List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and Trading Thread - Part 2
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hes also 6 years older so thats not a comparison
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Hope so, being mates he’s sure to send some my way
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With Luke Brown, do people think:
1. He was past it & decided to pull up stumps
2. He wasn't past it, but the Club wanted Parnell to play ASAP
IMO early season form, was the Brown of old .....injuries cruelled him ....but whose call was it really ?
1. He was past it & decided to pull up stumps
2. He wasn't past it, but the Club wanted Parnell to play ASAP
IMO early season form, was the Brown of old .....injuries cruelled him ....but whose call was it really ?
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1. He was past it & decided to pull up stumps
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A bit of both I think. He was probably told at EOY that he’d be playing a fair bit of SANFL in 2023 (possibly as an encouragement to move on and free up the list).
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Yesterday's man, he was past it so the club told him to pull up stumps now in order to create a warm and fuzzy feelgood story ending rather than the sad and ugly banished to the SANFL then delisted ending. Suitable cash has changed hands to make this happen smoothly.
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I dont think he won lotto he said he was sick of being abused for having an opinion and gave up...
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Injured at the wrong time and smart enough to read the writing on the wall.
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The issue with McAsey is that his fitness is only a 1/10. Needs to get to a 4/10 in the offseason and hopefully he can jump that suddenly to an 8/10 in the SANFL mid-season.
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Did lol
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Post of the year, but you did miss the SOB insult
The clear distinction between his first half of the year and second half was work rate. It could have been a combination of improved fitness and improving game sense. The foundation of his fitness was built in preseason but clearly something shifted.
I don’t think that’s true. He was covering ground and working plenty hard in the first half.
If anything he was perhaps covering too much ground trying to make position instead of being more disciplined in sticking to structure and area
The frustration was that he never seemed to be in the right place, and I contend that he was trying too hard and roaming too far and wide.
What he started to add in the 2nd half, and perhaps we should credit coaching, was a lot more craft
Anyone catch Malcolm Blights interview with Damian Barrett on the Centurions podcast? He spoke about one game where he just wasn't finding himself in the right position, and then realised the full back was punching/spoiling left handed, which was sending the ball in the opposite direction to what he was expecting. He said that was a bit of an epiphany for him. Maybe some little things like that clicked for Fog too.
1.5. Maybe wanted to keep going and see if he could get past injury but club had cover and needed list spot. Given his run of injury over last 3 or so years, I doubt he’d have needed much convincing to accept the balance of his full contract and move onto the next phase of his life.
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There is a former Top 5 pic, and former Seaton Rambler, W/WT player just been delisted by North Melbourne … but he’s only a 1/10 fitness… Jared Polec..
Is there a spot….. at the Ramblers?
Is there a spot….. at the Ramblers?
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On Monty Python’s, The Meaning Of Life… the doctor’s advice to the bloke who had lost a leg to a tiger was
“If you’re playing football, favour the other leg..”
Something I've been pondering.
What should be year 1 of your rebuild?
In any rebuild it's unlikely you'll have your youngest team in year 1.
We look like it will either be last year or this year.
So should you expect your worst results to come with the least experienced team? I would expect it.
So then did you call year 1 of the rebuild the least experience year, or if not do you expect your results from yr 1 to say 4 to drop down and then go up?
What should be year 1 of your rebuild?
In any rebuild it's unlikely you'll have your youngest team in year 1.
We look like it will either be last year or this year.
So should you expect your worst results to come with the least experienced team? I would expect it.
So then did you call year 1 of the rebuild the least experience year, or if not do you expect your results from yr 1 to say 4 to drop down and then go up?
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Long Term Contract management.
Identify who you see as vital in 3 years time , those you see as potential and those you deem superfluous. Every contract decision should be geared towards managing that .
If that means some leave for greener pastures then so be it. You will take the same downward hit either way. But you should be better off in the long term.
It also means you need to impress on your scouting team the importance of getting each pick close to right, identify trends before they happen - not reactive ( I feel we spent 5 years reacting to Richmonds mosquito forwards when our coaching group wasnt capable) ie I believe the game requires speed- speed of thought and ball movement.
Coaching and recruiting must be aligned to maximising these 2 traits.
You must be ruthless , you must have man conversations with some players and you must impress upon each recruit that they are a part of something until they are not. You cannot over promise but you must communicate
For us, I would say that the rebuild began in the 2019 post-season. That would make 2022 the 3rd full year of the rebuild process. Note that it takes most teams around 7 years to return to being contenders, from the start of their rebuild.
You do, however, raise a good point about the time it takes to turnover the list, resulting in the youngest/least experienced teams being fielded around years 2-4 of the rebuild.
Adelaide will enter 2023 with only 6x 100+ game players - including Crouch & Seedsman, neither of whom are likely to see much (if any) AFL action. It also includes Sloane, who is completely cooked, and coming off a 12-month injury. Make no bones about it, we will still be fielding desperately young & inexperienced teams, every single week, in 2023.
So when should be our weakest year?
Assuming you bring in 4 to 5 best 22 players a year, it's probably year 3 or 4 (2022 & 2023). This is when the senior guys will have largely been moved out and the up and coming players are only 1 to 4 pre seasons in.
But you probably only start a rebuild if your existing team is rubbish. So the quality of the kids coming in are hopefully better than the bulk of the senior players going out.
Theoretically, you could argue for anywhere in 2021-2023 being our weakest year. 2024 is the year when we should expect to see significant improvement, and we should (hopefully) make the bottom of the 8 in 2025.
We did win 1 more game this year (compared with 2021), but 4 of those 8 wins were against the Weagles & Norf, who were historically awful and won only 2 games each for the entire year (one of which was North defeating West Coast). There's a reasonable argument that this inflated our 2022 position, and this was the year where we actually hit bottom.
It's pretty rare for a club to bring in 4-5 best 22 players in a single year. If you find 2-3, then that's generally regarded as a good year.
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