List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft & Rookie Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[Stamos]

Also, from above

LATEST DRAFT INTEL …
Rival teams are aware of Sydney’s willingness to strike a trade with one or both of their first-round selections (Picks 14 and 17) as it has a desire to boost its 2023 draft hand. The consensus is Carlton, which has been transparent about its desire to split its first selection (Pick 10), would be the club most likely to strike a deal with the Swans, who’d probably get a future selection back as part of any swap. If the Blues trade down to get two picks, they’d likely target at least one key defender — Lewis Hayes or Josh Weddle — and a hybrid type — Jacob Konstanty has been linked to the club, as has Elijah Hewett.

 

[ferrisb]

harry hindsight - the greatest list manager of all time.............

Almost as good as C. Woulda Shoulda...

 

[Blue train 28]

I’m so keen , and after the last couple of years the way we have recruited and drafted . I have so much more trust in the recruiting team then ever before

 

[Blue train 28]

Also, from above

This would be pretty good deal for us if this happened. We are linked pretty heavy with Holland’s at our pick 11 atm. And there is a good chance if we move back he will still be there for the taking

 

[Stamos]

This would be pretty good deal for us if this happened. We are linked pretty heavy with Holland’s at our pick 11 atm. And there is a good chance if we move back he will still be there for the taking

Not sure I'd say "pretty good chance", the Dogs likely snap him up, but there is a chance.
I wonder who the Swans would be targeting, if they try to move up, instead of out to 2023?

 

[La Dispute]

Watching this grab has me even less enthused about taking Hollands.

Granted Carroll is running around against some witches hats, his understanding of the role and running patterns are really good for a guy playing his first game.

His hands are quick under pressure, movement at the periphery of the stoppage is great - there are a couple of moments he has to absorb contact and then pivot quickly to clear the ball - but most impressive is his kicking inside 50. A couple of beautiful lace out passes to key forwards.

Could be the real surprise packet next year, and should be aiming to dislodge LOB. He doesn’t have the fitness base yet, but he has far more strings to his bow as a footballer - the contested side of his game and poise in particular.

I’m still hoping Humphrey slips through, and right now it seems very possible with Gold Coast now seemingly set on Ginbey, McKenzie and Clark potentially coming up the order, and Tstatas drifting back to seduce another club into taking him.

Busslinger and Hewett are my 2nd and 3rd choices.

 

[macky99]

AFL phantom draft 2022: Every first round pick and bid predicted in Fox Footy mock draft

Why Dons could favour Bont clone over star mid; Cats’ shock call: AFL first-round mock draft

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Has us bidding on Fletcher, and taking Hollands.

l would not place too much trust in their selections, they have Clark dropping to 10 and Tsatas at 8, McKenzie ahead of those two, l don't see that happening at all.
Ginbey won't last to 9 either.
l still think alot to play out from Carlton's side first option is for one of the top 9 dropping to our selection, if not l see us splitting our pick & despite the commentary here on Hollands l see him in that 2nd level 12-20 based on pure football talent, no question great athlete but don't see him having the polish of the top tier in this draft.

 

[Stamos]

l would not place too much trust in their selections, they have Clark dropping to 10 and Tsatas at 8, McKenzie ahead of those two, l don't see that happening at all.
Ginbey won't last to 9 either.
l still think alot to play out from Carlton's side first option is for one of the top 9 dropping to our selection, if not l see us splitting our pick & despite the commentary here on Hollands l see him in that 2nd level 12-20 based on pure football talent, no question great athlete but don't see him having the polish of the top tier in this draft.

I think there is a very reasonable possibility that the Hawks take MacKenzie, and Ginbey making it to West Coast.
Less sure about whether Cats would take Tsatas, or Clark?

 

[macky99]

I think there is a very reasonable possibility that the Hawks take MacKenzie, and Ginbey making it to West Coast.
Less sure about whether Cats would take Tsatas, or Clark?

Anything is possible in this draft but l think the Suns will take Ginbey and the Hawks will choose between Clark/ Humphrey or Tsatas.

 

[Magical_EddieBetts]

If we do the pick swap with the swans, I like the look of Josh Weddle I’d be keen to use one of the selections on him

 

[Coona Blues]

AFL phantom draft 2022: Every first round pick and bid predicted in Fox Footy mock draft

Why Dons could favour Bont clone over star mid; Cats’ shock call: AFL first-round mock draft

www.foxsports.com.au

Has us bidding on Fletcher, and taking Hollands.

That Phantom is going to be very close to the mark. Gold Coast may be the miss. The teen picks are exceptionally close to my understanding.

 

[Doro]

SOS went to the US because it’s a junket these type of people get the benefit of. 14 year olds who follow American sport already know everything that SOS could learn from sitting at home on the computer.
He done the trade because we rated Stoker too high, simple as that.

I don't think you start flipping F1 picks when you're in the cellar full stop. Hawks, Kangaroos in a similar place as we were entering the 2018 draft- Would be silly of them to do a similar trade. If we'd showed any hint at that stage our climb up the ladder was about to begin then fair enough, but we hadn't. Placed the club and player under a lot of unnecessary pressure. Went too early with that one SOS.

 

[La Dispute]

I don't think you start flipping F1 picks when you're in the cellar full stop. Hawks, Kangaroos in a similar place as we were entering the 2018 draft- Would be silly of them to do a similar trade. If we'd showed any hint at that stage our climb up the ladder was about to begin then fair enough, but we hadn't. Placed the club and player under a lot of unnecessary pressure. Went too early with that one SOS.

Had as much too do with not rating the Crows and predicting them to continue to slide - which did happen - but it was a very risky play.

