Resource 2020 Draft Watch (picks 1, 9, 20, 30, 45, 50, 60, 74) - updated R17 15/9/20

[Deaneus!]

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[Golumless]

I think we can put to bed any notion of pick 2 compo for Crouch.

He's nowhere near worth that.

It would be end of first round so after all the academy picks something in the 20s.

Then you match the deal and force a trade. Even if it gets us a 2021 first.

Mind you if we do start making noise about a priority pick, or keep looking so far off the pace, the AFL may adjust their magic beans formula to give us pick 3.

They do have one goal in mind - no one is uncompetitive and we're as uncompetitive as it gets.

 

[GrommoT]

I don't think tall forwards are as much of a problem. We've got two pieces who have had a promising start to their career in Fogarty and McAsey. Could probably go for Thillhorpe as a third but we may have already invested a lot of collateral there.

This year the question is midfield and small forwards.

We need insurance in case McAsey (and Worrell) get the go home blues.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

I don't think tall forwards are as much of a problem. We've got two pieces who have had a promising start to their career in Fogarty and McAsey. Could probably go for Thillhorpe as a third but we may have already invested a lot of collateral there.

This year the question is midfield and small forwards.

I’d go Baldwin aswel
Would like to see Fog build his tank and unleash him in the midfield

 

[Golumless]

We need insurance in case McAsey (and Worrell) get the go home blues.

If we're proactive - we keep them.

If we're reactive we'll get forced into a situation where we are either staring down an 800k per year contract or a trade.

I would be very comfortable if Adelaide offered 500k/5yr deal to McAsey tomorrow.

 

[Golumless]

I’d go Baldwin aswel
Would like to see Fog build his tank and unleash him in the midfield

Hasn't he had two knee recos?

He might be obtainable in the rookie draft. If so, don't lose much.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Hasn't he had two knee recos?

He might be obtainable in the rookie draft. If so, don't lose much.

He has but he’s only young
Top 10 talent wise I believe Mutineer thoughts on that ?

If can get him with pick 20 or 30 it’s still a good get

Just like Kemp in last years draft

 

[GrommoT]

If we're proactive - we keep them.

If we're reactive we'll get forced into a situation where we are either staring down an 800k per year contract or a trade.

I would be very comfortable if Adelaide offered 500k/5yr deal to McAsey tomorrow.

Yeah, if they can be swayed by $$$ to stay, all good and he might be our needed star KPD going forward while Fog and Tilly are our KPFs.

 

[xchadders]

When we get the spoon, can we organise for every member to post an actual wooden spoon to the club? I’d like to see 50,000 spoons turn up in the post. For giggles.

 

[Golumless]

Yeah, if they can be swayed by $$$ to stay, all good and he might be our needed star KPD going forward while Fog and Tilly are our KPFs.

I reckon only Dangerfield was the only player to leave for a genuine wish to go home.

The trick is to be proactive and with us continously shedding cap space, there is no reason not to be.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

I reckon only Dangerfield was the only player to leave for a genuine wish to go home.

The trick is to be proactive and with us continously shedding cap space, there is no reason not to be.

Stenglien did for home reasons

Was a captain in waiting was Stinga
We got Scott Thompson from that deal so not all bad

 

[GrommoT]

I reckon only Dangerfield was the only player to leave for a genuine wish to go home.

The trick is to be proactive and with us continously shedding cap space, there is no reason not to be.

I wonder if it would work if we could a payment structure where we have a few mega contracts for players that are elite and must keep, several "floating bonus" prize amounts to be won by the best performed of the remaining players who are on a more typical payment sliding scale.

 

[GreyCrow]

I am another that has concerns over Holland - unfortunately I dont think we will get any sense of where he is due to no football in Vic

I would prefer to target Phillips as our mid

 

[GreyCrow]

I wonder if it would work if we could a payment structure where we have a few mega contracts for players that are elite and must keep, several "floating bonus" prize amounts to be won by the best performed of the remaining players who are on a more typical payment sliding scale.

Isnt that the Richmond model?

David Mackay - Base Rate $250k - with incentives for any games with possession count over 20. Money in the bank for the Crows
Rory Laird - Base rate $300k - with dollars floating in balloons 10m off the ground if he hits them

 

[Viva la Mattner]

I am another that has concerns over Holland - unfortunately I dont think we will get any sense of where he is due to no football in Vic

I would prefer to target Phillips as our mid

Hollands has size which we lack

 

[GrommoT]

Isnt that the Richmond model?
David Mackay - Base Rate $250k - with incentives for any games with possession count over 20. Money in the bank for the Crows

Don't know.

