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Rookie list is an oxymoron.
It’s used to make room on the main list for rookies in case they don’t make it through to the rookie draft.
Should it be called the Exit Lounge List? or Last Chance Saloon List? or Out To Pasture List? or the If Only You Were a Couple of Years Younger List? Maybe a Rookie Facilitation List?
I don’t know, anything but a Rookie List.
 

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Rookie list is an oxymoron.
It’s used to make room on the main list for rookies in case they don’t make it through to the rookie draft.
Should it be called the Exit Lounge List? or Last Chance Saloon List? or Out To Pasture List? or the If Only You Were a Couple of Years Younger List? Maybe a Rookie Facilitation List?
I don’t know, anything but a Rookie List.

Stage Exit Lounge.
 
On a draft strategy for Eric Benning, if we get to our 5th pick in the draft and there have been no bids
fo Eric. Then we should trade that pick for the last live pick that lists allow.

It seems at this stage that may be the Roos.
If we do this then we will be assured Benning gets thru for a cat b rookie listing if there are no bids after that.
It also gives us the advantage of being able to select an additional player.
 
Rookie list is an oxymoron.
It’s used to make room on the main list for rookies in case they don’t make it through to the rookie draft.
Should it be called the Exit Lounge List? or Last Chance Saloon List? or Out To Pasture List? or the If Only You Were a Couple of Years Younger List? Maybe a Rookie Facilitation List?
I don’t know, anything but a Rookie List.
It's "and thanks for all the fish" with the "So long" pending.
 
On a draft strategy for Eric Benning, if we get to our 5th pick in the draft and there have been no bids
fo Eric. Then we should trade that pick for the last live pick that lists allow.

It seems at this stage that may be the Roos.
If we do this then we will be assured Benning gets thru for a cat b rookie listing if there are no bids after that.
It also gives us the advantage of being able to select an additional player.
If we have an open list spot then we would have the pick after the Roos anyway.
 
On a draft strategy for Eric Benning, if we get to our 5th pick in the draft and there have been no bids
fo Eric. Then we should trade that pick for the last live pick that lists allow.

It seems at this stage that may be the Roos.
If we do this then we will be assured Benning gets thru for a cat b rookie listing if there are no bids after that.
It also gives us the advantage of being able to select an additional player.

Collingwood and Western Bulldogs will have the rest of their draft hand destroyed by bids for Daicos and Darcy but will probably use future picks to trade back in.

Wouldn’t worry about the draft order outside of the top 25 or so tbh. So much will change after that point the final order compared to the order when the draft starts will be unrecognisable.
 
If we have an open list spot then we would have the pick after the Roos anyway.
True for a matching bid but not the option of another pick. As I understand once we pass,
we cannot take another player unless it’s to match a NGA/FS bid.

What I’m saying is if we swap our 5th pick when it’s due, for say NM’s pick currently 77
(if that’s the last live pick) then if there are no bids on Benning he can be a cat b, + we
can take another pick.
So 5 in the ND + 1 rookie cat b.

There will be players not taken this year who will make it at AFL level.
 
Collingwood and Western Bulldogs will have the rest of their draft hand destroyed by bids for Daicos and Darcy but will probably use future picks to trade back in.

Wouldn’t worry about the draft order outside of the top 25 or so tbh. So much will change after that point the final order compared to the order when the draft starts will be unrecognisable.
Yes they will be, what I’m trying to highlight is getting 5 draft picks in the ND + 1 cat b rookie.

This may well be moot as a bid for Benning could well come earlier than our last.

The draft team surmised that a bid for Henry would come from Carlton, but they did not
have trade agreements in advance. Which is why we payed such a heavy price in matching that bid.
 
Yes they will be, what I’m trying to highlight is getting 5 draft picks in the ND + 1 cat b rookie.

This may well be moot as a bid for Benning could well come earlier than our last.

The draft team surmised that a bid for Henry would come from Carlton, but they did not
have trade agreements in advance. Which is why we payed such a heavy price in matching that bid.

Not sure I’ve heard much about Benning going in the National Draft except on here tbh. I think he’ll be Cat B and we’ll take four picks in the National Draft. We’ll either use Pick 61 and 69 to get a higher pick or we’ll sell one of them to the highest bidder (likely Collingwood or Western Bulldogs)

Benning looked like he was very raw but had potential (good athleticism etc but raw footy ability). I know you draft for the next ten years not next season but he’d be a long way behind the rest of our 2022 Senior List next season. He looks like more of rookie prospect to me.
 
Yes they will be, what I’m trying to highlight is getting 5 draft picks in the ND + 1 cat b rookie.

This may well be moot as a bid for Benning could well come earlier than our last.

