List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[Mutineer]

Strachan would allow them to not play Stanley and move Blicavs to another role.

I know you don't rate Strachan - it's a strange blind spot for you. I'd pesonally be very supportive of us moving on O'Brien and letting Strachan take the reins for a couple of years.

No blind spot at all, Strachan is very good at a SANFL level pretty much bereft of any semblance of ruckmen with AFL attributes talent wise.

Strachan is excellent depth when it comes to AFL.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

ROB seems to only play well now when his spot is threatened

Was woeful on the weekend. Dropped a bunch of marks he'd usually swallow

 

[1990crow]

ROB seems to only play well now when his spot is threatened

Was woeful on the weekend. Dropped a bunch of marks he'd usually swallow

It's actually impressive he is dropping pretty much everything he is in prime position to take under little pressure.

 

[glengowan]

ROB seems to only play well now when his spot is threatened

Was woeful on the weekend. Dropped a bunch of marks he'd usually swallow

When he drops them, they generally land right at his feet after he gets both arms up, gets hands behind the ball, but unable to take it cleanly. It often results in a goal to the opposition as generally that's where the good small forwards are, ready to capitalise. If he decided to punch - you'd imagine he'd get good purchase on the ball and because his hands are usually first there, he could get it out of dangers way, but he never does. OR, we could use him forward more, and give our small forwards a chance, as he generally goes about the ball the same way, wherever he is on the ground.

I am looking forward to what promises to be more Thilthorpe in Ruck and more ROB forward for the remainder of the season as I think that is a better mix for both players and the team.

I also hope we land Keeler or Barnett in the Draft (not at the expense of a gun mid) for a few years time. Maybe one of those will be available for a 2nd pick this year.

 

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This is quite a good read and I agreed with a fair bit of it

Not Munkara , Broadbent so much

I’d have Jefferson and Jakob Ryan higher

Interesting take on Keeler , and he doesn’t look overweight in the photo taken just 3 weeks ago to me ! Looks skinny even

So many SA players in this set of rankings and we only have two picks. Surely we use pick 3 of Philipou?

Need to think clevery and see if we can move picks from 2023 into this year. Drafdting SA talent means we don't have the go home fear when the rebuild drags on for a number of seasons.

 

[glengowan]

So many SA players in this set of rankings and we only have two picks. Surely we use pick 3 of Philipou?

Need to think clevery and see if we can move picks from 2023 into this year. Drafdting SA talent means we don't have the go home fear when the rebuild drags on for a number of seasons.

Post 2 of this thread, summed it up. "we need mids with x-factor through this draft". The only thing that could've been added to that is mids with x-factor with some size on them. Phillipou looks to have all that covered. Plus he's a South Australian and a name which has footy heritage in this state. We'd want a very good and very loyal type from interstate, to not pick him! Or JHF.

 

[skittlebrew]

Why the Blues are out of the race for key Port free agent

Carlton have pulled out of the race for Port Adelaide free agent Karl Amon, instead focussing on the draft and retaining key players.

www.theage.com.au

I take it Sholl will be back on their radar then

 

[GROTTO]

Why the Blues are out of the race for key Port free agent

Carlton have pulled out of the race for Port Adelaide free agent Karl Amon, instead focussing on the draft and retaining key players.

www.theage.com.au

I take it Sholl will be back on their radar then

I thought I heard that Sholl is all but set to join the Blues next year?

 

[Ramify]

Soligo is nothing like McIntosh.

Howso?
Not a Macca clone but plenty of similarities. Was the first player to jump into my head after watching his first 2-3 games,and that was before I realised he wore the number 14.

More similarities than differences I reckon and a lot closer to Macca than Pedlar.

 

[skittlebrew]

I thought I heard that Sholl is all but set to join the Blues next year?

Yeah that's the rumour. But I guess Blues had a crack for Amon re the Voss link.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=NTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ntnews.com.au%2Fsport%2Flist-analysis-state-of-play-for-adelaides-out-of-contract-players%2Fnews-story%2F2c94321db8da122191a54847c4a39f26&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium

Paywalled article by Matt Turner, who usually gets good mail

Anyone with a Murdoch Press subscription able to summarise?

The article is in regards to who might be re-contracted/delisted at the Crows

 

[George Kramer]

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Paywalled article by Matt Turner, who usually gets good mail

As it’s paywalled why don’t you actually say it’s about?

 

[WeedsMullet84]

As it’s paywalled why don’t you actually say it’s about?

edited

 

[MRB37]

https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=NTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ntnews.com.au%2Fsport%2Flist-analysis-state-of-play-for-adelaides-out-of-contract-players%2Fnews-story%2F2c94321db8da122191a54847c4a39f26&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium

Paywalled article by Matt Turner, who usually gets good mail

Anyone with a Murdoch Press subscription able to summarise?

