No one else in the league has that physical presence though. Hawkins is by far the best at forward 50 ruck contests as a key forward.
Lynch, Kings, Naughton, Curnow, McKay, etc - no team has that.
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Lynch, Kings, Naughton, Curnow, McKay, etc - no team has that.
Not sure what the outrage is for?
Anyway, is purple coloured glasses to think that a low scoring team losing their best goal kicker (however meek he may be at times) and a combination of losing depth and not being assured of another good injury run couldn't possibly derail us. It absolutely can.
If I were a betting man, I'd say we'll win between 10 and 17 games with the lower end being if we go back to circa 2016-2020 injury lists.
I agree we are better off long term. Especially Lobb, I wanted to trade him last year before I knew we'd be good this year.
Reckon our midfield in 3-4 years is comfortably as good as theirs or better. Forward line is unlikely to ever be as good on this rebuild unless we convince some top tier KPF to come home/west or it turns out Treacy is a 60 goal forward.
Going at a goal a game in his first two years.
That is the same career average as Rory Lobb.
It took Tabs 5 years to reach the same career goals per games average.
So if you think the a second year player still has "organic" improvement in him, he is projecting to be ebetter than Lobb or Tabs.
It isn’t outrage, I apologise if it came across that way but all this morning I have read negative posts about how shit we are going to be next year. We have a good core group, we are not there yet, we were the youngest in the finals by a substantial margin with Mundy. We need the trade and draft to work for us in the next couple of years to finish off what we have started but I am very confident once the bodies and minds mature in this group we will be there the last week in September.
No way we will do that
Melbourne want a top 10 pick might have too.
Could something like 8 & future 3rd
13 & future 2nd
I agree with that. Have been saying since probably 2017 that I think our best won't be when Fyfe and Sonny are around, which is why I don't chasing Neale or short term trades like that. Also why I was happy to palm off Lobb last year.
I'm bullish for next year, but I think we are going to need some more injury luck and a bit of growth/input from trades (Sharp or whoever we are looking at).
**** I hope they are using lube on us.
Will be picks. Port would be trying to get a pick for Rioli so they don’t have to use one this year
Yes But as a player, At Geelong his role is to mentor the young players that need guidance . It may be just indigenous players but maybe not.
If the pick 8 stuff is true, I am deeply concerned with how reamed we are about to become.
That would be F1 + stuff to get that and then we would use 13 as well. It's overs when he is uncontracted.
That would be F1 + stuff to get that and then we would use 13 as well. It's overs when he is uncontracted.
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Danger could have been cheaper ... he was a Free Agent that Geelong decided to trade for to make sure the deal got done. Smart work, valuing getting the player now over draft picks.
We just simply shouldn't trade Lobb, Tucker or Meek. I can't see what we get out of trading contracted players unless we get over the top offers.
We all talk about the mistake of trading for Hogan (and I know you were way ahead of he curve on that). But the other big mistake that gets overlooked was trading out Neale when we didn't have too.
If we put a stake in the ground and make it clear to the playing group that we don't trade contracted players unless it is absolutely overs, then in a year or so all the "Colin Young" static will go away.
We have all these leaks in the media because we have trained players that if they make noise we will trade them -- even under contract. The way to stop that is to not "give in" to contracted players.
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If we give them pick 8 we’ll get something better back from Melbourne
Could be 8 & future 1st
For Jackson & 32?
They are talking to port I’ve seen on other things
I think a lot of it is recruiting players with the right mindset. nurries is right in that I don't think it hurts to let go those players that might be putting themselves before team success (Lobb, Acres etc). FTR, I don't blame them either, they do what is right by them like anyone does.
I do think we will get overs for the other 3. Hopefully a decent bounty. You can't just go the other way and hold everyone because then you'll have trouble getting players to commit.
I'm confident we are letting the right players go. Just like Neale going SHOULD have been a massive boost for our rebuild. Not going back down that rabbit hole though.
I think we'll have to use F1 to get 8.
8 + 13 for Jackson + something would be my guess.
Who are our SA guys? Aish, Cox, Freddy wouldn't be entertained. And mitch is the only other one? Definitely would be picks only.
Hopefully we’ll get a future 2nd for Logue
I'd say probably because we don't want to waste money on a guy we don't need.
If port trade 8, they probably think they can get the same player at 13,
Think our F1 will end up at Melbourne
Probably our first and an f2 with an f4 coming back.
We’ve done a pick swap like this with them before
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