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George sounds more masculine than Rachel.
Preview 2022 draft prospects
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sr36
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I think we might load up on talls.
One solid boy who rookie Central has issues noted about his athleticism.
Yet @ 197cm & 99 Kgs his running vertical jump of 98cm was the best result at the National Combine, as was his standing vertical @ 75cm while his 2.91 seconds in the 20m sprint ranked fourth
When we traded 41 to the Hawks I thought that pick may have been enough to nab Van Es with, after his combine results who knows
Thumping kick too
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Draft prospect: James Van Es
Check out the highlights of 2022 NAB AFL Draft prospect James Van Es
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Pie 4 Life
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So are Sibba and Jed Adams.
ThePheonix
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What pick would you use on him now?When we traded 41 to the Hawks I thought that pick may have been enough to nab Van Es with, after his combine results who knows
Thumping kick too
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Draft prospect: James Van Es
Check out the highlights of 2022 NAB AFL Draft prospect James Van Es
As per my post mate, who knows after the combine
ESPN's Phantom has him going @ 41 after the combine was completed if that helps
Could go anywhere between late second or he could be rookied due to ground ball weakness. Pure guess
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One solid boy who rookie Central has issues noted with his athleticism.
Yet @ 197cm & 99 Kgs his running vertical jump of 98cm was the best result at the National Combine, as was his standing vertical @ 75cm while his 2.91 seconds in the 20m sprint ranked fourth
When we traded 41 to the Hawks I thought that pick may have been enough to nab Van Es with, after his combine results who knows
Thumping kick too
Highlights:
Draft prospect: James Van Es
Check out the highlights of 2022 NAB AFL Draft prospect James Van Es
i was impressed most with his kicking, long , penetrating and most importantly, quick through the air.
ThePheonix
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Very impressed, long, fast and accurate.
Had a fair ruckmen I'm told hitting it down his throat playing for S.A
Scodog10
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To provide some context I think the number of list spots available paints a pretty bleak picture of the quality in this draft. On that basis I’m not expecting much to come out of it from about 10 onwards so I’d be playing it safer and going for ground level types.
With our 1st pick I’m hoping for guys like Allen and Hayes to be reached for because it means someone like Hewett or Philippou slips through. The two in the 20’s (if they’re retained) I’d be looking at Jones/ Drury/ George who on the surface have reasons to not be sought after, but feel like AFL talents. If one of the currently more highly rated guys doesn’t fall out I’d be fine with George and on the risk v reward basis he’s a much safer bet than a tall, IMO.
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Scodog10
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Sorry to be painful about it mate I just don’t rate highlight packages as a reference point for these discussions.
They didn’t have much of a sample size to work with on George. You can tell he’s a talent because it’s basically all from one game so it’s “footage” not a highlights package. Same goes for Hewett v metro, but his sample size was much larger.
Barnett though has a cult following on here, but he was up against ruckman the size of Henry in the U18 portion of his. It just lacks context.
Agree with your call on the top 10 & as such I don't see Hewett or Philippou available close to pick 19, Hayes & Allen (the bolter) may get thru and would be good picks for us and both fill long term positional needs.
If we're talking medium players which I have no issue taking, we did use the trade period to sure up talls. May also take a ruck at pick 51.
I too like Jones & would also consider 2 of Hustwaite, Cowan, Szybkowski, Weddle, Konstanty & George if any slip & are available at 25 & 27.
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Scodog10
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I like those two. Hustwaite to seems to have something about him, but for some weird reason he feels like the tipping point in the draft. Basically all his traits scream line ball AFL footballer. Good frame for a mid (will he add size?), composed in traffic (will he find space at the next level?), he finds the ball (does he handball too much?), good user (does he do enough damage per possession?) etc.
The way I’m looking at him is to ask two questions.
1. Is he a 12cp a game player at the top level?
2. Does he presents any better than Draper?
For me it’s a no to both and I didn’t particularly rate Draper’s year.
