Training 2020 Pre Season Training

[Jeffcrowe]

IIRC wasn't it you that raised this point a few weeks back ?

I think so

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Different roles , Mcasey won’t be able to play on slippery mediums

So who can ? ....Brown

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Different roles , Mcasey won’t be able to play on slippery mediums

Our like-for-exact-carbon-copy-like-with-no-wriggle-room policy is another remnant of the old regime. Will be interesting to see if Nicks subscribes to it too

Doedee back too balances our defence nicely.

 

[BRL121]

Don’t really care no good looking in the rear view mirror

Well, you're not right for this board then: looking into the rear view mirror is their main raison d'etre.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

That's a good question what was the worst trade ever by the crows

Modra
Danger
Johnson
Rehn
Mattner

Not sure a 28 year old player that has played 20 games competes with those mentioned, in fact Henderson may have been a greater loss hes doing pretty well at the hawks

Henderson was never going to get games ahead of D Mackay at the crows so was never going to be a loss unfortunately

 

[crows dude]

Our like-for-exact-carbon-copy-like-with-no-wriggle-room policy is another remnant of the old regime. Will be interesting to see if Nicks subscribes to it too

Doedee back too balances our defence nicely.

Yep doesnt always need to be like for like. Although there would be a need for shuffling the deck chairs which is why players need versatility to plan a variety of roles.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Our like-for-exact-carbon-copy-like-with-no-wriggle-room policy is another remnant of the old regime. Will be interesting to see if Nicks subscribes to it too

Doedee back too balances our defence nicely.

Yep but Mcasey is a real pure key defender with speed/ agility mix not dissimilar to Talia

thankfully he’s got some weapons that Talia doesn’t have

 

[Jeffcrowe]

So who can ? ....Brown

Doedee can play tall or small , Kelly is a clear first 22 at this stage

brown ... good player and takes the small forwards , not sure Otherwise

 

[marty36]

Yep but Mcasey is a real pure key defender with speed/ agility mix not dissimilar to Talia

thankfully he’s got some weapons that Talia doesn’t have

Will win a few more AA's than talia then do you think?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Will win a few more AA's than talia then do you think?

Umm not necessarily as Talia is very good at what he does as a shutdown tall defender

but he’d be in the mix to be at least as decorated as Talia by end of career

 

[marty36]

Umm not necessarily as Talia is very good at what he does as a shutdown tall defender

but he’d be in the mix to be at least as decorated as Talia by end of career

Then he will be an enormous win, I unfortunately will wait see, expectation is handed out too easily as is evident with how many draftees fail, what percentage of all draftees make 200 AFL games do you think? Then the hail mary 300 games, Melbourne have 1 player in the 100 plus history of the club to get to 300 games

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Then he will be an enormous win, I unfortunately will wait see, expectation is handed out too easily as is evident with how many draftees fail, what percentage of all draftees make 200 AFL games do you think? Then the hail mary 300 games, Melbourne have 1 player in the 100 plus history of the club to get to 300 games

I’m expecting a bit having watched him play and I’m sure the club expects him to be a fair player given we took him at pick 6 and don’t have those high picks very often

 

[ad victoriam]

Ive seen the highlights of Mcasey looks a prospect but if the crows don't put him on a course of winstrol he will be a few years getting a bit stronger he will get snapped in half in the AFL

Don't know about that he is currently 91kg, You may have mixed him up with Worrel.

 

[marty36]

Don't know about that he is currently 91kg, You may have mixed him up with Worrel.

At his height 91 kilo is a stick man

 

[Elite Crow]

Yep, I was posturing back then. Like anytime someone has said "send them to the PSad" and then realised that's just stupid.

We all get very excited during trade discussions. Then the reality sinks in.

If you look back at my posts, you can see multiple times in threads when I've said Keath isn't good one-on-one. That hasn't changed, nor has the fact he was playing Doedee's position, nor has the fact he's 28 coming off a stress fracture and multiple injuries over many years, or the fact WB offered him the $$$ he wanted and seemingly no one else did.

I always thought we were better off trading him. I wanted more as any supporter would and was frustrated, but a 2nd round seems like what the market has set

Oh, and I have Elite Crow blocked for a good reason - he will turn everything into club incompetence, because he's a toxic personality. I don't want to see anything he posts.

You were “posturing”, can you please put a note when you are “posturing” in future as all we see is an apologist changing his tune to support the club.

 

[ad victoriam]

At his height 91 kilo is a stick man

Then what weight would be Ideal for a 197cm kid, say 96kg like Frampton, or 93kg like Keath, or the upper limits of 98kg like Talia,
Did you know Lever's only 92kg,

Like I said he only needs put on 4-6 kg this preseason and he around the mark .

 

[marty36]

Then what weight would be Ideal for a 197cm kid, say 96kg like Frampton, or 93kg like Keath, or the upper limits of 98kg like Talia,
Did you know Lever's only 92kg,

Like I said he only needs put on 4-6 kg this preseason and he around the mark .

4 to 6 kilo of muscle???????????

You obviously don't train, to put on that sort of muscle over pre season, one way to do it and one way only

Tell your kids dont take drugs unless they get you big

 

[ad victoriam]

4 to 6 kilo of muscle???????????

You obviously don't train, to put on that sort of muscle over pre season, one way to do it and one way only

Tell your kids dont take drugs unless they get you big

No I don't train these days but I use too, and when at the top of my game I was in the top 5% in my Field.
Here a hint do not bring a person Kids into any argument.

But It can be done and over the years the AFL is full of 4-6kg gain over a preseason more so in the early years when the dietitians get hold of the kids along with the Fitness staff.
Remember the Shaw days as one example.

 

[marty36]

No I don't train these days but I use too, and when at the top of my game I was in the top 5% in my Field.
Here a hint do not bring a person Kids into any argument.

But It can be done and over the years the AFL is full of 4-6kg gain over a preseason more so in the early years when the dietitians get hold of the kids along with the Fitness staff.
Remember the Shaw days as one example.

If anyone can put on 4 to 6 kilo of muscle even at that age Jay Cutler would be proud and in trouble

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[oldntired]

You're right. We should have given CEY, Keath and Greenwood 4 year deals and signed Sauce up for a couple more

 

[Thetrader15]

Yep doesnt always need to be like for like. Although there would be a need for shuffling the deck chairs which is why players need versatility to plan a variety of roles.

I prefer McAsey and Talia as our KPDs, Doedee as the Kelly role on the mid sized forwards, Brown on the small forward and Laird, Sholl/Milera as the drive of HB.

Of course if there are 3 talls (e.g. ???) then Hartigan can get a game or Doedee plays on one of them

 

[skam85]

No he did not he rarely played a full game as a key defensive defender and when he did he was beaten. most games there was Talia and Hartigan in the side with him.
As for AA maybe he gets the Rance role.

You've completely contradicted yourself there.
If he is getting AA for Rance's role, that is the keyest of defensive defenders (whatever that means)

 

[WeeBlake]

It has been said that Mcasey is not as quick as he looks .....it's his reading & anticipation that makes him look quicker .... Keath had genuine pace

Well that’s a worry because he looks not quick

 

[maxlilly]

That's a good question what was the worst trade ever by the crows

Modra
Danger
Johnson
Rehn
Mattner

Not sure a 28 year old player that has played 20 games competes with those mentioned, in fact Henderson may have been a greater loss hes doing pretty well at the hawks

Gibbs

 

[maxlilly]

I'm hoping we try McAsey up forward