Could have easily stepped back 10-12 draft spots instead of a couple.

I still like the ploy, but we’d probably just missed the boat on any decent prospects eg Butters. At that stage the only real candidates were Stocker and RCD, who have both now been delisted.

 

[Stamos]

I don't think you start flipping F1 picks when you're in the cellar full stop. Hawks, Kangaroos in a similar place as we were entering the 2018 draft- Would be silly of them to do a similar trade. If we'd showed any hint at that stage our climb up the ladder was about to begin then fair enough, but we hadn't. Placed the club and player under a lot of unnecessary pressure. Went too early with that one SOS.

We should have been around 50% winning in 2019. Teague proved that as soon as he took over (and he was a terrible Senior Coach).
Should we have predicted Bolton going off the rails?

Also hard to predict the AFL giving Gold Coast pick #1 as a priority pick.
Without which means we would have sacrificed Young for Stocker and Serong. The trade was fine, we just got our assessment of Stocker wrong. Still a lot to play out with Kemp and Philp.

 

[Stamos]

I still like the ploy, but we’d probably just missed the boat on any decent prospects eg Butters. At that stage the only real candidates were Stocker and RCD, who have both now been delisted.

Rowbottom would have been handy.
All hindsight recruiting though.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Fox footy are reporting that we are the club most likely to swap 10 for 14 and 17 via Sydney. Assuming they are just putting 2+2 together given both of our public claims about what we’d like to do.

My favourite part of the article is where it links us to both Weddle/Hayes, Konstanty and Hewett with the Swans picks should the trade happen.

 

[bmaurizio]

Keeler or George.

Spot on Keeler a favorite of mine and missed to mention George in earlier post love his skill, determination, urgency in contested clashes.

 

[Stamos]

Fox footy are reporting that we are the club most likely to swap 10 for 14 and 17 via Sydney. Assuming they are just putting 2+2 together given both of our public claims about what we’d like to do.

My favourite part of the article is where it links us to both Weddle/Hayes, Konstanty and Hewett with the Swans picks should the trade happen.

It could happen, but it only make sense if the player the Swans want makes it to our pick. That seems to be Humphrey, who is unlikely to slide, and we would probably want to take anyway.
Will be really interesting to see what happens. I reckon if Swans trade those picks it's more likely going to be for futures.

 

[La Dispute]

Fox footy are reporting that we are the club most likely to swap 10 for 14 and 17 via Sydney. Assuming they are just putting 2+2 together given both of our public claims about what we’d like to do.

My favourite part of the article is where it links us to both Weddle/Hayes, Konstanty and Hewett with the Swans picks should the trade happen.

Bringing in four players with two selections we’ve traded for one pick would be a great business.

Get it done Nick Austin.

 

[La Dispute]

It could happen, but it only make sense if the player the Swans want makes it to our pick. That seems to be Humphrey, who is unlikely to slide, and we would probably want to take anyway.
Will be really interesting to see what happens. I reckon if Swans trade those picks it's more likely going to be for futures.

It’s every chance to happen if Ginbey goes at Pick 6.

There’s a logjam of players rated similarly between 6-15.

We might even do the trade with the understanding the Swans want Humphrey, Dogs take Busslinger, Eagles take Allen, we can then grab Hollands at 14, then potentially one of Weddle, Hayes or George at 17.

Hewett sliding could be very interesting too.

 

[Stamos]

Hewett sliding could be very interesting too.

Reckon this is likely.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

I don't think you start flipping F1 picks when you're in the cellar full stop. Hawks, Kangaroos in a similar place as we were entering the 2018 draft- Would be silly of them to do a similar trade. If we'd showed any hint at that stage our climb up the ladder was about to begin then fair enough, but we hadn't. Placed the club and player under a lot of unnecessary pressure. Went too early with that one SOS.

Depends how they rated Stoker. If they think he was equal to the top five in the next draft then it’s a no brainer imo. It all depends on how they rate someone, the pick means nothing

 

[Stamos]

It’s every chance to happen if Ginbey goes at Pick 6.

There’s a logjam of players rated similarly between 6-15.

We might even do the trade with the understanding the Swans want Humphrey, Dogs take Busslinger, Eagles take Allen, we can then grab Hollands at 14, then potentially one of Weddle, Hayes or George at 17.

Hewett sliding could be very interesting too.

For Humphrey to make it to our pick, Busslinger or Allen need to go top 10 (to Cats or Eagles).

 

[Doro]

Depends how they rated Stoker. If they think he was equal to the top five in the next draft then it’s a no brainer imo. It all depends on how they rate someone, the pick means nothing

The pick means a lot if you are coming off a 2/20 season with no sweeping list / coaching changes, meaning improvement was likely to be minimal. In that situation, with our favouritism for the 2019 wooden spoon - you hold a lot more value on your F1.

 

[no fate]

That’s the thing though, they would only do it if they really rate the kid. Picking Stocker is bad recruiting/drafting it doesn’t mean the trade was bad.

The trade was bad too. Trading future pick 3 down to future pick 8 to get 19 is not something you would ever do unless totally sure on the kid you are getting at 19 (in the case Stocker). It left us with nothing we absolutely wanted the following year, so we traded back again to get Kemp and Philp. I remember at the time everyone wanted Young or Serong and surely one of those would have been selected for us with the original pick - bad drafting or not. It would be same most years, the top 5 picks pick themselves, but picks around 10 start to become sketchy.

Its not just hindsight either - this was just too risky at the time, agree with others that SOS was trying to be too smart, and club somehow thought we were going to finish higher up the ladder (big call after the spoon the year before).

We cannot afford to make the same mistake twice here, and I bet the club knows that. F1 will not be traded.