List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Harris 10]

Expected remaining career value of Sinn >>>>>> Griffen

Griffen won 2 Bnf’s, an All Australian a club captain, played over 250 games.
Before being crippled with injury he was an absolute star. It’s a high bar you’re setting for Sinn.

 

[King Corey]

EXACTLY.

We have grey upon grey upon more grey.

We’re actually mental for caring.

Yeh like you I am prone to bouts of critical analysis.

We're where all torn (imo) is we love the club, which is a genuine spiritual entity. 150+ years old and built from blood and sweat of the players, supporters and community.

But the club is part of a league, which as of 2022 is just the cold, apathetic marketing arm of various commercial interests. Without the club identities we cling to, the modern day league is about as emotionally and spiritually engaging as checking the air pressure on a tyre. Perhaps less so because there's not even a zen quality to it.

The function of Gold Coast as funnel for draft talent and a permanent fluffer for Geelong, Richmond and Hawthorn just bears it out. It serves no other purpose.

 

[buttox]

I think a top 5 pick needs to involved.
Options I can see are
2 and pick 20ish
3 and pick 18 or 19
4 and pick 15ish
5 and pick 12ish
Best guess

 

[RobZombie]

Sin actually means, without.

Which is apt as we currently do not have him.

I think I’d take 8, 2023 R1 & Sinn.

Only in Spanish. Latin sine, Italian senza, French sans, Portuguese sem.

Sinn in faeroese and Icelandic is “time”. In Gaelic it means “us”.

In time he will be one of us.

 

[shintemaster]

Yeh like I am prone to bouts of critical analysis.

We're where all torn (imo) is we love the club, which is a genuine spiritual entity. 150+ years old and built from blood and sweat of the players, supporters and community.

But the club is part of a league, which as of 2022 is just the cold, apathetic marketing arm of various commercial interests. Without the club identities we cling to, the modern day league is about as emotionally and spiritually engaging as checking the air pressure on a tyre. Perhaps less so because there's not even a zen quality to it.

The function of Gold Coast as funnel for draft talent and a permanent fluffer for Geelong, Richmond and Hawthorn just bears it out. It serves no other purpose.

Amen brother.

I'd drop this sport in seconds without North Melbourne. Wouldn't watch another game in my lifetime.

 

[RobZombie]

I think I’d take 8, 2023 R1 & Sinn.

I’d absolutely take that. Feels like a win. Extras in two first rounds and a good player. Tick.

 

[buttsauce]

What a joke competition!

How do you impose such rubbish on constituents?

Imagine the Premier League, NBA or NFL changing their rules mid-trade because a transfer stinks.

Didnt the NBA block Chris Paul going to the Lakers?

 

[big_e]

Griffen won 2 Bnf’s, an All Australian a club captain, played over 250 games.
Before being crippled with injury he was an absolute star. It’s a high bar you’re setting for Sinn.

Griffen was 28, though. Had a maximum of five years left, and as it turns out, only played three.

Josh Sinn turns 20 in the pre-season, and has a decade or more left in footy.

That's the difference.

 

[Tas]

Didnt the NBA block Chris Paul going to the Lakers?

Yep, because they thought they would be too good.

 

[Bertie22]

Amen brother.

I'd drop this sport in seconds without North Melbourne. Wouldn't watch another game in my lifetime.

Absolutely. Let me on the bus. For the past 10 years I have only ever watched our matches. No interest in anyone else (except perhaps the GF if it's decent.)

 

[Usayed Givashe]

Only in Spanish. Latin sine, Italian senza, French sans, Portuguese sem.

Sinn in faeroese and Icelandic is “time”. In Gaelic it means “us”.

In time he will be one of us.

See, this is why I love you.

We have North, Baseball and useless stats and facts.

Yep, because they thought they would be too good.

I don’t do basketball, but I’ve noticed they’re a well run league and a quality presentation. I’m surprised they’d be this malleable, the seppo’s love a rule almost as much as we do.

Didnt the NBA block Chris Paul going to the Lakers?

No idea. Maybe they were going to be 228% of the salary cap and owe $500m in luxury tax. Who knows?

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

My god Port love a recycled shitman

 

[Roo202]

Amen brother.

I'd drop this sport in seconds without North Melbourne. Wouldn't watch another game in my lifetime.