Rory Laird - Base rate $300k - with dollars floating in balloons 10m off the ground if he hits them

 

[Big Gazoongas]

In that case keep him and trade Matt

Im not sure the value in keeping any of them. Sure we have invested time and money but reality is they are not living up to expectations.

Time to cut your loses and move on. Time for courageous decisions.

Mind you they aren't the only 2.

Ive said before this list needs to turn over the senior players over the next 2 years.

 

[mattymac]

Then you match the deal and force a trade. Even if it gets us a 2021 first.

Mind you if we do start making noise about a priority pick, or keep looking so far off the pace, the AFL may adjust their magic beans formula to give us pick 3.

They do have one goal in mind - no one is uncompetitive and we're as uncompetitive as it gets.

They've got no reason to grow the game in SA.

They won't do us any favours.

 

[Golumless]

They've got no reason to grow the game in SA.

They won't do us any favours.

They do however have a lot of reasons to make sure the game is competitive (arguably in the billions with TV rights deals). Any team being uncompetitive as we are being at the moment is panic stations for the AFL, no matter the financial stability and location.

Especially is said uncompetitive team was about to lose their best midfielder...

 

[mattymac]

They do however have a lot of reasons to make sure the game is competitive (arguably in the billions with TV rights deals). Any team being uncompetitive as we are being at the moment is panic stations for the AFL, no matter the financial stability and location.

Especially is said uncompetitive team was about to lose their best midfielder...

I think that applies more to Vic teams and expansion projects.

They won't be too fussed at us embarrassing ourselves for a few years.

Crows fans will still buy memberships.

 

[Golumless]

I think that applies more to Vic teams and expansion projects.

They won't be too fussed at us embarrassing ourselves for a few years.

Crows fans will still buy memberships.

What pushed the Adelaide Oval deal is that wasn't happening. We were struggling and numbers were beginning to dip in the 30k range (on top of Port being near broke). Like all fan bases, we won't maintain membership numbers.

TV rights is all the AFL care about and any team which impacts that bottom dollar is a problem for them. If we remain uncompetitive, we potentially do cause that number to drop.

 

[Mutineer]

I am another that has concerns over Holland - unfortunately I dont think we will get any sense of where he is due to no football in Vic

I would prefer to target Phillips as our mid

If the comment's specific to Hollands' knee we would have to go on our medical team's assessment of the original injury and his recovery progress at the time of the draft because there is no way he would have played any football given the timeline and highly unlikely he'd be ready for any physical testing at the Draft Combine even if it goes ahead?

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

What pushed the Adelaide Oval deal is that wasn't happening. We were struggling and numbers were beginning to dip in the 30k range (on top of Port being near broke). Like all fan bases, we won't maintain membership numbers.

TV rights is all the AFL care about and any team which impacts that bottom dollar is a problem for them. If we remain uncompetitive, we potentially do cause that number to drop.

TV numbers for SA teams are largely irrelevant

 

[19thcrow]

Trade out - Matt Crouch, Laird, Talia(only a good deal for him). All 3 have value Talia would be nearing the end before we're competitive again.

Brad Crouch is someone I'd keep unless the compo is pick 2 which isn't likely.

Trade in - Caldwell for Laird this would be beneficial for both teams. Hately is also of interest for a 2nd round pick. Laird and pick 20 for Caldwell and Hately.

Geelong who are in contention could be a suitor for both Matt Crouch and Talia. They also have the currency to get it done. Talia does not go cheap would expect a 1st plus steak knives for him to start the conversation. M.Crouch and Talia for 2 x 1st round picks might just get this done.

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[GreyCrow]

If the comment's specific to Hollands' knee we would have to go on our medical team's assessment of the original injury and his recovery progress at the time of the draft because there is no way he would have played any football given the timeline and highly unlikely he'd be ready for any physical testing at the Draft Combine even if it goes ahead?

Yes its about his knee.

And yes I would have concerns over our medical assessments or our interpretation of these assessments. 2 knee recos is 1 too far for me for a midfielder

 

[Golumless]

TV numbers for SA teams are largely irrelevant

Like everything, they go down when a team is noncompetitive, even in their home state.