List Mgmt. 2022 List Management: Draft, Trade and FA Pt2: Electric Boogaloo

[GingerDocker]

No wouldn't be happy, but it would make me question our list management and player development that he became a potential trade target.

I have the same questions with Logue:

• Why wasn't he contracted earlier in the year? To me it tells the player we are not fully committed to him (and perhaps we weren't).
• Why, after advertising that we would put players in the positions they perform best in, do we suddenly ride a different horse with a player and expect anything less than him looking for a trade?

I think the club has been quite happy to consider all of the players considering moving as trade bait. No point having a go at the likes of Lobb, Acres, Logue or Meek. Or even Young.

The club has a major role in all of this. It's a long way from the situation with Neale or Weller where the club was wrong footed.

There's a lot of good stuff here.

Logue is leaving for a discounted price because the club hadn't valued him highly enough...end of story.

That's not criticism, as all clubs need to navigate the wilds of player movement, the salary cap and the psyches of professional athletes. It's just that, in this case, the timing of Logue's form resurgence and the fact we had been willing to let him drift into a a contract year, has conspired to a point where we are currently looking like getting a lot less for him than we would have liked.

That's on us. Not Logue, not the AFL, not North Melbourne, not Colin Young or any other bit part player in this drama.

Anytime a club lets a player enter the final year of their contract they are rolling the dice.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

 

[Grape Bear]

All this talk about Caleb being in the last year of his contract next year and could be trade baot is making me nervous. Surely with all the cap space we now have the club will try to lock him away in the off season?

 

[JammoMonty]

All this talk about Caleb being in the last year of his contract next year and could be trade baot is making me nervous. Surely with all the cap space we now have the club will try to lock him away in the off season?

Not going anywhere

 

[s_wd6]

All this talk about Caleb being in the last year of his contract next year and could be trade baot is making me nervous. Surely with all the cap space we now have the club will try to lock him away in the off season?

**** you lot are impatient. When brayshaw was at the same point in his career his extension was announced mid December. At least wait until the end of the year before stressing. Still have a whole trade period to get through.

 

[Paracleet]

Freo hub on Insta running with it.

Perhaps they should have Googled his name before running it: He signed a two year contract less than a month ago.

 

[mike91]

Not concerned about Andy or Serong ever leaving this club.

 

[GingerDocker]

Not concerned about Andy or Serong ever leaving this club.

I agree, but I would have said the same about Griff 12 months ago.

 

[Outshined]

This club is ****ed.

Missing out on Heppell again is amateur hour.

 

[Purple Suit]

Honestly, if that's the way it lands then whatever.

It just goes to show that if it eventuates hes not the guy we all seemed to think he is and as a club we are better without him.

Not sure how it could end up that way. Logue is their best target, they have a priority F2 that they have to trade. We get that at minimum.

Although it would be pretty funny if they traded it to Saints for Hill and they pay half of his contract. I would have thought North could eat that whole contract so hence why they get him for not much.

 

[Paracleet]

I agree, but I would have said the same about Griff 12 months ago.

Difference nobody is going to be offering Caleb materially more money than we would be prepared to: He's an automatic starter in his position: A star. If he leaves it will because he doesn't want to be here, not because he was prised out with a Godfather.

 

[Taylor]

Difference nobody is going to be offering Caleb materially more money than we would be prepared to: He's an automatic starter in his position: A star. If he leaves it will because he doesn't want to be here, not because he was prised out with a Godfather.

I disagree. I think a club could offer Caleb Serong far more than Fremantle could. There are clubs finding almost a million dollars a season now for players, if one of the clubs losing a couple of those players in a season turns it's sights on Serong he could have $1.8m dollars in a year offered to him up front.

 

[Kram]

Not Scottish enough.

Angus, Andrew and Andreas....?

 

[Quazar]

There's talk NM will use that F2 on Hunter Clark

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Hunter Clark

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

.

