Preview 2022 draft prospects

[KJpie]

Ben McEvoy?

I don't watch Hawk games, dislike them with a passion
Thought he's cooked???

 

[Scodog10]

No I think you’re right that most people think we’re stacked for general defenders. I’m just not one of them.

I also think we’re pretty stacked for young mids that we’re not certain on yet with the list I provided. It’s why I wouldn’t want to spend a pick in the 20’s on one unless they have a point of difference.

I’d be happy with one at 16 if it’s a slider that’s well rated, otherwise I’d be keen on the smaller types being those that can play at half back or forward.


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Only my read between the lines, but I think that’s an issue with this draft. The blessing for me is the list is now at a point where we’ve cleansed the majority of cloggers so we can just consider who has the most potential to have a career at the top level regardless of role. I just think that more often than not that’s mids that can be re-deployed (every single one of our best 22 options started life as a midfield prospect). For me it then leaves my weightings going a different way on Cowan, but I’d be happy if we called his name because there’s something there, IMO.

 

[sideswipe]

Plus you'd wonder why they're doing the Murley delist/rookie trick rather than just leaving him as is and leaving the 4th vacancy as a rookie spot.

I reckon we're either using 4 picks or picking up a sneaky DFA and using 3. Sydney Stack gets my vote

Its not a massive thing, but don't you get a slight bit of cap relief by having a full rookie roster with any vacancy on the main list? To take advantage of the base rookie pays not going to TPP?

They need to sack the Cat A rookies altogether.

 

[KJpie]

Yeah definitely understand the reservations. Making a large assumption that Fly knows something is there and can hug it out of him. Feels like someone who can defend smalls wouldn't be the worst thing for our list

It's worth noting he turned up badly unfit for training this year in what was his last contracted year.

Concerns from posters on Stack:

To be honest, everyone is looking for a reason as to why SS was delisted...
But at the end of the day, he had 4 years on the list to transition into a professional footballer, and he didn't, so this falls solely on SS's shoulders.

The worst thing the club could do is to carry him through another season of unprofessionalism.

He was given so many chances to show he could be an AFL footballer but was either too lazy or uncommitted to do the hard yards.

I look at all the chances Stacky got and shake my head, I'd be telling Sydney that if he wants another chance, he plays VFL football on an AFL supplied fitness program and prove he will do what it takes to get back onto an AFL list, with his career hanging in the balance.

Stack had all the chances he could have asked for and Richmond did all they could to get him to get the best out of himself
Kid just is not upto putting in the hard work required

If he'd done enough hard work we would have upgraded him. I'm disappointed but it's on him. He ran out of chances.

 

[No SPIN]

I like James Van Es for a tall back, bigger body than Lewis Hayes and a beautiful kick of the ball.

I asked Knightmare if it is possible that Van Es turns out to be the better player.

Quote, "I'm not predicting it, but it can't be ruled out. Van Es is the stronger 1v1, better stopper and better aerially. Is a good kick in his own right and also can also take intercept marks. Hayes of the pair is more the upside pick with even better rebounding/intercepting."

Van Es also had 3 Top 10’s at the combine - obviously a very good athlete.

2022 AFL Draft Combine Test Results

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[RobJD]

I don't watch Hawk games, dislike them with a passion
Thought he's cooked???

Yes, I thought he looked pretty well done by the end of the season - wondered if that was more emotional than physical. Bit of a thought bubble really, that said, there's a big difference being recruited to play 5-10 AFL games and act as a mentor to the developing mid-fielders in the VFL than it is leading a club through a year where they struggled. Seems to fit the mould as the type of ruckman that we'd be looking for, competitive in the ruck and an exceptional contested mark - can also pinch-hit as a backman and a forward. There's links to Wright and Titch too.

 

[RobJD]

Naismith? Would need a medical to prove he was actually capable of taking the field again, but would be a decent ruck depth option if his body decided to give him a chance

Naismith is a big risk as I see it, an injury prone back-up is really rolling the dice - McEvoy had a much more consistent record of getting on the park and we'd only need him for as little as one year.

 

[Mick F]

Yes, I thought he looked pretty well done by the end of the season - wondered if that was more emotional than physical. Bit of a thought bubble really, that said, there's a big difference being recruited to play 5-10 AFL games and act as a mentor to the developing mid-fielders in the VFL than it is leading a club through a year where they struggled. Seems to fit the mould as the type of ruckman that we'd be looking for, competitive in the ruck and an exceptional contested mark - can also pinch-hit as a backman and a forward. There's links to Wright and Titch too.

He is 33. Is he a significant upgrade on Cox?

 

[Lings of Geelong]

Its not a massive thing, but don't you get a slight bit of cap relief by having a full rookie roster with any vacancy on the main list? To take advantage of the base rookie pays not going to TPP?

They need to sack the Cat A rookies altogether.

Agreed, the whole rookie thing needs to go, or at least given a massive revamp.

I guess my point was we'll end up with a full contingent of rookies (and therefore the full cap benefit) either way, so if the intent is to sign a ruck as an SSP rookie why not leave Murley on the main list as opposed to having to upgrade Ginnivan earlier than we have to to free up that rookie spot.

