List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

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Continued in Part III



Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino
Sam Alabakis

Traded;
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Retired;
Jake Carlisle
Dylan Roberton
Shaun McKernan
James Frawley


Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan (RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie - Link
25. Dean Kent - Link
39. Darragh Joyce - Link
41. Paul Hunter - Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;




Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)
 
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H-Sun reporting St Kilda has no interest in Luke Parker.
*knocks stumps over with bat*
 

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When they haven't got it wrong, people get defensive.
Sinclair ahead of Hind and played his role far better than Hind
Hill ahead of Hind
Coffield ahead of Hind
Even Highmore who wsn't even at the club would be ahead of Hind.

Essendon had a need after Saad left. Hind has done well, but this trope that we stuffed up by not overpaying for a Sandy player is a bridge too foar AFAIAC.

Too right, Hind didn’t even show up in the final!

🤣
 
That's so St Kilda to take "the next Pendles" and chuck him in the backline for 4 seasons.

They said Seb Ross had Pendlebury attributes in his draft profile from memory so I'll take that Coffield comparison with several grains of salt, but if Coff doesn't get a pre-season with the mid-fielders this year or next he will most likely wind up a wasted talent and St Kilda will be to blame.

I'd personally prefer to see more Coff and Clark in the guts this year than Gresh and Billings. We have enough defenders to cover for them with Paton coming back and Sinclair finding his best position down there.
So where would you play Ross now if he signs up. He would be mad to knock back the 2 year deal the saints have offered him. No place on the wing!!!! probably bench at best.
 

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So where would you play Ross now if he signs up. He would be mad to knock back the 2 year deal the saints have offered him. No place on the wing!!!! probably bench at best.

I simply wouldn't re-sign Ross. If he played it'd be due to several injuries.
 
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Fully agree - Having Marshall - 13, Ryder - 12 , Jones - 13 , Clark -13 , Gresham -3 all missing close to half a season hurt the team and having players in the squad that just broken - Carlisle , Frawley , McKernan , Hannerbery , Geary , Roberton and were meant to at least play some games and we also had Paton out , however the re-emergence Webster covered him.

We also had players who were nowhere near the form they can produce this includes Hill , Butler , Membery , Ross , Billings.
I also think the floggings we got from the Bombers , Dogs , Tigers really effected the confidence of the young guys like King , Coffield , Bytel and Battle.

In saying this we still only missed the 8 by one game , however amongst the pain we also found something to be happy about
- Higgins looks to be a star in the making
- Byrne continuing his development
- Crouch was a good pick up
- Connolly looks like a kid with a future
- Sharman has already shown he is more than up to standard
- Highmore was very impressive
- McKenzie had people in shock
- Webster came back to his best after just about missing 2 years of football.

With fewer injuries and just internal development of players there is no reason we don't play finals and if everything clicks top 4 is not out of the question.
I think this is the general consensus aside from a few worry warts and profound cynics, which by the way are always much needed to strike the balance in the search for some semblance of truth.....throw in a new fitness regime, some extra talent and all looks positive....

My only real concern is the capability of game day coaching...well decision making in real time...I'd like to hear from those that think they are qualified to assess our real time decisions from the coaching team on game day... over the season. I know I have an intuitive sense that it leaves much to be desired but I'm certainly no game time strategist or real time footy/chess critic. I guess that is a rhetorical request ...its just that it worries me!
 
SAINTS RULE OUT INTREST IN PARKER
St Kilda has ruled itself out of any interest in free agent Luke Parker, who is intent on considering his options given only a two-year offer from the Swans.

Parker won the Sydney best-and-fairest this week and is looking for a four-year deal worth around $700,000 a season.

Sydney has offered only two years at around $500,000-$550,000.

At this stage Gold Coast is considered making a play but Parker turns 29 in October and the Suns are more focussed on key forwards.

Parker would be a strong fit for a club such as St Kilda which believes it is opening up a premiership window.

But the Saints are looking to keep cash for a bid for Ben King next year.

The Saints hoping for seasons from Hunter Clark and Jade Gresham next year to reinvigorate a midfield that dropped out of the top eight for contested possession differential and clearance differential.

St Kilda’s Dan Hannebery is believed to have made a financial sacrifice that could help the club’s cap space given only 15 games in three seasons.

But despite speculation he might have split next year’s money into the 2022-23 seasons, it can be confirmed his guaranteed contract will expire at the end of next year.

It means the Saints have only one more year of a deal that when struck was to be a five-year deal but ended up at four years on over $700,000 with a fifth-year trigger.

Opinions are split on Parker’s worth given he turns 29 before next season.

He is a stoppage beast who can kick 20 goals a season and never misses a game but some list bosses will worry that without pace he could hit a wall at 31 and leave them with a big wage bill in his last seasons.

unless we were in the top 4 over 2 years i don't want a 29 year old. geelong did it, they one a premiership 11 years ago, and since then they keep topping up in the hope of buying there next premiership.
 
Maybe Ben does stay on the Gold Coast.

But let’s be clear. People don’t make long standing rumours such as Ben wanting to come home or his parents calling Lethers for advice about Ben if there isn’t any truth in him wanting to leave at some point.

all we need to do, is treat Max and his family like the second coming of Jesus. So that Ben nominates us next year.

I find it insanely unbelievable that the Suns will send him to the draft and forgo whatever picks we offer them for him in 12 months. Infact I believe the AFL would step in at that point.
Going on past dealings with the AFL the intervention they'll favour is revoking our license and send Max to GCS.
I really want Ben but I'm wary of the fact that the Subs are owned and managed by the governing body who have no regard for process.
Any transfer of Ben to the Saints will need to be carefully managed.
 
Can see this playing out exactly this way.
AFL and Clarko already probably done a handshake deal.
Thats why it’s important we use our pick this year in the draft to get the best kid we can.


I do like the idea of Clarko going to the Suns as long as we get Ben King
 
unless we were in the top 4 over 2 years i don't want a 29 year old. geelong did it, they one a premiership 11 years ago, and since then they keep topping up in the hope of buying there next premiership.
would take Geelong last 11 years over ours
 
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