Game Day 2022 SC Round 1 - Let's Get Ready To Ramble

[Jiska]

It's that time of the year where we're about to hit crazy season on the board.

In order to keep some order around the place, I've locked all threads except the standard ones that we have during the season - refer #5. Will leave the rate my preseason thread going until final lockout.

Any new threads that don't fit in to the standard structure will likely end up merged with either an existing suitable thread, or the General Chat thread as a catch-all.

Good luck to everyone - this is one of the toughest years to pick a starting side that I can remember.

 

[BOMBERBLITZ]

I'm really struggling with:

Dylan Stephens & Will Brodie

vs

Jake Soligo & Mitch McGovern


Stephens JS doesn't fill me with confidence and I'm worried that Brodie's preseason is a false dawn. Admittedly I didn't follow Soligo during the pre-season so have no idea about his scoring capability or JS, so that's another spanner in the works. And McGovern could be playing a lockdown role tonight if Balta plays forward so might not be getting the intercepts that he did against Melbourne. Although you'd think that Carlton's system should lean itself to him being the interceptor.

I'm leaning towards Soligo & McGovern.

Thoughts?

Dylan Stephens & Will Brodie by a country mile!

McGovern is a potatoe...

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

That also means he is No22 in the team if picked. With Stringer and Snelling missing probably first to be dropped as well. I would prefer Dixon or Hayes at $102k

Gives him a chance to play well and keep his spot though.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Gives him a chance to play well and keep his spot though.

I agree with that but Dixon and Hayes have better JS not sure about scoring probably Hayes will score more

 

[LegendLewis]

can anyone talk up Dyl Stephens for me...was right on him in his draft year but have gone cold on him and he hasn't been in my team once.
Does he have the goods?

 

[A Bit Dusty]

can anyone talk up Dyl Stephens for me...was right on him in his draft year but have gone cold on him and he hasn't been in my team once.
Does he have the goods?

I'm not convinced he will score well enough for the price. He has been in and out of my team for weeks but now there are cheaper rookies coming up you can save $50k by getting a $117k rookie who could score just as well

 

[Kadog]

I'm not convinced he will score well enough for the price. He has been in and out of my team for weeks but now there are cheaper rookies coming up you can save $50k by getting a $117k rookie who could score just as well

The extra premium is for JS. If it fails you have options to downgrade

 

[Souup]

can anyone talk up Dyl Stephens for me...was right on him in his draft year but have gone cold on him and he hasn't been in my team once.
Does he have the goods?

Averaged 18.5 touches at SANFL Seniors level in his draft year from 13 games (104 supercoach)

Then averaged 28.4 touches at VFL level last year from 8 games (82 supercoach)

He's just turned 21 and had a few years in the system, played well in the preseason games.

 

[hoddo]

This debate about whether to have 30 green dots or a dedicated non-playing loophole player surprises me, especially as the majority of posters seem to favour not having a loophole player. Go back a couple of years to when Jiska said he was maximising cash generation by having all 30 playing and he was pretty much a stand alone exception. Things have changed and I really can't understand why. Seems everyone has turned kamikaze.

While I certainly agree that it's extremely foolish of someone during the season to burn a trade to bring in a non-player to take a good score from a benched rookie, that's completely different to having a permanent loophole player. True, having a loophole player takes away one opportunity to generate cash, but most teams will still have 12-14 rookies making the needed money which should be more than enough. On the other hand, not having that loophole player means you're virtually making your vc irrelevant. Those who can't loophole a high scoring vc because they have no loop will be ruing their decision when the captain they've been forced to put their trust in goes off injured in the opening minutes for next to no score - or even if he plays a stinker and scores 60 or 70 points or worse. I still remember the time a few years back when my vc scored almost 200 and I forgot to activate the loop in time and watched my captain score a glorious 38. That scenario will be a weekly risk for those without a loop. Some say the situation will sort itself out because you'll end up with a rookie being dropped most weeks, but I suspect most people who want those 30 green dots are picking players they expect or at least hope will play every week.

I think I'll be including the loophole player. It may be a moot point anyway as there may not be suitable rookies available to give those 30 green dots without compromising your team.

