Unofficial Preview 2022 Mid-Season Rookie Draft

[sr36]

You would think the club will only participate in the draft, if there's someone they feel could come in and play a role. No point just drafting in someone who will be predominantly a VFL player.....

We're unlikely to recruit for the short term and will give them 18 months minimum, so they'll be rookies who will cost a pick in next rookie draft. It's really whether we think what's available is better than what's likely to be available at the end of the year.

 

[35Daicos]

You would think the club will only participate in the draft, if there's someone they feel could come in and play a role. No point just drafting in someone who will be predominantly a VFL player.....

Yes, absolutely. It shouldn't just be taken for granted that we'll have a pick at all (though I suspect we will). We're not going to be taking someone with a view to dumping them in 6 months time, it will only be if we (think we) can get hold of a player who can be a good long-term senior player that we are likely to bother. Any players taken mid-season are going to be left on the list at the end of the season, and having "extra" players on the list (above the standard 42) limits what we can do at the end of the year.

There are some folks here who would probably get excited if e.g. Madgen was ruled out for the rest of the year due to injury, because it would mean we could have a second pick, but I really doubt we'd be interested in doing that! Last year was different (and probably a bit of a one-off) as we left the two rookie list spots vacant (in case we wanted someone in the mid-season draft) after the drafts at the end of 2020.

 

[sr36]

Yes, absolutely. It shouldn't just be taken for granted that we'll have a pick at all (though I suspect we will). We're not going to be taking someone with a view to dumping them in 6 months time, it will only be if we (think we) can get hold of a player who can be a good long-term senior player that we are likely to bother. Any players taken mid-season are going to be left on the list at the end of the season, and having "extra" players on the list (above the standard 42) limits what we can do at the end of the year.

There are some folks here who would probably get excited if e.g. Madgen was ruled out for the rest of the year due to injury, because it would mean we could have a second pick, but I really doubt we'd be interested in doing that! Last year was different (and probably a bit of a one-off) as we left the two rookie list spots vacant (in case we wanted someone in the mid-season draft) after the drafts at the end of 2020.

They cost a rookie list opportunity next year. Baring that in mind, I think we'll go in with a list of players that we're willing to draft, probably a pretty short list and if they're gone, we'll pass.

 

[stormskye]

Gold Coast every chance to pass us prior to the draft. Win today and then likely beat hawks in 2 weeks. We will have around pick 4 I think so surely someone worth grabbing. Plenty of mature agers doing well at afl lvl. Hell, grab Fowler though it’s not the most pressing need

 

[Soups]

I’d be looking at Ballenden or Voss for our pick/s

 

[35Daicos]

I remember the last couple of years clubs very late found a way to get a pick if they wanted one, especially down the bottom.

I'm sure that can happen! Clubs do need to rule a player out for the rest of the year to get a MSD pick, or have a retirement like Richmond did with Caddy, if they didn't go into the season with a vacant list spot, but if there's a player with a rather long-term injury and his club is desperate to have a pick I imagine some would be prepared to write off the player's season. At this stage Essendon don't have a pick, but there's (seemingly) no sign of the unfortunate Michael Hurley playing any time soon, so there has to be a strong chance they will make a move there.

 

[MooreTreloar]

Gold Coast every chance to pass us prior to the draft. Win today and then likely beat hawks in 2 weeks. We will have around pick 4 I think so surely someone worth grabbing. Plenty of mature agers doing well at afl lvl. Hell, grab Fowler though it’s not the most pressing need

There’s a small chance Gold Coast pass us today, they need the next 4 goals.

 

[sr36]

I'm sure that can happen! Clubs do need to rule a player out for the rest of the year to get a MSD pick, or have a retirement like Richmond did with Caddy, if they didn't go into the season with a vacant list spot, but if there's a player with a rather long-term injury and his club is desperate to have a pick I imagine some would be prepared to write off the player's season. At this stage Essendon don't have a pick, but there's (seemingly) no sign of the unfortunate Michael Hurley playing any time soon, so there has to be a strong chance they will make a move there.

If there's someone they rate you'd think wce with pick 1 will find a way to get a pick if they haven't got one already, same with most teams below us. .

 

[The Phantom]

We're unlikely to recruit for the short term and will give them 18 months minimum, so they'll be rookies who will cost a pick in next rookie draft. It's really whether we think what's available is better than what's likely to be available at the end of the year.

I think that there’s an argument to say that if we have a slot or two we really should be picking up players for 6 months to have a look at them. Unless there’s a salary cap issue.

We do crazier things speculatively.
Hello Big Roo.

 

[sr36]

I think that there’s an argument to say that if we have a slot or two we really should be picking up players for 6 months to have a look at them. Unless there’s a salary cap issue.

We do crazier things speculatively.
Hello Big Roo.

Sounds good in theory, but the reality of having a good idea in just 6 months isnt too realistic. At the end of this year, after 24 months at the club, many of our 2020 crop will still have futures that could go either way.

 

[stui magpie]

No one will agree with me but if we were to pick a ruck i'd go for Brayden Crossley. He's one of the best in the VFL and when forward attacks the ball in the air with intent.

Also has some mongrel in him. I'd definitely go there but what's his form like as a forward? Attacking with intent is good but is he catching any of them?

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

We're unlikely to recruit for the short term and will give them 18 months minimum, so they'll be rookies who will cost a pick in next rookie draft. It's really whether we think what's available is better than what's likely to be available at the end of the year.

Well you could have some select a 22 to 24 year old who can play for the next 6 to 8 years eg. Martin at Essendon, or go the other end of spectrum and getting a player to develop. I'm not sure we need another player to develop at this stage. I would like to see a 22 to 24 year old taken, which we really don't have much of on our list....

