List Mgmt. 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread

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This Part 2 Continued from Part 1: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-list-management-free-agency-trade-thread.1241035/ What type of players does our list need? Pace, Skill, Class and and goal threat. A winger, forward flank and forward pocket are the 3 positions that we need, plus...

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[Carnthedockers]

You have to wonder if we could get Sydney’s pick 3. Give them our 11, pick for blakely and hogan..

 

[Purpellian Anchor]

How does the risk factor stack up in recruiting a tall that becomes a success?

193cm and above players that were drafted in the top ten picks since 2013 as a sample with games played.

2013 - Boyd 61, Bontempelli 145
2014 - McCartin 38, Marchbank 48, Wright 66, Moore 89
2015 - Weitering 93, Schache 56, Weideman 44
2016 - Logue 28
2017 - Naughton 53
2018 - Lukosius 38, M King 18, B King 31, Blakey 38 (edit)
2019 - Jackson 6

 

[Taylor]

There is zero guarantee that a player you draft is even as good as one of the players you traded away to pick him up.

 

[DragoDelph]

Hogan, Blakely, Schultz, Bewley, Crowden, Giro and 10 for 1?

We’d obviously get later picks back for academy prospects. Hence the “and change”
Just a way to get there without giving up a b22 player

 

[Carnthedockers]

Just saw some of the boys in bicton. Seems they've stayed in WA. Serong, giro, valente, switta

 

[Johnny Dalmas]

Hogan, Blakely, Schultz, Bewley, Crowden, Giro and 10 for 1?

At least we would stop talking about that time we traded #1 for Croad

 

[Snake_Baker]

There's talk North have put an offer in front of him that we're unlikely to match.

So there is some mail on this?

I figured Freo would have had him in their future plans.

 

[Ge3ks]

GWS interest in Hogan?

Sam Edmund's trade update on Smith, De Goey, Hogan and the "messy" Treloar situation

We have all the latest on some of the big names.

www.sen.com.au

 

[tonygeeks]

So there is some mail on this?

I figured Freo would have had him in their future plans.

Has got better with each year and had a pretty big jump last year in production

Who’s to say his ceiling is not a Papley type

Almost a certainty to end up with you guys I’d say going by our trade history and vision impaired rating of our own players


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[wayToGo_]

Has got better with each year and had a pretty big jump last year in production

Who’s to say his ceiling is not a Papley type

Almost a certainty to end up with you guys I’d say going by our trade history and vision impaired rating of our own players

That's a pretty big jump to Papley. He's kicked more than 24 goals in all 5 seasons he has played.

Schultz has been pretty good this year but he's amongst a bunch of small players on our list in competition for a spot in the 22. This time next year I'm expecting quite a few delistings of sub 6' players - as most of them come out of contract then.

I'd keep him on for another year but I wouldn't be offering more than one year personally. Don't think we should compete on terms with a club that could offer more years/money like North but with far less chance of playing finals over the coming years. If he stays for less coin/contract length (for one year) then I'd back him in to improve again and assuming he does we could then throw a much better contract at him at the end of next season.

 

[Dockernut]

The West Australian are saying that Jordan Clark

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Jordan Clark

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

is going to be staying with the cats

Happy days. Don’t reckon he would have added much to our squad TBH.

 

[bone2468]

Happy days. Don’t reckon he would have added much to our squad TBH.

Would rather give Valente a game

 

[tonygeeks]

That's a pretty big jump to Papley. He's kicked more than 24 goals in all 5 seasons he has played.

Schultz has been pretty good this year but he's amongst a bunch of small players on our list in competition for a spot in the 22. This time next year I'm expecting quite a few delistings of sub 6' players - as most of them come out of contract then.

I'd keep him on for another year but I wouldn't be offering more than one year personally. Don't think we should compete on terms with a club that could offer more years/money like North but with far less chance of playing finals over the coming years. If he stays for less coin/contract length (for one year) then I'd back him in to improve again and assuming he does we could then throw a much better contract at him at the end of next season.

Papley was in a much better side and still never really got his due for a few years because of that rookie list stink


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[eastfreo75]

??????

Josh Kennedy is the last one I can think of, and he wasn't exactly killing it.

