Game Day 2021 Finals Matchday Supernova End of days thread

[Moonwatcher]

I simply can’t and don’t, listen to KG. Age. He’s now a dodderer.

Last time I listened to any football radio was 2006.

 

[ABAB]

Some posters regardless of the side, actually understand football. He is correct.

Butters, Rozee and Drew all look good but they aren't hitting the mark as match winners. Good talent though but none of them are the build a midfield around leaders for the next decade.

Jones will be a star

Bergman and Georgiades are wins but part of me feels like Georgiades is benefiting from Dixon being in the forward line and he is getting the lesser defenders. his test will come.

Duursma, Farrell, Marshall are depth players

need to focus on filling these holes with young talent. they will be forced to rebuild in two years anyway. so problem will be solved.



Duursma

And they overpaid and gave up pick 17 and 10 and 2 second rounders in consecutive years for Ryder and Dixon so they have age gap on their list when they weren't "need" and the missing piece.

 

[hey shorty]

Bergman might be good but he's pretty vanilla.

 

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It was funny hearing people complaining on the radio about Aliir Aliir

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Aliir Aliir

Age

30

Ht

194cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.2

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

240.9

4star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

158.4

3star

supposedly getting "illegally scragged", yet they seem to forget that Port defenders spent the year scragging forwards to allow Aliir to be able to uncontested intercept marks.

#portlogic

 

[jackster83]

Bergman might be good but he's pretty vanilla.

They've got too many back flankers. Should trade Bonner and Burton.

 

[hey shorty]

They've got too many back flankers. Should trade Bonner and Burton.

Who'd want Bonner ?? Played well last night but that's about it.

 

[Bay62]

I simply can’t and don’t, listen to KG. Age. He’s now a dodderer.

Poor KG, he’s been a stalwart forever. When AA first dumped him I was down the Bay oval one night and he was there going around the dining room doing a regular quiz night. Poor bugger can barely read the questions, struggles to get the words into a coherent sentence, and when he reads out the answer says things like “Strewth, never heard of him..” Not his finest moment. Hope he can enjoy his time on radio and enjoy a well earned retirement

 

[Crow_68]

Some posters regardless of the side, actually understand football. He is correct.

Butters, Rozee and Drew all look good but they aren't hitting the mark as match winners. Good talent though but none of them are the build a midfield around leaders for the next decade.

Jones will be a star

Bergman and Georgiades are wins but part of me feels like Georgiades is benefiting from Dixon being in the forward line and he is getting the lesser defenders. his test will come.

Duursma, Farrell, Marshall are depth players

need to focus on filling these holes with young talent. they will be forced to rebuild in two years anyway. so problem will be solved.



Duursma

The trade I struggle to understand is letting Dougal Howard make his way to St Kilda.

To leave Jonas (1.88m), McKenzie (1.91m) and Clurey (1.93m) as your KPDs was a really strange list management decision which is coming back to bite them. They simply cannot handle a forward line with 2-3 talls, particularly one getting good supply.

 

[ABAB]

The trade I struggle to understand is letting Dougal Howard make his way to St Kilda.

To leave Jonas (1.88m), McKenzie (1.91m) and Clurey (1.93m) as your KPDs was a really strange list management decision which is coming back to bite them. They simply cannot handle a forward line with 2-3 talls, particularly one getting good supply.

He didn't want to play for them, apparently no-one every leave Port Power and they never lose players they want to keep.

 

[adelaidecrows]

The trade I struggle to understand is letting Dougal Howard make his way to St Kilda.

To leave Jonas (1.88m), McKenzie (1.91m) and Clurey (1.93m) as your KPDs was a really strange list management decision which is coming back to bite them. They simply cannot handle a forward line with 2-3 talls, particularly one getting good supply.

Its a good point but how many teams have 2-3 good talls in their forward line. The trade I think that has turned from a win to port to a 50/50 is Wingard. If you are clearly trading to push for a premiership, I am not sure the trading of a star player for youth ended up in Ports favour. They could have kept both Howard and Wingard, still got youthful players in their system and completed their other trades.

 

[Doctor B]

Won't happen.

Port underachieved in those years, they've overachieved in the last 2 with everything going their way.

They capitalised on a very soft draw.
17 wins this year, 13 of those came against sides finishing out of the 8, didn't beat a top 4 team.

 

[kirky]

They capitalised on a very soft draw.
17 wins this year, 13 of those came against sides finishing out of the 8, didn't beat a top 4 team.

I’m amazed how this gets missed or refused to talk about. Hopefully their draw next season is a bit more challenging. I’ll suggest they will get to play Geelong and GWS twice - just wait and see.

We somehow won two games against top 4, mind you both were at the start of the year (Rounds 1 & 10) and we didn’t beat anyone else in the top 8.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Hmm… generally you’re right and hope you are but Port 2004 was after choking in the three seasons previous.

far different. Port were one of the best teams over each one of those years and beat everyone. They had one of the best defences in the league, the best midfield and one of the best forward lines. Currently their midfield, doesn't rank and their forward line isn't brilliant. If anything their defence was the pillar that helped them suffocate poor scoring teams.

 

[kirky]

far different. Port were one of the best teams over each one of those years and beat everyone. They had one of the best defences in the league, the best midfield and one of the best forward lines. Currently their midfield, doesn't rank and their forward line isn't brilliant. If anything their defence was the pillar that helped them suffocate poor scoring teams.

