List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading

[Danger in Texas]

The top 5 most efficient players who attended an average of 10 or more CBAs per game:

Dylan Shiel (15.2 CBAs) – 19%
Luke Parker (10.0 CBAs) – 17.5%
Jason Horne-Francis (14.2 CBAs) – 17.3%
James Peatling (12.2 CBAs) – 15.1%
Nick Daicos (21.0 CBAs) – 14.5%

Wish we were into Peatling, he’ll shine at a new club with a bigger role

 

[Carmo]

I see I continue to live rent free..

Nice.

Yeah, Keays is paying the same price to live in your place though...

 

[Sizzlepack]

Wish we were into Peatling, he’ll shine at a new club with a bigger role

No chance we'd get him, the queue of clubs vying for him is way too long now. Plus he's said he'd prefer to stay.

 

[Mutineer]

The top 5 most efficient players who attended an average of 10 or more CBAs per game:

Dylan Shiel (15.2 CBAs) – 19%
Luke Parker (10.0 CBAs) – 17.5%
Jason Horne-Francis (14.2 CBAs) – 17.3%
James Peatling (12.2 CBAs) – 15.1%
Nick Daicos (21.0 CBAs) – 14.5%

Matt Crouch (18.2 CBAs) - 14.3% our best.

 

[Mutineer]

And I might add the more centre bounces the player attends the likelihood their percentage would worsen?

 

[1990crow]

And I might add the more centre bounces the player attends the likelihood their percentage would worsen?

Theoretically.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Matt Crouch (18.2 CBAs) - 14.3% our best.

Do you have Laird?

 

[Mutineer]

Do you have Laird?

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[Kane McGoodwin]

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I can't see the equivalent stat?

 

[Danger in Texas]

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13.6 to 12.2. Certainly a sizeable drop off

 

[Danger in Texas]

I can't see the equivalent stat?

CC/CBA in clearances category

 

[Mutineer]

I can't see the equivalent stat?

Use the slider at the bottom then under clearances.

 

[Scorpus]

There's a reason why his name has an * next to it, which is explained in small print at the bottom.

Both Keays & Michalanney attended less than 10% of all centre bounces, so their numbers are coming from a very small sample size - and may not be statistically reliable. Most lists of this nature filter out the outliers like these, by applying a minimum number of CBAs to qualify.

Mind you, I'm all for having a go at BC over their irrational hatred of Keays.

** Keays had 8 Centre Clearances for the entire 2024 season. That ranks him equal 145th across the whole AFL.

Seems a very unreliable stat. He had 20 total CBAs and in those matches where he had a CBA he had just 3 center clerances

Which is 15% efficiency not 40%

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Seems a very unreliable stat. He had 20 total CBAs and in those matches where he had a CBA he had just 3 center clerances

Which is 15% efficiency not 40%

Keays turned 1 game where we through him in the middle.

I have no issue using him in the middle when others are having a bad day.

We should be using deeper midfield rotations.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Seems a very unreliable stat. He had 20 total CBAs and in those matches where he had a CBA he had just 3 center clerances

Which is 15% efficiency not 40%

Wait, so he had 3 or 8 total CC’s?

Cause 8/20 = 40%

 

[Scorpus]

Wait, so he had 3 or 8 total CC’s?

Cause 8/20 = 40%

He had 8 in the entire year but only 3 in games where he actually got a CBA.

5 in games with 0 total CBAs

 

[Vader]

And I might add the more centre bounces the player attends the likelihood their percentage would worsen?

It would tend towards the mean, rather than being unduly affected by a few statistical outliers.

 

[Vader]

He had 8 in the entire year but only 3 in games where he actually got a CBA.

5 in games with 0 total CBAs

So presumably he ran in off the wing, or from in front of the square, and affected the clearance, without having been present at the CB.

 

[Vader]

Wait, so he had 3 or 8 total CC’s?

Cause 8/20 = 40%

The AFL stats page credits him with 8 CCs. The graphic stated that he had a 40% clearance rate. I put the two stats together, coming up with 20 CBAs.

It turns out that many of his CCs were achieved without a corresponding CBA, so my figure of 20 is incorrect.

 

[Scorpus]

The AFL stats page credits him with 8 CCs. The graphic stated that he had a 40% clearance rate. I put the two stats together, coming up with 20 CBAs.

It turns out that many of his CCs were achieved without a corresponding CBA, so my figure of 20 is incorrect.

No he did actually attend 20 CBAs total, but only in 4 games. Had 8 CCs, but only 3 in those 4 games

 

[NTRabbit]

Bailey Smith has requested a trade. Too bad we'd be no chance.

Adelaide is too far west. The Bulldogs aren't far enough west.

 

[Vader]

No he did actually attend 20 CBAs total, but only in 4 games. Had 8 CCs, but only 3 in those 4 games

Either way, it's largely a coincidence that the numbers stack up, given that many of his CCs are from clearances where he didn't have a CBA.

 

[40porpoise]

I haven't seen Bearded Clam, using his impeccable player judgement, to lambast Ben Keays recently ......could it be he was wrong about being a useless footballer, delist insistent.

We eagerly await his next kiss of death assessment .....will be a Brownlow certainty on Clams performance

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I know I'll get shut down for this but Keays should play more burst roles in the midfield next year when we need a spark. He should NOT be a starting mid, but when we're desperate for pressure and effort no one does it better

 

[kirky]

Just on player ratings, why would you sign him up for another year - his worst performance in his career - 6.71. I'll be truly pissed off if he is in our first game team in 2025.

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[FR0GGY]

Yes, you can find it on Wheelo.

Keays is #1 league-wide by a significant distance. Rest of the top 10:

Tyler Brockman – 30.4%
Rhylee West – 25%
Marlion Pickett – 22.2%
Finlay Macrae – 22.2%
Bailey Humphrey – 22%
Pat Lipinski – 21.9%
Josh Daicos – 21.9%
Steele Sidebottom – 19.4%
Ben Hobbs – 19%

Looks like it's pretty skewed towards those that don't spend much time in there.
Pretty hard to keep up a good average.