It is soul destroying to think of the sport without your club in it. My heart breaks for the former South Melbourne and Fitzroy supporters, some may be able to see their old club in the relocated one, but I certainly get it if they can't and to them their club simply is no more. It's one thing I'd draw the line at when giving it to or taking it from opposition fans. Have all the fun you like with losing streaks, players leaving, choking in big games etc etc, but snipes about teams being relocated or folded completely are a step too far for me.

 

[Jasemon]

I’d absolutely take that. Feels like a win. Extras in two first rounds and a good player. Tick.

Personally I’d prefer pick 2 this year and Sinn/Bergman (plus maybe a future 3rd). Port’s future first probably won’t be until around 12-14.

 

[Shinboner1]

My god Port love a recycled shitman

signs of a team falling down the ladder and becoming stagnant.
Happened to carlton, happened to essendon, happened to st kilda and now port.

 

[The Y Factor]

Only 3 senior list spots plus 2 rookie spots left I think. 1, 8, Harvey to come in.

Turner, Walker, Jed and R2 look lkike being delisted.

 

[AnEmptyChair]

Josh Sinn = The Cos & Tan

 

[Rod Stroker]

Welcome to Arden Street Josh Dunkley

5

Josh Dunkley

Age

28

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

, #1 pick in the PSD

 

[SnowRoo]

Josh Sinn = The Cos & Tan

I see what you did there!

Very triggy

 

[giantroo]

Port Adelaide has rejected West Coast’s bid for Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

as the two clubs discuss deals that could ultimately get the Power both Jason Horne-Francis and Junior Rioli.

The Eagles have looked at the Power’s list to try and see if there would be a current player the Power would be willing to give up as part of the deal to send Rioli to Alberton.

It is understood they inquired about Houston, but the answer from the Power was no.

Houston, 25, signed a five-year deal with the Power in March and had a career-best season for Port in 2022, averaging 23 disposals and six marks a game.

Rioli, 27, wants to move to the Power after 51 games for the Eagles.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide/afl-trades-2022-esava-ratugolea-wants-to-join-port-adelaide-from-geelong/news-story/2150aec173abbc361b7fce16f9f26f55

 

[giantroo]

 

[Twangler]

The expression having cake and eating it too is very apt for the port modus operandi of late

 

[Shagga is all Class]

Yeh like you I am prone to bouts of critical analysis.

We're where all torn (imo) is we love the club, which is a genuine spiritual entity. 150+ years old and built from blood and sweat of the players, supporters and community.

But the club is part of a league, which as of 2022 is just the cold, apathetic marketing arm of various commercial interests. Without the club identities we cling to, the modern day league is about as emotionally and spiritually engaging as checking the air pressure on a tyre. Perhaps less so because there's not even a zen quality to it.

The function of Gold Coast as funnel for draft talent and a permanent fluffer for Geelong, Richmond and Hawthorn just bears it out. It serves no other purpose.

Funnily enough, Moneyball was originally born as the baseball teams such as Oakland could not compete with teams with 3 times the cap and any player they developed was poached.

Now, the AFL allegedly has a cap and the future pick trading, FA, cap dumps and so forth basically enable the Geelongs to perpetually buck the cycle of bottoming out and we now have the same 2 tier feeder system as baseball.

GC and GWS are just overpaying their players in the same fashion Collingwood did to retain them. And now the AFL bring in new cap dump rules. To benefit who exactly?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Port Adelaide has rejected West Coast’s bid for Dan Houston as the two clubs discuss deals that could ultimately get the Power both Jason Horne-Francis and Junior Rioli.

The Eagles have looked at the Power’s list to try and see if there would be a current player the Power would be willing to give up as part of the deal to send Rioli to Alberton.

It is understood they inquired about Houston, but the answer from the Power was no.

Houston, 25, signed a five-year deal with the Power in March and had a career-best season for Port in 2022, averaging 23 disposals and six marks a game.

Rioli, 27, wants to move to the Power after 51 games for the Eagles.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide/afl-trades-2022-esava-ratugolea-wants-to-join-port-adelaide-from-geelong/news-story/2150aec173abbc361b7fce16f9f26f55

Port might miss out. They’ve got to pony up a decent player.

 

[TurnoverMerchant]

Do port want the player or not? They can’t just turn down every opportunity and then go kicking and screaming when the deal doesn’t get done. Either give up something of value (especially for tapping up another teams most valuable asset) or **** off!