 

[Nelso]

This debate about whether to have 30 green dots or a dedicated non-playing loophole player surprises me, especially as the majority of posters seem to favour not having a loophole player. Go back a couple of years to when Jiska said he was maximising cash generation by having all 30 playing and he was pretty much a stand alone exception. Things have changed and I really can't understand why. Seems everyone has turned kamikaze.

While I certainly agree that it's extremely foolish of someone during the season to burn a trade to bring in a non-player to take a good score from a benched rookie, that's completely different to having a permanent loophole player. True, having a loophole player takes away one opportunity to generate cash, but most teams will still have 12-14 rookies making the needed money which should be more than enough. On the other hand, not having that loophole player means you're virtually making your vc irrelevant. Those who can't loophole a high scoring vc because they have no loop will be ruing their decision when the captain they've been forced to put their trust in goes off injured in the opening minutes for next to no score - or even if he plays a stinker and scores 60 or 70 points or worse. I still remember the time a few years back when my vc scored almost 200 and I forgot to activate the loop in time and watched my captain score a glorious 38. That scenario will be a weekly risk for those without a loop. Some say the situation will sort itself out because you'll end up with a rookie being dropped most weeks, but I suspect most people who want those 30 green dots are picking players they expect or at least hope will play every week.

I think I'll be including the loophole player. It may be a moot point anyway as there may not be suitable rookies available to give those 30 green dots without compromising your team.

I think the argument this season is that you will have plenty of non playing loopholes bob up even if you do have 30 green dots in round one.

Teams are going to be get affected by the Rona and you have to remember most of these rookies have hardly played a game over the last 2 seasons. They are bound to be rested at various times throughout the season.

IMO you are better off working on getting your cash generation ticking over as fast as possible instead of trying to chase points at this early stage.

 

[SavDog23]

just make Balta Perma C, its not that hard folks

 

[mochacinolatte]

This debate about whether to have 30 green dots or a dedicated non-playing loophole player surprises me, especially as the majority of posters seem to favour not having a loophole player. Go back a couple of years to when Jiska said he was maximising cash generation by having all 30 playing and he was pretty much a stand alone exception. Things have changed and I really can't understand why. Seems everyone has turned kamikaze.

While I certainly agree that it's extremely foolish of someone during the season to burn a trade to bring in a non-player to take a good score from a benched rookie, that's completely different to having a permanent loophole player. True, having a loophole player takes away one opportunity to generate cash, but most teams will still have 12-14 rookies making the needed money which should be more than enough. On the other hand, not having that loophole player means you're virtually making your vc irrelevant. Those who can't loophole a high scoring vc because they have no loop will be ruing their decision when the captain they've been forced to put their trust in goes off injured in the opening minutes for next to no score - or even if he plays a stinker and scores 60 or 70 points or worse. I still remember the time a few years back when my vc scored almost 200 and I forgot to activate the loop in time and watched my captain score a glorious 38. That scenario will be a weekly risk for those without a loop. Some say the situation will sort itself out because you'll end up with a rookie being dropped most weeks, but I suspect most people who want those 30 green dots are picking players they expect or at least hope will play every week.

I think I'll be including the loophole player. It may be a moot point anyway as there may not be suitable rookies available to give those 30 green dots without compromising your team.

Traditionally the R3 spot was our main loophole option because we never get a 102k ruck rookie that has potential to make cash hence 29 green dots was easy to digest. I think its generally more unique this year because we are lacking a lot of good rookies hence we see majoritys teams with 200-250k mid pricers. The backline rookies look horrible, midfield we are already paying absurd 170k + rookies and forward line look pretty iffy.

Due to the nature of this year starting team and a lot of questionable JS rookies it isn't a bad idea just to get 30 green dots to maximise cash gen (hardly 102-123k rookies) and hope that the next 2 weeks we will find that loop.

For this week (which is really really unique) I would have taken 130 + vc macrae and do the donut 102k ruck. However some or like myself are banking that Touk Miller will just run amok against a West Coast 2 side and we sort out VC loops next week.

