List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

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Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Merlin007]

Marshall is 6-12. Add 8 and future first and it's about 3800 points.

3800 points is what Adelaide offered us for 1 last year. Rawling set this as the benchmark day 1 of trade week.

Marshall + 8 + F1 is fair.

As (I think) Souup said, if Marshall really is in the mix, then it takes the weight off needing to snare Cadman for structural reasons. Marshall, 8 and F1 for a bloke who doesn't want to be here is good business

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

Don't think Marshall and Larkey are a great combo. Need a more physical presence than Todd.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Saints man Cooper has gone with Hunter Clark asking for a trade

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Saints putting him up for trade for the right amount then shocked when hunter is annoyed and wants go now regardless of what saints get back?

 

[Roosurgence]

Don't think Marshall and Larkey are a great combo. Need a more physical presence than Todd.

I partially agree. I’m not sure they are my preferred combo either.

But I think Larkey has the ability to play that hit up forward role and let Marshall play deep.

Larkey has been forced to play deep due to our lack of marking targets.

It would work if Larkey changed role, but then is that the best utilisation of Larkey?

 

[Roosurgence]

As (I think) Souup said, if Marshall really is in the mix, then it takes the weight off needing to snare Cadman for structural reasons. Marshall, 8 and F1 for a bloke who doesn't want to be here is good business

I’m not sure we would straight out get Marshall + Pick 8 + PA future 1st.

They would most likely want something coming back.

 

[New_Roo]

Trade Eon outs: Pick 1, JHF

Trade Eon Ins: Logue, Tucker, Marshall, Sheezel, Wardlaw/Tsatas, Keeler/Jefferson, Cowan, Harvey, F1, F3…

Missing Anything?

5 in the draft? Wouldn't say missing anything more have too many!


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[The Filth Wizard]

Sounds like clark is 100% a no go. Saints don't wanna deal him.

Unless something changed today Clark is definitely gettable.

 

[Roosurgence]

5 in the draft? Wouldn't say missing anything more have too many!


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You would think with the limited spots we would be trying to maximise the top end talent and get future picks for next years draft.

 

[tiltraise]

Updated 5 way mega deal

Port
In: JHF, Rioli, Haynes
Out: 8, 33, f1

WC
In: 8, 12, f1(pa)
Out: Rioli, 26, f1

GWS
In: 1, 33
Out: Haynes, 3, 12, 19

STK
In: 19, f3(fre)
Out: Clarke

NM
In: Clarke, 3, 26, f1(wc)
Out: JHF, 1, f3(fre)

 

[Roosurgence]

Unless something changed today Clark is definitely gettable.

I think I the Saints will sit back and see what we can get through other deals.

If the JHF goes down to the last minute, this one might not happen. Unless both clubs agree to something in principle that can be signed off very quickly.

 

[New_Roo]

Pick about 18

Didn't they reject a f2 which teams would say would be around 19-20. So personally think needs to be closer to mid teens


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[Devington]

Updated 5 way mega deal

Port
In: JHF, Rioli, Haynes
Out: 8, 33, f1

WC
In: 8, 12, f1(pa)
Out: Rioli, 26, f1

GWS
In: 1, 33
Out: Haynes, 3, 12, 19

STK
In: 19, f3(fre)
Out: Clarke

NM
In: Clarke, 3, 26, f1(wc)
Out: JHF, 1, f3(fre)

We turned down JHF for F1 and 8. I don't think we're going to turn around and agree to that and then Port somehow only pay 33 for Rioli and Haynes.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

This is a comment made on one of facebook pages on Todd Marshall:

“Hearing from a decent source that big Todd Marshall has been asked the question and has told Port that he is willing to come across to Arden st.
8 + future 1st pick and Marshall”

The important words there are "facebook pages"

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

Don't think Marshall and Larkey are a great combo. Need a more physical presence than Todd.

They would work fine together - twin 6' 6 athletic forwards who both have great set shot routines is exactly what we are looking for.

Zurhaar and Chom can provide a physical presence and P Curtis does ok in that area as well.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Saints man Cooper has gone with Hunter Clark asking for a trade

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Don't want him

 

[Roosurgence]

I think Bergman will be the one to unlock everything. Melbourne boy, Saints fan and reportedly wanted to come back to Melbourne.

If Bergman agrees to come back to Melbourne, I can see a deal where he goes to St Kilda and Clark to us.

Bergmans Dad actually played for St Kilda reserves so there might be some interest?

 

[William Caresser]

We should probably care about what one former player thinks


But I do agree with your sentiments

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Two when you add the coach.

 

[Mcarcherey]

i'm not a CCJ fan....but getting Marshall would mean we have Larkey, CCJ, Comben and Marshall as KPF...if we got Marshall all it would mean is Comben and/or CCJ request a trade to get AFL time, and we'd probably get little return. seems like the net effect would be 8, F1st, and slight upgrade in the KPF area.

Also, i don't think Larkey and Marshall would make a great team, they both seem to be low possession forwards full forwards, not a CHF and FF. we already have that terrible combo with CCJ and Larkey both being low possession KPF. i think Comben has more ability to be the CHF we require, by far the most agile of all our options.

 

[Fart Cummings]

I’m not sure we would straight out get Marshall + Pick 8 + PA future 1st.

They would most likely want something coming back.

yeh JHF

 

[Roosurgence]

i'm not a CCJ fan....but getting Marshall would mean we have Larkey, CCJ, Comben and Marshall as KPF...if we got Marshall all it would mean is Comben and/or CCJ request a trade to get AFL time, and we'd probably get little return. seems like the net effect would be 8, F1st, and slight upgrade in the KPF area.

Also, i don't think Larkey and Marshall would make a great team, they both seem to be low possession forwards full forwards, not a CHF and FF. we already have that terrible combo with CCJ and Larkey both being low possession KPF. i think Comben has more ability to be the CHF we require, by far the most agile of all our options.

You will see an increase in output in Larkey with a genuine KPF partnering with him.

At the moment he has been pretty much double teamed because clubs recognise no other threat up forward.

You witnessed what happened when a team tried to go one out with him in Sydney and he tore Tom McCartin a new hole.

 

[Roosurgence]

yeh JHF

Can’t see us getting all that for JHF.

I think there will be something on top of JHF going back. They will most likely ask for our future 2nd.

I’m sure their will be some haggling if this is the deal they are looking to get off the ground.

 

[Reagan Smash]

We have progressed from a Bonner to Marshall.
Who will be Ports sacrificial player du jour tomorrow?

 

[The acurate one]

Marshall is a poncier version of Larkey.

Makes Ben Brown look like George Foreman.

But I like it .

F Comben Larkey Xerri
HF CCJ Marshall Goldy

We could say we’ve set our fwd line for the next few years. Probably need to look for one to replace Goldy in a couple of years though.

 

[pupstar]

Don't think Marshall and Larkey are a great combo. Need a more physical presence than Todd.

Who do you recommend then.

 

[amaz199]

We actually need a clone of Petrie/Waite more so than another Larkey. Lead up forwards are good no doubt about that, but in those crucial centre clearance or stoppage clearance moments, we struggle to trouble defenders that sweep.

The value of players with the ability of taking a huge contested mark or splitting the pack to bring ball to ground is just so crucial and we have none (other than Comben). What was once a surplus in our forward line, is now a scarce option. Indictment on our list management of the last 10 years.