Training 2021 Pre-Season Training Discussion

1970crow · Dec 9, 2020

Mutineer said:
Never change mate...

You disagree there's a lot of competition in that area? You did notice that we still select based on form, we didn't run some kind of rotation system and cycle players through just to get a look at them. If players performed and remained uninjured, they remained in the side.

Early days, but I would think he's got too many with rubber on the road to have to pass over a preseason to be best 22 come round 1. From there, how else do you think he gets a chance? You think we'll just rest a performing player when we're bottom few and chasing wins? Point to a single occasion that we did that this season outside of the the back to back to back short breaks.

1970crow · Dec 9, 2020

Drugs Are Bad Mackay? said:
Rather pointed

It's almost as if he detected the whiff of a minor cultural issue around the place.

1970crow · Dec 9, 2020

ams4crows said:
I love Sholl, look how much more confidence he has now in that video, he's buzzing about the place. This is what happens when you play your talented youth, they get a taste and want more, they want to work harder and be better.

Hamill looks completely different without the long hair, the first time I watched I was like ummm who is that dude?

Was the the Jason Bourne lookalike?

mistylake · Dec 9, 2020

ams4crows said:
Our SANFL coach now

IC

Carmo · Dec 9, 2020

ams4crows said:
I love Sholl, look how much more confidence he has now in that video, he's buzzing about the place. This is what happens when you play your talented youth, they get a taste and want more, they want to work harder and be better.

Hamill looks completely different without the long hair, the first time I watched I was like ummm who is that dude?

DABM will approve. Another hair reform move. Can we jump into finals contention with much hair reform? Only Keaysey really rockin a pretty boy / attention seeking do.

Thetrader15 · Dec 9, 2020

Drugs Are Bad Mackay? said:
His best chance of walking ~~running~~ through the centre square is if he accidentally lines up at the wrong end after breaks

EFA

Legz · Dec 9, 2020

morris086 said:
I think Hamish mentioned Sloane is in Melbourne for the draft, so there may be a chance Mcasey is too.

Fish spotted in the box with Sloane & the draft team.
Would appear to have bulked up a little too!!

WaynesWorld19 · Dec 10, 2020

Really happy with last nights Draft collection ....we lost 6 midfielders after the season, and replaced with 4 tough inside Mids, and added another quality tall

2021 Draft will be about adding midfield Class ...speed

Probably Hartigan is the player position that was not addressed .....so many contested hardball players on the list now

....add Milera into that midfield & exciting times ahead

.......................Riley Thilthorpe
Rory Atkins .... Brayden Cook
Ben Crocker .... James Rowe
Brad Crouch .... Luke Pedlar
Jordan Gallucci
Bryce Gibbs .... Jackson Hately
Kyle Hartigan.... Mitch Hinge
Riley Knight
Myles Poholke... Sam Berry

Shaz2012 · Dec 10, 2020

WaynesWorld19 said:
Really happy with last nights Draft collection ....we lost 6 midfielders after the season, and replaced with 4 tough inside Mids, and added another quality tall

2021 Draft will be about adding midfield Class ...speed

Probably Hartigan is the player position that was not addressed .....so many contested hardball players on the list now ....add Milera into that midfield & exciting times ahead

.......................Riley Thilthorpe
Rory Atkins

32

Rory Atkins

Age
30

Ht

185cm

Wt
82kg

Pos.
Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D
19.9

5

K
12.1

4

HB
7.9

5

M
4.6

4

T
1.9

4

MG
367.4

5

D
9.0

2

K
5.0

2

HB
4.0

3

M
0.3

1

T
2.7

4

MG
147.7

3

D
14.2

4

K
8.8

4

HB
5.4

4

M
4.0

4

T
1.2

3

MG
217.8

4

.... Brayden Cook
Ben Crocker

20

Ben Crocker

Age
27

Ht

188cm

Wt
84kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
9.5

2

K
6.3

2

HB
3.2

3

M
3.7

4

T
1.7

4

G
0.8

4

D
9.3

2

K
7.5

3

HB
1.8

1

M
4.3

4

T
1.5

2

G
0.8

4

D
9.0

3

K
5.0

2

HB
4.0

3

M
2.8

3

T
2.0

4

G
1.0

4

.... James Rowe
Brad Crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age
31