So if that's right, not sure where that leaves their interest and expectancy with Griffin Logue

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Griffin Logue

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

115.4

2star

D

9.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

2star

MG

115.4

2star

D

9.8

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

115.4

2star

(??). Shaping up to cause some serious dis-contempt this trade period, think there could be some VERY angry Freo fans during it.

P.S. not trying to stoke some already volatile fires, just looks increasingly likely we'll get shafted again

 

[Wabjub]

Caleb wont leave, he is a certified star midfielder and we will pay him what he wants. Same as Andy, Chapman and dare I say Young.

The difference with saying Logue would never leave wasn't because he was a star and worth the money, he was just a clubman who we didn't really think another club would go for. He slowly failed to lock down a position and eventually was excess to requirements.

Did I think he would leave, I literally didn't even think about it, just not something that crossed my mind as he was part of the club. But am I surprised he's leaving, no.

 

[AstonSouffle]

Eh - we know Logue is 'okay' at being a forward, and there was times this year where even in the backline there were times we thought he wasn't with it.

Fantastic athelte, cannot fault him there ever - but his decision making? Bloke would never be able to thread a ball into a moving car window even if there was no one else on the field / limited pressure on him and he's still prone to kicking straight back to the opposition.

We know what Freo are trying to do, and I genuinely think we're already flirting with two flour bag kickers too many in Cox and Ryan - add Logue to that?

Plus my wife who because she doesn't get down in the detail like I do is rather adept and calling things for what they are, and she's been fairly blunt that Freo aren't actually losing their best players so I need to stop having a massive cry about it - it's not Serong or Brayshaw is it?

 

[eastfreo75]

This club is *ed.

Missing out on Heppell again is amateur hour.

No refunds on Royal Perth Golf club memberships.

 

[Purpleheart_56]

Probably depth early on, but I rate him, offers something the forward line doesn’t have.
Good cover if Switta misses and glass half full approach could be the Walters replacement.

You don't know, He is 193cm?

 

[Taylor]

You don't know, He is 193cm?

Jai Serong is, yes.

He has Calebs clean hands, is a very good mark at full stretch but isn't speedy.

 

[Freoforever86]

There's talk NM will use that F2 on Hunter Clark.

So if that's right, not sure where that leaves their interest and expectancy with Griffin Logue (??). Shaping up to cause some serious dis-contempt this trade period, think there could be some VERY angry Freo fans during it.

P.S. not trying to stoke some already volatile fires, just looks increasingly likely we'll get shafted again

That’s Sam Edmonds theory.

Takes no account of Logue saying he wants a fair trade

 

[Dayts]

You don't know, He is 193cm?

We’re discussing Brockman here

 

[freo1997]

That’s Sam Edmonds theory.

Takes no account of Logue saying he wants a fair trade

Logue is the sharpest tool in the shed. They could pull wool over his eyes like they did with GC with greenwood.

 

[freo1997]

We’re discussing Brockman here

He’s 181.

 

[nurries]

That’s Sam Edmonds theory.

Takes no account of Logue saying he wants a fair trade

Edmunds also using Hackdorns Meek has 8 clubs after him

 

[Purple Suit]

Edmunds also using Hackdorns Meek has 8 clubs after him

 

[Auskick]

Our best win for the year is still beating the Cats in Geelong.
Interesting that team consists of Logue, Lobb, Meek, Tucker Acres and Meek.
No Darcy, Tabs, Fyfe and for all the worry on here, Treacy.
Adding Jackson, Amiss, and Sturt should better losing Lobb.
I don’t think the forward line will be such an issue.
Meek and Lobb replaced by one player Jackson?
Acres and Logue who replaces them?
Tucker is probably the easiest to cover for.
Think we will Look for another ruck in the drafts/trade.
Fyfe for Mundy.
Really depends on which kids breakout, and our backup talls need to be ready
to contribute.
Who replaces Walters long term?

Treacy played