 

[sr36]

Well you could have some select a 22 to 24 year old who can play for the next 6 to 8 years eg. Martin at Essendon, or go the other end of spectrum and getting a player to develop. I'm not sure we need another player to develop at this stage. I would like to see a 22 to 24 year old taken, which we really don't have much of on our list....

I still think they'd get 18 months, as you wouldn't draft them for the last 3 months of the season. So it's still the same equation in my opinion. Do you rate this guy higher than what's likely to be available in the end of year rookie draft?

 

[anshell]

Obviously a big power forward who can take a contested mark would be ideal,not the thin tweener type that we usually pick.Or I should say Hine picks.We need someone who can come in straight away and make a difference,not someone who is years away from playing.As the old saying goes,tomorrow never comes.

 

[stormskye]

Obviously a big power forward who can take a contested mark would be ideal,not the thin tweener type that we usually pick.Or I should say Hine picks.We need someone who can come in straight away and make a difference,not someone who is years away from playing.As the old saying goes,tomorrow never comes.

We aren’t contending for a few years. We don’t need anyone to come in and make a difference straight away. And going off form, talls take years.

 

[KJpie]

There are some folks here who would probably get excited if e.g. Madgen was ruled out for the rest of the year due to injury, because it would mean we could have a second pick, but I really doubt we'd be interested in doing that!

Injury aside for a second, IIRC Madgen is only on a one year contract as well as turning 30 next year. It's hardly a vote of confidence from the club and he may or may not be offered the same deal moving forward. A long term injury (I hope not for his sake) will not help his cause.
For mine if the right aged player of quality becomes available and we are in the rebuild phase that I think we are then I'm picking said player for the Kruger injury.
Based on where our list is at, if Madge is long term and we can access 2 players of quality then I have no problem with picking 2.
I guess it depends on where one thinks our list is at and how many players move on at years end.
Some years the list changes by 8 or more players and we have some questionable talent, 2020 rookies to consider as previously mentioned as well as an older group of players that will retire in the next 6 - 18 months.
For all we know Fly may wish to sweep a broom thru the place and mould his own team starting from now.

 

[KJpie]

We aren’t contending for a few years. We don’t need anyone to come in and make a difference straight away. And going off form, talls take years.

Ramsden fits that bill Thx

 

[Apex36]

I think that there’s an argument to say that if we have a slot or two we really should be picking up players for 6 months to have a look at them. Unless there’s a salary cap issue.

We do crazier things speculatively.
Hello Big Roo.

You know Roo isn’t actually on our list yet right? It’s hardly crazy to give a speculative kid a scholarship that essentially gifts him to us if he develops in to something worthwhile, that’s just good business.

 

[Jasper84]

Forgive the ignorance but I assume we can't draft Jetta in the MSD?

 

[Apex36]

Forgive the ignorance but I assume we can't draft Jetta in the MSD?

We can if he nominates for it I believe, given he was delisted at the end of last year.

 

[TradeDraft]

Forgive the ignorance but I assume we can't draft Jetta in the MSD?

Nope.

Did not nominate for last years Draft and he is Quite happy being a Coach and playing VFL

 

[KJpie]

Forgive the ignorance but I assume we can't draft Jetta in the MSD?

I was of the understanding that Jetta retired/ "delisted himself" on the 27/9/21 and as such is not eligible.

From below: "For example, a player who retired in 2021 is not able to be selected in the 2022 NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft".

This from Jen this morning, hope it helps

Eligible players include:

A Retired Player and/or a Player who has delisted himself and has not been on an AFL List for one year or more. For example, a player who retired in 2021 is not able to be selected in the 2022 NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft.

 

[35Daicos]

Injury aside for a second, IIRC Madgen is only on a one year contract as well as turning 30 next year. It's hardly a vote of confidence from the club and he may or may not be offered the same deal moving forward. A long term injury (I hope not for his sake) will not help his cause.
For mine if the right aged player of quality becomes available and we are in the rebuild phase that I think we are then I'm picking said player for the Kruger injury.
Based on where our list is at, if Madge is long term and we can access 2 players of quality then I have no problem with picking 2.
I guess it depends on where one thinks our list is at and how many players move on at years end.
Some years the list changes by up to 8 or more players and we have some questionable talent, 2020 rookies to consider as previously mentioned as well as an older group of players that will retire in the next 6 - 18 months.
For all we know Fly may wish to sweep a broom thru the place and mould his own team starting from now.

All of that is quite reasonable, but I just imagine they will be wanting to make only a few moves at the end of the year (maybe not as many as some on here would like!), and wouldn't want their "hands tied" by making too many moves mid-season. We should be a strong chance of getting someone decent with our first pick in the MSD, but I'd be very surprised if we were interested in taking a second pick, even if we somehow ended up being eligible to have one. We're likely to have to move Tom Wilson on to our Primary List at the end of the year (or at least delist him and then pick him up in the Rookie draft), so I don't expect we'd want many more than (the standard) 42 players on our list come season's end.

 

[Harry O]

All of that is quite reasonable, but I just imagine they will be wanting to make only a few moves at the end of the year (maybe not as many as some on here would like!), and wouldn't want their "hands tied" by making too many moves mid-season. We should be a strong chance of getting someone decent with our first pick in the MSD, but I'd be very surprised if we were interested in taking a second pick, even if we somehow ended up being eligible to have one. We're likely to have to move Tom Wilson on to our Primary List at the end of the year (or at least delist him and then pick him up in the Rookie draft), so I don't expect we'd want many more than (the standard) 42 players on our list come season's end.

We need a clean out. No time for conservatism and minimal picks

 

[adge0001]

Hawthorn and Melbourne spent a while at the bottom building the dominant teams of their eras. Did Richmond? I tend to ignore Richmond.


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