Ht

186cm

Wt
86kg

Pos.
Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D
26.1

5

K
12.1

4

HB
14.0

5

M
2.7

3

T
5.5

5

CL
5.0

5

D
20.3

5

K
11.1

4

HB
9.1

5

M
1.5

2

T
3.9

5

CL
4.6

5

D
21.6

5

K
10.0

4

HB
11.6

5

M
3.4

4

T
4.2

5

CL
2.6

5

.... Luke Pedlar
Jordan Gallucci

7

Jordan Gallucci

Age
26

Ht

182cm

Wt
78kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.8

3

K
9.0

3

HB
2.8

2

M
3.0

3

T
2.1

4

G
0.7

4

No current season stats available

D
12.0

3

K
8.8

4

HB
3.2

3

M
2.2

3

T
2.4

4

G
0.8

4

Bryce Gibbs .... Jackson Hately

6

Jackson Hately

Age
24

Ht

191cm

Wt
85kg

Pos.
Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D
15.3

4

K
8.5

3

HB
6.8

4

M
4.8

5

T
2.6

4

CL
0.7

3

D
14.2

3

K
8.4

3

HB
5.8

3

M
4.8

4

T
1.4

2

CL
0.4

3

D
17.2

5

K
8.6

4

HB
8.6

5

M
5.6

5

T
3.0

5

CL
0.8

3

Kyle Hartigan

28

Kyle Hartigan

Age
33

Ht

194cm

Wt
101kg

Pos.
Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.8

3

K
6.8

3

HB
5.0

4

M
4.6

4

T
1.3

3

MG
111.0

2

D
9.3

2

K
5.0

2

HB
4.3

3

M
4.0

4

T
1.3

2

MG
111.0

2

D
18.2

5

K
9.6

4

HB
8.6

5

M
7.4

5

T
0.6

3

.... Mitch Hinge
Riley Knight

3

Riley Knight

Age
29

Ht

181cm

Wt
80kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
14.4

4

K
6.7

3

HB
7.8

5

M
3.9

4

T
3.6

5

G
0.7

4

No current season stats available

D
11.0

3

K
5.0

2

HB
6.0

4

M
2.8

3

T
2.6

4

G
0.8

4

Myles Poholke

10

Myles Poholke

Age
26

Ht

186cm

Wt
86kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
10.5

3

K
6.1

2

HB
4.4

3

M
4.2

4

T
2.1

4

G
0.4

3

D
9.5

2

K
6.0

2

HB
3.5

2

M
4.5

4

T
2.0

3

G
1.0

4

D
9.2

3

K
5.4

2

HB
3.8

3

M
3.8

4

T
2.2

4

G
0.2

3

... Sam Berry

Hartigan.... Borlase
Gallucci ..... Newchurch

TexForPM · Dec 10, 2020

Stiffy_18 said:
Fogarty to get more time in the midfield?

I reckon he can do it.
Has the goose step and a good don't argue.

With the rest we brought in we should have a lot of versatility.

Hes a forward then mid in my eyes

WaynesWorld19 · Dec 10, 2020

Shaz2012 said:
Hartigan.... Borlase
Gallucci ..... Newchurch

Potentially .....but has to be in the 50 / 50 basket, and 2-3 years away

Shaz2012 · Dec 10, 2020

WaynesWorld19 said:
Potentially .....but has to be in the 50 / 50 basket, and 2-3 years away

All 18 yo draftees are 2-3 years away imo. Next up to force their way in will be guys like Butts, McHenry, Worrall, Frampton, Davis, Gollant, O'Connor.