 

[legendstatus]

Van Es also had 3 Top 10’s at the combine - obviously a very good athlete.

2022 AFL Draft Combine Test Results

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Not bad highlights but I always think what’s the knock given name hasn’t popped up on most top 40 picks

Looks very good though


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[RobJD]

He is 33. Is he a significant upgrade on Cox?

I'd only suggest McEvoy as a replacement for Cox/Cameron in the event that either went down with injury - more of a stop-gap backup ruckman than a candidate as a permanent member of our best 22.

 

[Rusty Beam]

Unaware of your thoughts, who do you like that you feel may be best available with our 4 picks?

Pick 16 - Hayes is the most logical pick given the predicted top order and assuming no one like Hollands, Hewett etc falls. I still wouldn’t mind reaching for Keeler here.

Pick 25 and 27 - Any of Keeler, Charlie Clarke, Mitch Szybkowski, Harry Barnett, Lachie Cowan, and possibly Brayden George.

I’d also strongly consider Lemmey specifically at pick 27 depending on who we have selected with our first two picks.

If the club can walk away with two promising talls (Hayes, Barnett, Keeler or Lemmey) and a one of the others (Cowan, George, Clark, Szybkowski), I would be stoked.

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[cityslick1]

I meant Sier. I wouldn't have called Ben Kennedy a risk - he came with as good a junior pedigree as you're ever going to get at the stage of the draft he was selected.

Fair enough, and he prob isn’t a smoker. Was guessing. Def a skater.

You live and die by your results though, and whilst this draft was v shallow, BenKen was sadly a fail. Couldn’t hit passes from 20m, and being 5’ 9” didn’t help, despite the hope of being the next crawf

 

[cityslick1]

Wouldn’t be upset if the club goes George at first pick. Though prefer second. Year 1 means nothing unless you’re Nick discos.

Bigger risk is that he just becoming a star as an alternative pick 16 is on the cusp of being delisted…

All comes down to how bad the knee is

 

[cityslick1]

Not bad highlights but I always think what’s the knock given name hasn’t popped up on most top 40 picks

Looks very good though


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Funny kicking style, not an amazing reader of the play, and Doesn’t play like his combine results suggest. So either he’s developed athletically for the combine (reach), doesn’t know how to fully use his strengths in games (possible), or has a lot of upside due to his athletic traits (also possible).

Still can’t believe the vertical jump and sprint results, as he looks heavy and a bit lumbering in highlights

 

[Jen2310]

TALL MID WOULD BE ‘GOOD FIT’ FOR PIES

Collingwood is keeping close tabs on Dandenong Stringrays ball-winner Henry Hustwaite, who shapes as a potential first-round draft pick.

A 194cm midfielder who has some similar traits to Scott Pendlebury

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Scott Pendlebury

Age

37

Ht

191cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.5

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.9

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.6

4star

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

, Hustwaite has links to the Magpies as the brother of Collingwood VFL co-captain Campbell.

“He’s one the last couple of years that has come from nowhere with a growth spurt and he’s learned to play inside mid and down back,” Stingrays coach Nick Cox said.

“He doesn’t have the power and the numbers running-wise as what some of the others do, but he just keeps finding the ball and uses it really well, particularly with his hands.”

Hustwaite impressed across four games for Vic Country in the under-18 national championships, averaging 20.8 disposals and 97 ranking points.

“He would be a good fit for Collingwood,” one opposition club recruiter said.

“He’s not overly quick but he’s got classy hands that can release from stoppage and the Pies have got enough running power on the outside now.

“It just makes sense.”

Collingwood currently holds picks 16, 25, 27 and 51 in this year’s draft.

Draft Intel: The midfielder who ‘makes sense’ for Magpies

Less than four weeks remain until the AFL National Draft.

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[SchuPie]

“He would be a good fit for Collingwood,” one opposition club recruiter said.

So…who do they not want us to pick….?

 

[TradeDraft]

Draft Intel: The midfielder who ‘makes sense’ for Magpies

Less than four weeks remain until the AFL National Draft.

www.codesports.com.au

That the Guy I think we are Most Keen on at Pick 16

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[Harry O]

“He would be a good fit for Collingwood,” one opposition club recruiter said.

So…who do they not want us to pick….?

Correct. Always be suspect of that comment. Big reach to take him top 20

 

[manicpie]

Wouldn’t be upset if the club goes George at first pick. Though prefer second. Year 1 means nothing unless you’re Nick discos.

Bigger risk is that he just becoming a star as an alternative pick 16 is on the cusp of being delisted…

All comes down to how bad the knee is

Why would you risk your first pick on a 186cm HFF, especially one that will miss the whole of next year.

 

[Anzacday]

Reminds me of Ollie Henry with tackling pressure.

 

[Apex36]

“He would be a good fit for Collingwood,” one opposition club recruiter said.

So…who do they not want us to pick….?

Exactly what I was thinking lol.

 

[KinderSmock]

AFL Phantom Draft 2022: Clubs battle for the land's best football talent | Sporting News Australia

We take a punt at predicting the top 20 selections in the upcoming 2022 AFL Draft.

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Very strange phantom draft. Has us taking Max Gruzewski in the first round and Hayes going higher than Tsatas!