Graham Polak

Graham Polak

Age

40

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.8

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

.

 

[malpaso]

I don’t think you need to include Cox in that though...
1. Sydney get JH, CB and pick 10. Give pick 4 (plus change either way)
2. Norf get pick 4 plus Schultz and Bewley. Give pick 2 (plus change either way?)
3. (Sorry joao) Adelaide get Crowden, Giro and pick 2. Give pick one (plus change)

Then we can use next years first to try get another pick inside this draft.

That said, if we can’t get LMcD, I’m really keen on Hollands

Hahaha, we replace 6 players with an 18 year old? No thanks.

 

[Pussinbootz]

GWS interest in Hogan?

Sam Edmund's trade update on Smith, De Goey, Hogan and the "messy" Treloar situation

We have all the latest on some of the big names.

www.sen.com.au

A good outcome would be Hogan & 28 for one of the teen picks GWS gets for Cameron. Hopefully will allow us to take 2 before the NGA guys.

 

[DragoDelph]

Hahaha, we replace 6 players with an 18 year old? No thanks.

Do Ithink it will happen? No
Do I like it? No
People were asking how to get Logan, unfortunately, that’s how you do it.
Personally would prefer to stay at 3/4 and hope we can snag Holland’s or DGB

 

[Wilksyy]

hope we can snag Holland’s

If we somehow got Holland’s I would be jumping for joy.

 

[Purpellian Anchor]

There is zero guarantee that a player you draft is even as good as one of the players you traded away to pick him up.

lol. had to look at this a bit ... a degree of value more than zero guarantee. I'd like to see that


Seriously though, to draft McDonald, or trade in Brown, or keep Hogan....the obvious without risk is to keep what you have and know even with no guarantee on return....think that is kinda what what you meant Taylor ?

 

[Ge3ks]

AFL trade news: New club enters race for "gettable" Dockers forward Jesse Hogan

The out-of-favour Fremantle forward has a new suitor.

www.zerohanger.com

GWS interest in Hogan may be as a plan B if they can't get Tom McDonald

25

Tom Mcdonald

Age

32

Ht

195cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

261.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.6

1star

MG

135.6

2star

D

13.8

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

from Melbourne.

 

[Tbonefreo]

lol. had to look at this a bit ... a degree of value more than zero guarantee. I'd like to see that


Seriously though, to draft McDonald, or trade in Brown, or keep Hogan....the obvious without risk is to keep what you have and know even with no guarantee on return....think that is kinda what what you meant Taylor ?

My head hurts

 

[bone2468]

AFL trade news: New club enters race for "gettable" Dockers forward Jesse Hogan

The out-of-favour Fremantle forward has a new suitor.

www.zerohanger.com

GWS interest in Hogan may be as a plan B if they can't get Tom McDonald

25

Tom Mcdonald

Age

32

Ht

195cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

261.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.6

1star

MG

135.6

2star

D

13.8

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

from Melbourne.

Give us Sam Taylor

15

Sam Taylor

Age

25

Ht

198cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

130.5

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.5

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

60.8

1star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.8

5star

MG

110.8

2star

and a 2nd

 

[Rob]

AFL trade news: New club enters race for "gettable" Dockers forward Jesse Hogan

The out-of-favour Fremantle forward has a new suitor.

www.zerohanger.com

GWS interest in Hogan may be as a plan B if they can't get Tom McDonald

25

Tom Mcdonald

Age

32

Ht

195cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

261.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.6

1star

MG

135.6

2star

D

13.8

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

from Melbourne.

One thing GWS will have plenty of this year is decent draft picks.

 

[Demons09]

Give us Sam Taylor

15

Sam Taylor

Age

25

Ht

198cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

130.5

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.5

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

60.8

1star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.8

5star

MG

110.8

2star

and a 2nd

So we’re replacing a fwd with a defender which we have plenty of.

 

[bone2468]

So we’re replacing a fwd with a defender which we have plenty of.

Think of Aaron Naughton

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Aaron Naughton

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

4.9

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

6.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.3

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

0.8

1star

G

0.5

4star

D

12.8

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.0

1star

drafted as a defender and is now killing it as a forward Or we switch Cox back to forward and Taylor can take the 3rd tall defender