 

[Petrify]

The extra premium is for JS. If it fails you have options to downgrade

Heard from swans fans that his JS is shaky too though

 

[JuddgementDay]

I think the argument this season is that you will have plenty of non playing loopholes bob up even if you do have 30 green dots in round one.

Teams are going to be get affected by the Rona and you have to remember most of these rookies have hardly played a game over the last 2 seasons. They are bound to be rested at various times throughout the season.

IMO you are better off working on getting your cash generation ticking over as fast as possible instead of trying to chase points at this early stage.

If Rona gonna strike teams, I don't think having that dedicate non playing loophole is gonna make a difference.
It's more which team is affected and how many players, mainly SP, are going to miss.

 

[LegendLewis]

Averaged 18.5 touches at SANFL Seniors level in his draft year from 13 games (104 supercoach)

Then averaged 28.4 touches at VFL level last year from 8 games (82 supercoach)

He's just turned 21 and had a few years in the system, played well in the preseason games.

Thank you.
Any idea what SC score he had in the practice match, rather than the aami one?

 

[SELFCONFESDAFLNERD]

Yeah, nah, not a tough call at all IMO but each to their own.

Fair. Different strategies and all

 

[hoddo]

I think the argument this season is that you will have plenty of non playing loopholes bob up even if you do have 30 green dots in round one.

Teams are going to be get affected by the Rona and you have to remember most of these rookies have hardly played a game over the last 2 seasons. They are bound to be rested at various times throughout the season.

IMO you are better off working on getting your cash generation ticking over as fast as possible instead of trying to chase points at this early stage.

Yes, I understand the reasoning. The virus certainly played hell with team selections last year and it could happen again. I'm just concerned that it leaves things up to chance and I'd rather have more control. I don't see having a loophole player to be chasing points - I see it as insurance against a disaster - possibly repeated disasters. I do agree that if someone had decided not to have a loophole but changed their mind because they were tempted by Macrae's score that they would be chasing points.

mochacinolatte Yes I'm tipping Touk to be the top scoring mid this season as long as Witts stays fit. He wasn't far away last year roving to second rate rucks and Witts is great at hitouts to advantage. I can see him constantly feeding the ball to Touk (and Rowell). If I didn't have a loophole player I'd be making Touk captain too.

 

[Kadog]

Heard from swans fans that his JS is shaky too though

I haven’t read anything to suggest that. Obviously form will play a part for any player but at this point, I think he’s one of the stronger candidates JS wise along with JHF Daicos Ward Rachele.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Haven't seen any SC scores for the practice matches, but these are the fantasy scores for every player. Should be some guide at least.

Every player's Fantasy score from the practice matches

Check out every player's score from the nine practice matches

www.afl.com.au

There's a dedicated thread with the SC scores from last weeks match's

 

[Sun of a Biatch]

Thought entering this SuperCoach season was stressful … imagine being Tom Morris right now

 

[mochacinolatte]

Thought entering this SuperCoach season was stressful … imagine being Tom Morris right now

Gives me more reason to hate Tom more.

 

[Hack_Watts]

Possibly the dumbest post of the round

Of course you take Tracs score as captain

FFS

Tell him what you really think...

 

[Hack_Watts]

Thought entering this SuperCoach season was stressful … imagine being Tom Morris right now

Grade A Flog.

 

[Hack_Watts]

Lets face it Petracca's score is going to be irrelevant when Captain Touk is going to score 200+ against a WAFL team on Sunday

No need to be greedy Nelso. 145 is plenty.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Yes I know, but I think they're the AAMI Community games. The question asked and the scores I posted were for the practice matches the week before that.

No ....there were some scores, being taken off the TV ....however the vision in a couple of matches were shocking, and I believe scores were only done for 3 Qtrs of 6 Qtr Trials

So not worth a piece of cocky ****

 

[hoddo]

No ....there were some scores, being taken off the TV ....however the vision in a couple of matches were shocking, and I believe scores were only done for 3 Qtrs of 6 Qtr Trials

So not worth a piece of cocky ****

Okay. I would have thought that seeing a rookie getting a high score even in fantasy was of some value, but you're the boss . Deleted.