Golumless · Dec 10, 2020

WaynesWorld19 said:
Really happy with last nights Draft collection ....we lost 6 midfielders after the season, and replaced with 4 tough inside Mids, and added another quality tall

2021 Draft will be about adding midfield Class ...speed

Probably Hartigan is the player position that was not addressed .....so many contested hardball players on the list now ....add Milera into that midfield & exciting times ahead

.......................Riley Thilthorpe
Rory Atkins

32

Rory Atkins

Age
30

Ht

185cm

Wt
82kg

Pos.
Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D
19.9

5

K
12.1

4

HB
7.9

5

M
4.6

4

T
1.9

4

MG
367.4

5

D
9.0

2

K
5.0

2

HB
4.0

3

M
0.3

1

T
2.7

4

MG
147.7

3

D
14.2

4

K
8.8

4

HB
5.4

4

M
4.0

4

T
1.2

3

MG
217.8

4

.... Brayden Cook
Ben Crocker

20

Ben Crocker

Age
27

Ht

188cm

Wt
84kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
9.5

2

K
6.3

2

HB
3.2

3

M
3.7

4

T
1.7

4

G
0.8

4

D
9.3

2

K
7.5

3

HB
1.8

1

M
4.3

4

T
1.5

2

G
0.8

4

D
9.0

3

K
5.0

2

HB
4.0

3

M
2.8

3

T
2.0

4

G
1.0

4

.... James Rowe
Brad Crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age
31

Ht

186cm

Wt
86kg

Pos.
Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D
26.1

5

K
12.1

4

HB
14.0

5

M
2.7

3

T
5.5

5

CL
5.0

5

D
20.3

5

K
11.1

4

HB
9.1

5

M
1.5

2

T
3.9

5

CL
4.6

5

D
21.6

5

K
10.0

4

HB
11.6

5

M
3.4

4

T
4.2

5

CL
2.6

5

.... Luke Pedlar
Jordan Gallucci

7

Jordan Gallucci

Age
26

Ht

182cm

Wt
78kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.8

3

K
9.0

3

HB
2.8

2

M
3.0

3

T
2.1

4

G
0.7

4

No current season stats available

D
12.0

3

K
8.8

4

HB
3.2

3

M
2.2

3

T
2.4

4

G
0.8

4

Bryce Gibbs .... Jackson Hately

6

Jackson Hately

Age
24

Ht

191cm

Wt
85kg

Pos.
Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D
15.3

4

K
8.5

3

HB
6.8

4

M
4.8

5

T
2.6

4

CL
0.7

3

D
14.2

3

K
8.4

3

HB
5.8

3

M
4.8

4

T
1.4

2

CL
0.4

3

D
17.2

5

K
8.6

4

HB
8.6

5

M
5.6

5

T
3.0

5

CL
0.8

3

Kyle Hartigan

28

Kyle Hartigan

Age
33

Ht

194cm

Wt
101kg

Pos.
Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.8

3

K
6.8

3

HB
5.0

4

M
4.6

4

T
1.3

3

MG
111.0

2

D
9.3

2

K
5.0

2

HB
4.3

3

M
4.0

4

T
1.3

2

MG
111.0

2

D
18.2

5

K
9.6

4

HB
8.6

5

M
7.4

5

T
0.6

3

.... Mitch Hinge
Riley Knight

3

Riley Knight

Age
29

Ht

181cm

Wt
80kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
14.4

4

K
6.7

3

HB
7.8

5

M
3.9

4

T
3.6

5

G
0.7

4

No current season stats available

D
11.0

3

K
5.0

2

HB
6.0

4

M
2.8

3

T
2.6

4

G
0.8

4

Myles Poholke

10

Myles Poholke

Age
26

Ht

186cm

Wt
86kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
10.5

3

K
6.1

2

HB
4.4

3

M
4.2

4

T
2.1

4

G
0.4

3

D
9.5

2

K
6.0

2

HB
3.5

2

M
4.5

4

T
2.0

3

G
1.0

4

D
9.2

3

K
5.4

2

HB
3.8

3

M
3.8

4

T
2.2

4

G
0.2

3

... Sam Berry

Hartigan was addressed last year. McAsey

Letting him walk to Hawthorn is just us clearing the path for Fish to take over. Though Butts looks like he'll have something to say about that.

