his family.

Eddy Betts was lucky to survive his time in Melbourne away from family. Gambling drinking and more. Wasted a lot of money. Stifled his career. He hasn't looked back since coming home and closer to family.

Jurrahs situation is tragic. Conversely look what the Essendon family did to ryder. Risked the future of his children by pumping him full of horse drugs and dementia drugs solely for profit. Solely because of the same toxic culture Australian cricket is in after the bogan cheats Warner and Smith ruined cricket over.

Are you serious???? You think Ryder was the only player given those drugs? How the hell is that relevant to the conversation. Here's a tip, not all families are as supportive as the McLeods are. This is the exact reason that an Aboriginal PA of some description can be really helpful to those players who don't have a McLeod type family. Any other points of mine that you want to argue for me.

 

[Elite Crow]

Are you serious???? You think Ryder was the only player given those drugs? How the hell is that relevant to the conversation. Here's a tip, not all families are as supportive as the McLeods are. This is the exact reason that an Aboriginal PA of some description can be really helpful to those players who don't have a McLeod type family. Any other points of mine that you want to argue for me.

How do we get rid of this nutjob?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

What Ryder doesn’t have a brain and the ability to think for himself? Sorry, you got to do better than that. There is a thing called personal responsibility - to yourself and your family. He neglected his role.

If someone is going to give something to take, you ask questions. What are the risks, what is it?

Hence I have respect for Zaharkis who used his own brain to say no.

 

[treeman]

Yet Andrew Mcleod also believes family is more important. He is pretty big on it. Jurrah can't help who is his family.

Eddy Betts was lucky to survive his time in Melbourne away from family. Gambling drinking and more. Wasted a lot of money. Stifled his career. He hasn't looked back since coming home and closer to family.

Jurrahs situation is tragic. Conversely look what the Essendon family did to ryder. Risked the future of his children by pumping him full of horse drugs and dementia drugs solely for profit. Solely because of the same toxic culture Australian cricket is in after the bogan cheats Warner and Smith ruined cricket over.

Back from Italy already Rucci?

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[treeman]

Back from Italy already Rucci?

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Just had a look and it looks like Gibbs gamble has been posting consistently over a month.

Therefore I take back what I said.

Rucci must be taking the time to post in Italy.

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[Geoffa32]

Firstly, even if player agents were required to be accredited wealth managers, it wouldn't mean that they're actually engaged by the player in that role. Secondly, do you think player agents are required to be accredited wealth managers? Do you go to your rental property manager for financial advice because they're an agent of yours? I'm actually intrigued as to where the term 'player manager' actually comes from. The AFL accredits player agents, there's no mention of them accrediting player managers or wealth managers. I think sometimes people just assume that because I guy is getting a % of a players contract that they're also discussing where to invest the proceeds of the contract they just helped negotiate.

Yeah I assumed AFL player mangers are more than agents.

When you look it up they are technically referred to as agents.


However if an AFL player is not in touch with wealth management professionals they are stupid. Hopefully that kind of advice is given to them as part of the education they receive when first drafted and through their careers.

It is also probably wise that such services are probabaly sourced independently of clubs as well.

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[Doctor B]

Firstly, even if player agents were required to be accredited wealth managers, it wouldn't mean that they're actually engaged by the player in that role. Secondly, do you think player agents are required to be accredited wealth managers? Do you go to your rental property manager for financial advice because they're an agent of yours? I'm actually intrigued as to where the term 'player manager' actually comes from. The AFL accredits player agents, there's no mention of them accrediting player managers or wealth managers. I think sometimes people just assume that because I guy is getting a % of a players contract that they're also discussing where to invest the proceeds of the contract they just helped negotiate.

From a smaller Adelaide based sporting managers website as to what services he provides.

www.deliversports.com.au/what_we_deliver/

AT DSM, WE DELIVER:

• Player contract and sponsorship and endorsement negotiation
• Up-to-date management know-how and accreditation with the AFLPA (AFL Players Association), the FFA (Football Federation Australia), and the ACA (Australian Cricketers Association)
• Access to the best advice in taxation, business and financial planning
• Feedback from recruiters and coaches via a strong sports network
• Annual goal setting sessions with a life-beyond-sport focus
• A personalised service that extends to partners and parents
• Professional elite athlete mentoring

 

[Bender20]

How does Wanganeen make a living now?

Not sure about living but he's doing indigenous painting. I believe Shane Radbone has sponsored him possibly through exhibitions.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

Hence I have respect for Zaharkis who used his own brain to say no.

Yet he stayed at the club and ryder left.


He may have guts but has no morals.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

Not sure about living but he's doing indigenous painting. I believe Shane Radbone has sponsored him possibly through exhibitions.

Also works in the media. Looks like his mentor is kane kornes.

 

[1970crow]

From a smaller Adelaide based sporting managers website as to what services he provides.

www.deliversports.com.au/what_we_deliver/

AT DSM, WE DELIVER:

• Player contract and sponsorship and endorsement negotiation
• Up-to-date management know-how and accreditation with the AFLPA (AFL Players Association), the FFA (Football Federation Australia), and the ACA (Australian Cricketers Association)
• Access to the best advice in taxation, business and financial planning
• Feedback from recruiters and coaches via a strong sports network
• Annual goal setting sessions with a life-beyond-sport focus
• A personalised service that extends to partners and parents
• Professional elite athlete mentoring

"Access to" pretty much states that they're not performing the services themselves. They'd be handing over the player to another provider for a commission on that provider's earnings.

 

[Doctor B]

"Access to" pretty much states that they're not performing the services themselves. They'd be handing over the player to another provider for a commission on that provider's earnings.

Absolutely. He's a player manager not a financial planner.

 

[1970crow]

Absolutely. He's a player manager not a financial planner.

Player agent, not manager.

 

[Peter Doherty]

Yet he stayed at the club and ryder left.


He may have guts but has no morals.

Always trying to big up your Port Power boys.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Zaharakis was scared of needles wasn't he?

Not taking an honourable stance or anything like that

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Zaharakis was scared of needles wasn't he?

Not taking an honourable stance or anything like that

No, he wasn't scared of needles.

 

[1970crow]

Zaharakis was scared of needles wasn't he?

Not taking an honourable stance or anything like that

I don't think the reasoning was ever going to be, "seemed dodgy, didn't much like that Dank bloke". With that off the table there's not much left that's plausible.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

He stayed at the club. He's like the one kid who was to scared to go in and steal lollies from the corner shop with his mates. But made sure he ate his share when they all got back to the park.

 

[deeztreez]

At Port Adelaide, Michael Voss has moved into Nicks' vacated senior assistant post as 2004 premiership players Jarrad Schofield (midfield) and Brett Montgomery (defence) return.
Montgomery, who had two years out of the AFL system after a relationship breakdown with Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge, has stood out with his diligence and level of detail.

Anyone remember hearing what the Montgomery/Beveridge dispute was about?

 

[deeztreez]

Am I the only one that missed Rutten has moved from Tigers to Bombers as ‘key position’ coach?