Two traits I’m focusing on for us are pace and strength over the ball because they feed best with our transition game. I think Jones, George, Szybowski and Hewett tick those boxes best one way or another. On Drury I think he presents as a footballer like Ginnivan and Cowan feels under the radar because we’re stacked for ground level defenders.
Do you think we take a DFA & if not who would you be choosing or type you would target with pick 51?
Any project rucks you are prepared to chose here?
Others opinions would appreciated Thx?
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Yeah I'm hoping Draper's issues were based around injuries, the same goes for Murley. That said I'm not sold on either yet & hope both prove me wrong.
The best of the 3 S.A boys for me may well be Harrison.
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I'd be more concerned about George than Barnett. Barnett might have been up against smaller players but his contested marking and agility are elite, as is his is tap work. At 185cm and a knee reco, George would be a huge risk. As with Barnett, George was also playing against sub standard, undersized opponents, too small to be a threat anywhere and too big to be a small forward, wait till he gets to the AFL and has to play against the like of Maynard
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Seems like an unreasonable standard given only 14 players in the AFL averaged 12 contested possessions a game or more, and guys who fell short of that mark include Jack Crisp, Taylor Adams, Jordan De Goey, Joel Selwood, Patrick Dangerfield, Tim Taranto, Sam Walsh, Marcus Bontempelli...
Respectfully one couldn't realistically expect any 18 year old come in and have an impact on an all Aust in Maynard Manic & that also applies to Barnett Vrs any AFL ruckman of note.
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It's the knee that worries me. It looks like he could be available at one of our picks, be interesting if we pull the trigger. If you look at the current AFL environment, there aren't too many 186cm forwards that could be regarded as gun forwards. For me, he would have to become an effective midfielder who can go forward if asked upon. Can he do that remains to be seen because we only got snippets of his midfield prowess. I wouldn't be devestated if we took him but there are other more pressing needs than George. EDIT: If we were going to take a risk, I would prefer Munkara
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What are the chances of Lemmy being available at our pick 51 (without factoring in bids)?
Had such big wraps early and his 2022 season was nothing short of a nightmare with injury, illness and poor form - but he's a talented KPP and if he's available with a late pick surely he'd be worth investing in? Seems to have a good attitude in the Fox Article and might be the sort that thrives in a consistent and professional environment?
Had such big wraps early and his 2022 season was nothing short of a nightmare with injury, illness and poor form - but he's a talented KPP and if he's available with a late pick surely he'd be worth investing in? Seems to have a good attitude in the Fox Article and might be the sort that thrives in a consistent and professional environment?
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I wouldn't be surprised if we took him with our pick 27. He has huge upside, Richmond are all over him and might even try to trade down to get him, just saying
Be very curious to see if we do take him at 27. So much talk has been how much he's sliding in the eyes of recruiters, if we were to be very keen on him it might be a solid play to shuffle down from our pick 27 for example to grab him in 30/40's and try and improve our hand in 2023 perhaps?
Scodog10
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EFA. There were 23 (24 if Florenca’s included…) that averaged 11.5 or above which excludes the likes of Bontempelli, Dunkley and Steele who have reached that level previously or Newcombe, Warner and Anderson who will moving forward. Most clubs can carry one maybe two of the big inside mid options that have limited go forward ability and distribute primarily by hand like Hustwaite. That’s the level he needs to reach if he’s going to be a week in week out option unless his game changes once he enters the system.
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That would work too. We have been linked to him so I hope we take the chance. Someone mentioned growing pains held him back this year as well as having covid.
Scodog10
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Yes because you want us to go tall.
I’m under no illusion that George comes with the buyer beware tag because of his knee, but I’m not at all concerned with him against opponents like Maynard because a) they’re rare and b) he presents as a type that can be used up the field if he has a poor forward matchup. As I’ve said a number of times with him it all hinges on his ACL recovery.
FWIW NAB U18>>>>>>>SANFL U18. I would only count Barnett’s national championships and ignore everything else.