The draft team surmised that a bid for Henry would come from Carlton, but they did not
have trade agreements in advance. Which is why we payed such a heavy price in matching that bid.
Pies are likely to have the last pick, once their picks get eaten up, they had about 6 list spots and each of those picks will be added onto the back end of the draft in rounds 5, 6,7,8, etc

The only real way to be sure though is to wait until all teams pass to perform the trade, but by that point we have already passed so it's kind of not possible due to the academy system making the last pick in the draft fluid
 

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It would be quite something to see:

Fremantle trade their pick #69 and round 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10th round picks to Collingwood for a future 4th round selection

Wouldn't work as we only get to take 6 picks to the draft, We are thinking of the opposite, where the pies have 6 list spots after their bids are done, so they get 6 picks at the end of the draft, we then trade for that final pick (giving away our in between picks, 61,69,84) this allows us to get Benning on the list OR guarentee another selection as we are the last pick in the draft meaning we know that Benning will slide to Cat B, allowing us to take a player and then Benning as a Cat B.

Its basically a clever way of avoiding passing on the night but honestly I think we can just use the PSD?

Noone has pointed out a reason why we couldn't do that yet, and PSD is effectively a pick at the end of the draft
 
Wouldn't work as we only get to take 6 picks to the draft, We are thinking of the opposite, where the pies have 6 list spots after their bids are done, so they get 6 picks at the end of the draft, we then trade for that final pick (giving away our in between picks, 61,69,84) this allows us to get Benning on the list OR guarentee another selection as we are the last pick in the draft meaning we know that Benning will slide to Cat B, allowing us to take a player and then Benning as a Cat B.

Its basically a clever way of avoiding passing on the night but honestly I think we can just use the PSD?

Noone has pointed out a reason why we couldn't do that yet, and PSD is effectively a pick at the end of the draft
The draft will keep adding picks at the end for as many rounds as needed to fill the spots once the draft begins.

We can trade everything into next year right as pick #1 goes live and we will end up with picks in the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th rounds - probably all in a row.

They do strip the picks down to list spots at the start of the draft, but the picks will return as we trade out our better selections.
 
Pies are likely to have the last pick, once their picks get eaten up, they had about 6 list spots and each of those picks will be added onto the back end of the draft in rounds 5, 6,7,8, etc

The only real way to be sure though is to wait until all teams pass to perform the trade, but by that point we have already passed so it's kind of not possible due to the academy system making the last pick in the draft fluid
Fox Sports were reporting that Collingwood were looking to use 3-4 picks in this draft.

This probably means nothing as it was reported we plan to use 4, but as it turns out we have
5 places available in the main ND.

If we lose Benning as we have made 5 selections already it will be amateur hour.

This is an opportunity to maximise our draft hand as I see it.

Next year we may have 2 x 1st round picks but not much after that.

This year a good amount of talent will go through to state league levels, next year
we lose a few players (probs at least 5 or 6) with only a few maybe 2 decent picks available.

Lets see what happens.
 
The draft will keep adding picks at the end for as many rounds as needed to fill the spots once the draft begins.

We can trade everything into next year right as pick #1 goes live and we will end up with picks in the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th rounds - probably all in a row.

They do strip the picks down to list spots at the start of the draft, but the picks will return as we trade out our better selections.
Yeah you're right, didn't account for that

Still don't really see Pies bothering trading for our picks seeing as everyone will pass at that point anyway so it kind of nullifies it

The 69 for a future 4th is more likely to be a trade without the need for those extra rounds tacked on

The PSD is our most likely option if Benning lasts til Cat B, we don't need to do anything tricky to get the final pick of the draft, can just pass and then have a pick in the PSD

Unless I am missing something with the PSD but I am like 99% sure its a viable option
 
If we lose Benning as we have made 5 selections already it will be amateur hour.
We won't, we will leave a spot for him and then if he isn't taken we can take a selection in the PSD while Benning goes onto the Cat B list



Can't see us missing Benning unless he is bid at like 20-33ish in the draft, which is highly unlikely
 
Dear Mr Walls

Please don't let Erasmus slide to West Coast.

Please.

Did I say please?

Yours
Everyone in WA.

Rather go hard for Callaghan. He's doesn't care what state he's in and a better player than the WA product. He will make immediate impact at AFL level which for a team like us who hasn't played finals in a long time is huge.
 
We won't, we will leave a spot for him and then if he isn't taken we can take a selection in the PSD while Benning goes onto the Cat B list



Can't see us missing Benning unless he is bid at like 20-33ish in the draft, which is highly unlikely
I think we match it anyway with 20% discount, especially if we don't get Mac Andrew.
 
Rather go hard for Callaghan. He's doesn't care what state he's in and a better player than the WA product. He will make immediate impact at AFL level which for a team like us who hasn't played finals in a long time is huge.
If that trade up cost us 6&8 I would easily prefer Erasmus and Johnson, plus quite a few other possible combinations, and I would back them in to have an immediate impact.
 
Benning isn’t better than a rookie prospect. If someone bids on him we move on and it’s good luck to Benning elsewhere imo.
if he is bid on we match with the next pick don't we? I'm fine with that, unless the club has a specific target they prefer. of course I have minimal confidence in us hitting a target.
 
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