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Best case is we trade up 3 or 4 spots?
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Wonder if any clubs who finished outside the 8 last year will be interested in giving up their 2023 1st for Sydney's pick 14 which will probably end up being 15 or 16?
I get a Melbourne, Geelong and Brisbane making the trade but fail to see any other club that would really jump at the opportunity
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That’s the thing though, they would only do it if they really rate the kid. Picking Stocker is bad recruiting/drafting it doesn’t mean the trade was bad.
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Yup have heard that before same tired observation every new draft cohort a little stagnant.
Perhaps portrayed wrong impression top 5 are talented no doubt, but we won’t get close, as in every draft , subsequently one will need plenty of luck.
I have my favorites, Hollands, Fletcher, Phillipou ,Ginbey Humphrey and Keeler.
Austin will be astute and probably select Hollands he’s what we need, unless Busslinger and Allen sneak into top 10, then it’s fun and games.
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The stocker trade is a good case study. A list boss/ manager completely absorbed by the value of the trade. Got an off piste chance at personal glory... footy press loved the 'strategy' of it all, what a move, rah rah.
Both sides of the trade were sh*t.
You (as a club) have to back yourself in on a kid that has genuine belief/insecurity combined with a willingness to put in the hard yards, hard to pick up on. A well spoken interview means not much often. Have dumb sh!ts come through our grad program all the time that talk a huge game quite well, then go and burn their finger on the coffee machine because they are not sure if the milk comes out hot or not. #Gamble responsibly / intuitively Austin & Co.
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Can't remember a draft night with so much up in the air around who'll go where and a range of pick swaps being floated (which admittedly is pretty new). Pumped to see how it all plays out on draft night/s
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Does he still work for us then?
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no! that's his cousin, harry high-pants...........fmd........
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“You have to have more levers than simply relying on the draft,” says Carlton chief executive Brian Cook, who was at Geelong when the Cats – whose 2007 to 2011 dynasty was draft-based – flipped sharply to trades and free agency.
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The draft remains the best and most important vehicle for clubs to pick themselves up from the bottom. Or to regenerate an ageing list. It provides the foundation – such as Carlton’s five A-graders – on which to add. “You have to have something to build with first,” says one renowned list manager.
Why the AFL draft isn’t working
The draft, while still important, is no longer shaping the destinies of teams the way it once did.
The draft remains the best and most important vehicle for clubs to pick themselves up from the bottom. Or to regenerate an ageing list. It provides the foundation – such as Carlton’s five A-graders – on which to add. “You have to have something to build with first,” says one renowned list manager.
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Keeler or George.
Jimmae
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Way too early for both. Likewise, too early for Hotton as suggested earlier, maybe even Allan unless they think his kicking on the run is under control.
Think WC would want him, perfect for their rebuild. I'd prefer to trade back and add another pick inside 30
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I remember when people were saying the Weitering/Curnow/McKay draft was weak, Weitering was a terrible number one pick who would only just make the top 10 in a normal year, and next years draft was the super draft. The following year Andy McGrath was pick 1 
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That's ok if the player is of similiar talent. An extra year is irrelevant in a lot of cases. We've got 5 years into Dow.
Would you rather have got an extra year into a kid from the 2017 draft, or waited for Walsh in 2018? We had no idea we were going to be so bad in 2018 and that highlights the risk of trading out of a stronger draft.
Sydney are a smart club. If they want more picks next year at the expense of this one, I'd back them over posters here.
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If:
Cadman
Ashcroft
Wardlaw
Sheezel
Phillipou
Tsatas
Ginbey
Clark
Humphrey
Mackenzie
are gone. I’ll be happy with…
am I doing it right???
Cadman
Ashcroft
Wardlaw
Sheezel
Phillipou
Tsatas
Ginbey
Clark
Humphrey
Mackenzie
are gone. I’ll be happy with…
am I doing it right???
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Agree with that.
SOS went to the US to "study" how live trading was done when it was being introduced here. Came back and did it immediately just because he could.
All depends on your expectations for next year, also, if the Campo twins continue to develop as they have so far I see us trading out of at least the first round in 2024 and using that to go into the first round in 2023.
I don’t know, but Sydney may have some excellent academy products in the 2023 and wanting to get the collateral now to help pay form them and still have a meaningful impact in that draft.
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SOS went to the US because it’s a junket these type of people get the benefit of. 14 year olds who follow American sport already know everything that SOS could learn from sitting at home on the computer.
He done the trade because we rated Stoker too high, simple as that.
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2017 top 30 is probably as good as or better then 2018 so unless you were guaranteed a top 7 pick (which you wouldn’t be) then it wouldn’t matter much.
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And reasonably thought we would improve in 2019.
Wasn't expecting 2 disastrous years in a row.
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In all fairness to SOS, he had Stocker very high on his board and saw value in doing the trade. We would be singing his praises if Stocker fulfilled his potential with us, but instead SOS is criticised for being too clever/arrogant. The job of a list manager is to maximise the amount of talent on their list with the resources they have available to them. They are not responsible for the development of the players they recruit. Draft busts happen every year in every sport that has a draft.
IMO, the thought process that led to the Stocker trade was correct and I would be happy for Austin to make similar moves going forward.
Understand your logic, but Carlton 2017/18 compared to 2023 is like comparing chalk and cheese Earl.
I don’t even think Harry played many AFL games back then, Weitering was finding his feet as was Charlie…2 Coleman medalists later, AA representation, addition of Saad, Cerra, Hewett, Young etc. There’s no way you would be thinking or planning that we could be as bad as 2018.
If as I expect we end up with #11+ next year what quality of player is likely to be there, even in a super duper draft next year, compared to 14 & 17 this year with a year of development in a team with the above guns.
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AFL phantom draft 2022: Every first round pick and bid predicted in Fox Footy mock draft
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Has us bidding on Fletcher, and taking Hollands.
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