The article is in regards to who might be re-contracted/delisted at the Crows

Lists Himmelberg, Hinge and Newchurch as likely to re-sign, Scholl and Crouch as trade bait and Borlase, Rowe, Frampton Davis and Turner as questionable to get new deals.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Lists Himmelberg, Hinge and Newchurch as likely to re-sign, Scholl and Crouch as trade bait and Borlase, Rowe, Frampton Davis and Turner as questionable to get new deals.

Hmmm. Himmelberg needs to go too. I’d keep Rowe and Borlase.

 

[MRB37]

Hmmm. Himmelberg needs to go too. I’d keep Rowe and Borlase.

Mentions if they got a good offer they'd consider moving him, but he's still decent depth to have.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Lists Himmelberg, Hinge and Newchurch as likely to re-sign, Scholl and Crouch as trade bait and Borlase, Rowe, Frampton Davis and Turner as questionable to get new deals.

Sounds about right. Turner probably deserves another year on the rookie list to prove himself after a preseason, and maybe Himmelberg gets re-drafted as a rookie

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Mentions if they got a good offer they'd consider moving him, but he's still decent depth to have.

Still a waste of a senior spot though. I'd delist, but re-draft him as a rookie.

 

[1990crow]

Sounds about right. Turner probably deserves another year on the rookie list to prove himself after a preseason, and maybe Himmelberg gets re-drafted as a rookie

I'd say if in the remainder of the season Turner isn't regularly in our best sanfl players I don't see the point in retaining him. He's 25.

 

[MRB37]

I'd say if in the remainder of the season Turner isn't regularly in our best sanfl players I don't see the point in retaining him. He's 25.

I don't think he was drafted with any intention of playing or keeping him. They wanted a SANFL top-up to replace Freeman.

 

[Mutineer]

Hmmm. Himmelberg needs to go too. I’d keep Rowe and Borlase.

He's the only tall forward outside of those playing AFL that has shown anything like AFL ability be it on an inconsistent basis.....He's one injury away from being required IMO.

 

[Thetrader15]

When he drops them, they generally land right at his feet after he gets both arms up, gets hands behind the ball, but unable to take it cleanly. It often results in a goal to the opposition as generally that's where the good small forwards are, ready to capitalise. If he decided to punch - you'd imagine he'd get good purchase on the ball and because his hands are usually first there, he could get it out of dangers way, but he never does. OR, we could use him forward more, and give our small forwards a chance, as he generally goes about the ball the same way, wherever he is on the ground.

I am looking forward to what promises to be more Thilthorpe in Ruck and more ROB forward for the remainder of the season as I think that is a better mix for both players and the team.

I also hope we land Keeler or Barnett in the Draft (not at the expense of a gun mid) for a few years time. Maybe one of those will be available for a 2nd pick this year.

The idea of ROB punching the ball a long way sounds good in theory, but our mids are so inside that there is a wall of opposition 15m away from the contest facing goal, ready to pounce. It happens week after week, Oliver did it about 5 times the other week. It's so obvious, I don't know why someone in the coaches box / on field hasn't noticed it.

 

[Thetrader15]

He's the omly tall forward outside of those playing AFL that has shown anything like AFL ability be it on an inconsistent basis.....He's one injury away from being required IMO.

You're right, but the odds of him becoming more consistent after 7 years on the list are almost zero (happy to be wrong).

I'd prefer we went with Worrell or McAsey in that role if an injury occurs, let's see what they can do, at least there's a little bit of hope.

 

[jackster83]

He's the omly tall forward outside of those playing AFL that has shown anything like AFL ability be it on an inconsistent basis.....He's one injury away from being required IMO.

Might depend on who we plan on drafting. If we pick a Keeler/Lemmey type, then that SANFL forward line looks pretty crowded.

 

[Disco Fox]

So many SA players in this set of rankings and we only have two picks. Surely we use pick 3 of Philipou?

Need to think clevery and see if we can move picks from 2023 into this year. Drafdting SA talent means we don't have the go home fear when the rebuild drags on for a number of seasons.

Different rankings have varied views on Phillipou's kicking skills. I'd be interested in what people on here think, if they've watched him play. Cam MacKenzie is rocketing up the draft rankings. He's 187cm, fast & has high level foot skills. We MUST get a mid with our first pick who is superb by foot & preferably not another 181cm lad. The other highly skilled outside mid is Tsatas - highly skilled, tall & fast. Needs to work on his defensive game.
There is talk that both North & Eagles may go for a KPP or will grab Wardlaw, but he is an inside mid, so either way it's a smorgasboard of mids with varying strengths for Crows to select from. Clark, Hewett even Sheezel. Please get it right Hamish!!