More likely poor teams just bombed it in and Allir had a field day. Make him accountable and he will struugle.

 

[Soggy2112]

Its a good point but how many teams have 2-3 good talls in their forward line. The trade I think that has turned from a win to port to a 50/50 is Wingard. If you are clearly trading to push for a premiership, I am not sure the trading of a star player for youth ended up in Ports favour. They could have kept both Howard and Wingard, still got youthful players in their system and completed their other trades.

Most of the top sides do:

Dees: Brown and McDonald with Jackson/Gawn, Weideman as depth

Cats: Hawkins and Cameron, Ratugolea isn’t bad either

Lions: Daniher, Hipwood, McStay

Dogs: Naughton, English, Bruce, Schache and with JUH waiting

Tigers had Riewoldt and Lynch
Eagles had Darling and Kennedy
Hawks had Roughead, Gunston and the resting ruck
Geelong had Hawkins, Mooney, Podsiadly running through

It’s pretty rare for a premiership team to win without 2-3 quality tall forwards, means you’re gonna have to be able to combat that to win a flag.

 

[treeman]

I was listening to AA on the drive home... couldn't believe how poor KG is now. Why on earth is he on the radio?

You reckon he sounds much different now compared to 20 years ago?

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[treeman]

Poor KG, he’s been a stalwart forever. When AA first dumped him I was down the Bay oval one night and he was there going around the dining room doing a regular quiz night. Poor bugger can barely read the questions, struggles to get the words into a coherent sentence, and when he reads out the answer says things like “Strewth, never heard of him..” Not his finest moment. Hope he can enjoy his time on radio and enjoy a well earned retirement

He's like 82 think he prefers to work. Has hardly retired now. Still does 2 mornings a week sometimes more during summer.

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[treeman]

The trade I struggle to understand is letting Dougal Howard make his way to St Kilda.

To leave Jonas (1.88m), McKenzie (1.91m) and Clurey (1.93m) as your KPDs was a really strange list management decision which is coming back to bite them. They simply cannot handle a forward line with 2-3 talls, particularly one getting good supply.

Howard isn't that good though. He makes mistakes like Henderson used to for us.

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[hey shorty]

Howard isn't that good though. He makes mistakes like Henderson used to for us.

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He's been pretty handy for the Saints.

 

[LiquidCrow]

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People don't realise that the only reason Aliir was out of the game was because he was made to be accountable. Unlike some teams, they didn't just blindly kick down the line where Aliir could double team an opponent and run off his. They deliberately kicked to his opponent or over his head to contests behind him. Thats why he was useless. he'd sagged off his opponent all game to be the extra man down the line for the intercept mark but the dogs didn't fall into the trap. A few teams this year did that well where most didn't. Anyone who rated Aliirs cheap marking this year as special really doesn't understand the game and how bad some teams are at moving the ball. A good team has a good defender who can intercept mark, but if anything, Aliir was shown up as as a poor defender, he is just a great intercept mark. Probably why Sydney were happy to trade him.

Melbourne footy media have been gushing over Aliir all year. A days before the game I heard a radio interview with a Port player (Rockcliff, I think), and the same question about accountability was posed - surely someone is going to match up on Aliir or apply a hard tag. The response was something along the lines of hoping he'd match up against a smaller forward, but the conversation quickly turned to the Dog's injuries and playing finals in Perth like it was already a fait accompli.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Mentioned in the Port board how Ken sits in the coaches box staring blankly, doing nothing, surrounded by no one. Every coach has their own style, but what’s with that?? Appears to be no one next to him, he never makes a note or talks on the phone. He looks like rugby coaches who seem to just watch it all play out.

Weird

Is his phone even plugged in?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

He’s big. He’s angry.

That is all.

He has a beard

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I and several others on here were pretty convinced at the 17-minute mark

I think generally speaking we were more confident of Port's ability to come back than Port fans were.

Reading their match day thread, as I've now done 4-5 times, they all pretty much realised within 3 minutes of the game starting that they were doing a Hinkley

On here we expected the early burst wouldn't last and Port would weasel their way back into it

 

[jenny61_99]

So.. whats the feels in adelaide today?.. apart from it being glorious for crows supporters.

Any vibes floating around that there could be some serious fall out from this total capitulation by little brother down the port?..

Surely two prelim failures in a row at home has to have consequences or are they too stubborn to admit they have a problem..

Glorious day up here in sunny Queensland. Currently a balmy 24 (got up to 29 earlier) with a predicted 31 tomorrow. Oh... and Port shat the bed, and the feeling is SO fine!

 

[adelaidecrows]

Melbourne footy media have been gushing over Aliir all year. A days before the game I heard a radio interview with a Port player (Rockcliff, I think), and the same question about accountability was posed - surely someone is going to match up on Aliir or apply a hard tag. The response was something along the lines of hoping he'd match up against a smaller forward, but the conversation quickly turned to the Dog's injuries and playing finals in Perth like it was already a fait accompli.
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The dogs played him well and took the short option often down the line to then easily overlap Aliir was great. Port should have adjusted the game plane as it was evident in the first term. But they didn't and Aliir was crap all day. Ultimately the best way to defeat an intercept marker who leaves their opponent is to kick it to their opponent. Unfortunately too many teams other than the top 5 bomb down the line way to often.