WaynesWorld19 · Dec 10, 2020

Golumless said:
Hartigan was addressed last year. McAsey

Letting him walk to Hawthorn is just us clearing the path for Fish to take over. Though Butts looks like he'll have something to say about that.

Be prepared to be disappointed then .....a 2nd year KPD is not cut it YET ....2nd year players rarely do

Butts has to strengthen up a lot & learn how to use his body better in one on one contests .....something he's avoided due, up to now, to the skinny frame

IMO we need another KPD ....Talia & Hartigan out soon, Mcasey to take one roll, and ???? on the other replacement

WaynesWorld19 · Dec 10, 2020

Pedlar is already huge across the chest .....if both Powell and Pedlar are 183 cm, they need to re-measure Pedlar

Vader · Dec 10, 2020

WaynesWorld19 said:
Pedlar is already huge across the chest .....if both Powell and Pedlar are 183 cm, they need to re-measure Pedlar

View attachment 1025944

How poor are we as a club? Two of our players still haven't been given AFC polo tops to wear. Two of them are so poor they can't even afford socks. One is so poor that his jeans are ripped at the knees.

Golumless · Dec 10, 2020

WaynesWorld19 said:
Be prepared to be disappointed then .....a 2nd year KPD is not cut it YET ....2nd year players rarely do

Butts has to strengthen up a lot & learn how to use his body better in one on one contests .....something he's avoided due, up to now, to the skinny frame

IMO we need another KPD ....Talia & Hartigan out soon, Mcasey to take one roll, and ???? on the other replacement

I doubt I will be. We're in no rush with KPDs at the moment, seeing we're going to be at the bottom for another year or two yet, which will give McAsey ample time to get his game up to scratch.

By then, he'll assume the mantle of number 1, and we can dumpster dive the number 2 role, Butts will take it (if he is still around), or Talia will go again for another 1-2 seasons.

Thetrader15 · Dec 10, 2020

Vader said:
How poor are we as a club? Two of our players still haven't been given AFC polo tops to wear. Two of them are so poor they can't even afford socks. One is so poor that his jeans are ripped at the knees.

At least they aren't wearing shorts.

Thetrader15 · Dec 10, 2020

WaynesWorld19 said:
Pedlar is already huge across the chest .....if both Powell and Pedlar are 183 cm, they need to re-measure Pedlar

View attachment 1025944

Pedlar could be a Thommo in a couple of years. Reckon he and Fog might spend a bit of time together in the weights room.

Vader · Dec 10, 2020

Thetrader15 said:
At least they aren't wearing shorts.

The lack of socks would be less jarring if they were.

Vader · Dec 10, 2020

Thetrader15 said:
Pedlar could be a Thommo in a couple of years. Reckon he and Fog might spend a bit of time together in the weights room.

I really hope Fog lays off on the weights, and spends the rest of the summer doing laps around the oval. His problem is too much muscle mass, coupled with a lack of fitness. Spending the whole summer lifting weights will only make his problems worse, not better.

WaynesWorld19 · Dec 10, 2020

Mego Red · Dec 10, 2020

Vader said:
How poor are we as a club? Two of our players still haven't been given AFC polo tops to wear. Two of them are so poor they can't even afford socks. One is so poor that his jeans are ripped at the knees.

This ... This is a joke, right?

Coopers · Dec 10, 2020

Mego Red said:
This ... This is a joke, right?

No, it's budget cutbacks.

Golumless · Dec 10, 2020

WaynesWorld19 said:

It's interesting that we've got a specific target in mind for our SSP position.

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