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He's worse than Jared "s**t his pants taking a set shot" Petrenko.

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Murphy is symptomatic of where we are currently. He gets a game because our list is terrible.
Petrenko played in the era after our champions retired (Roo, McLeod etc) and were rubbish 2010-2014 with 2012 an outlier).
 

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After being gifted an extended run of poor AFL games wasn't it? Oh no, thinking of someone else.
I’m talking about Strachan.
He’s never had an extended run in the afl.
 

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Hasn't kicked a goal in 4 weeks. Definitely seems to be form at the moment. Kicked 15 in the 7 weeks before that with only one goalless game, and only had 2 goalless games in the first 11.
Plays well, doesn't get selected.
Plays shit, doesn't get selected.

I don't think SANFL form matters much in Newchurch's case. I think Nicks has a type of player he's looking for and Tariek is the antithesis of that.
 
Plays well, doesn't get selected.
Plays s**t, doesn't get selected.

I don't think SANFL form matters much in Newchurch's case. I think Nicks has a type of player he's looking for and Tariek is the antithesis of that.
Nicks (and by extension the AFC) hate any player with a bit of "razzle dazzle".

We prefer the train hard, run in straight lines, play within the structures types.

That's why we won't target a Rankine/Bolton type in the trade period, and why Rachele will sadly end up being a whipping boy within the next two years.
 
Hasn't kicked a goal in 4 weeks. Definitely seems to be form at the moment. Kicked 15 in the 7 weeks before that with only one goalless game, and only had 2 goalless games in the first 11.
Gets talked up - by the club - about getting close then finds out there is more to go

Drops bundle and people justify that for his non-selection
 
With noise around Hopper, JHF and Rankine is there any way to get all three?
Would have to give up this year's first and next year's at very least.

Split 2022 pick for two picks in the 10-15 range and send to GWS and GC for Hopper and Rankine?
2023 first and Doedee for JHF?
At this point I would be happy with one but if we got all three that would be game changing.
 
sorry.. but you clearly dont watch the sanfl games if you think frampton doesnt dominate at that level..

he rarely gets beaten 1v1… and so he shouldnt.. the sanfl is a glorified ammo league these days.. Frampton‘s opponents are shite.

i’m sayimg he never plays AFL for us again unless its a desperate break glass situation.. but one look at our depth of KPD’s tells you that the cupboards bare. if Murray and Butts went down this weekend, say Murray gets a concussion and Butts does a hammy.. were looking at billy and borlase the following week.

thats pretty bleak.

and we certainly aint solving this little problem in one off season.. any draftee KPD will be miles off being ready next season and there aint much around in the way of potential KPD trade options this year.. unless we can somehow steal Cox from Freo (highly unlikely)

i can easily see Billy getting another 1 or 2 year contract at seasons end.. Nicksy rates Billy’s leadership in the SANFL and its not hard to see why.. he’s a general in defense back there…

unfortunately Billy is just one of those lads who cant consistently bring his strong SANFL game with him up to the next level.

He does get beaten one on one, he just doesn't know how to position himself.

I do go to SANFL games, I wouldn't trust him to defend one on one at AFL.

If he can play loosethen he's good.

Your argument is like saying Crouch dominates because he gets 30 possessions.

Neither are in the team.

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It's a list management decision. Nicks might indeed rate Matt and want him to stay (which would explain why he was denying the rumour). If the list managers see value in trading him though, he's gone.
You never get value when you tell the media he’s not required, doesn’t happen
 
You never get value when you tell the media he’s not required, doesn’t happen
I can't recall the last coach to tell the media during the season a player wasn't required...
 
Fans have decided that Murphy is a player that they want to bitch about, but he's obviously doing what the coaching team need from that role better than any alternative because he's first 22. He's not just depth.

Hopefully Rachele replaces him - but he's not getting selected because he's the coaches son. It's because of what he offers in comparison to the other options.

Even the biggest hater could see that Murphy and McHenry place a lot more pressure at the contest than Cook and Sholl do currently.

Is that enough to hold their place in the side? Obviously it is currently, and hopefully that changes as our squad improves.
You are right but it’s because we are playing so defensively, Murphy and McHenry offer little in attack. That creates 2 problems for us, first their direct opponent runs off them and intercepts or creates the play and 2 we are playing almost 2 players down.

If we played a player like Newchurch, he definitely won’t have the defensive pressure but if he kicks a goal or 2, his direct opponent will be wierd of running off not to get scored against.
 
You are right but it’s because we are playing so defensively, Murphy and McHenry offer little in attack. That creates 2 problems for us, first their direct opponent runs off them and intercepts or creates the play and 2 we are playing almost 2 players down.

If we played a player like Newchurch, he definitely won’t have the defensive pressure but if he kicks a goal or 2, his direct opponent will be wierd of running off not to get scored against.

Goal or 2? Murphy kicked 3 last week.


Long odds to do it again. Here's hoping though
 
Obviously but even blind Freddy knows the crows have given up on crouch. Nicks has realised that we can’t play crouch Laird and Keays in the midfield together
Indeed.

Took him a while to come to that realisation.

If he wanted to give Crouch a genuine chance in the middle, he should have played Keays forward or Laird in defence... rather than moving Crouch to a wing, which we all know was pointless!
 

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