List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread III

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: 2022 Draft Pick Order

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Pick Order

Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

When does Free Agency begin? How long does the Trade Period go for? Find out on AFL.com.au.

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Wouldn't be surprised if we have a similar number of changes next year as well.

If we do it again next year (and no one would be shocked) we’d be moving on players after much less time on the list than we’ve traditionally offered, so it would be an even tougher statement of intent.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Wouldn't be surprised if we have a similar number of changes next year as well.

few retirements next year, goldy, hall and ziebell

plus polec if he doesn't get paid out now

then delisting another 2-3 shitmen

 

[Farthers]

If we do it again next year (and no one would be shocked) we’d be moving on players after much less time on the list than we’ve traditionally offered, so it would be an even tougher statement of intent.

Might be a mix of old guard retiring. Ziebell, Hall, Polec, Goldy and players like Mahoney, Spicer. Some of the old guard may get another year depending on how they go next season id guess.

 

[Farthers]

few retirements next year, goldy, hall and ziebell

plus polec if he doesn't get paid out now

then delisting another 2-3 shitmen

Haha, i just posted the same names.

 

[Le Grille]

If we do it again next year (and no one would be shocked) we’d be moving on players after much less time on the list than we’ve traditionally offered, so it would be an even tougher statement of intent.

True, but for the criticism of this approach I guess the question is, is the list better now than it was r22 2020 I’d say it is.

 

[chubbspeterson]

SEN - "Roos delist 376 games of experience as quartet departs". No other team has this in their delistings headlines lol

 

[My Left Foote]

Wouldn't be surprised if we have a similar number of changes next year as well.

Yes will be similar. We have to take minimum 3 players in the draft so that's always the base, we'll have a couple of retirements (Ziebell & Polec) so that makes it 5 already.

My comment was more around the fact that it feels like the end of what we started in 2020 and that any future list changes will be due to natural attrition rather than historical errors.

 

[leighlee13]

I thought Jed was heading to the suns as a delisted free agent. If so, surely he’d prefer to go that way rather than with us as a rookie

He would have but Liam Pickering said they other day because of what went on for GC in trade period, they no longer had a list spot for him.

 

[ferball]

God I hate that our pick is always seen as "up for grabs"

i reckon journo's are at the point where their body just writes that sort of shit automatically and they don't even consciously think about it.

 

[Mr Lloyd Christmas]

I've sorted our wing pace issue out.

Sure not great with footy in hand, so it suits our squad well.

 

[ferball]

Gee. I just wrote that and realised I mentioned afl journo and conscious in the same sentence. D'oh.

 

[ferball]

Bulldogs announce list changes

The Western Bulldogs have informed Louis Butler and Charlie Parker that they will not be offered contracts for the 2023 season.

www.westernbulldogs.com.au

GET LOUIS BUTLER!

Am I doing this right?

The other dude is The Bird!!!

 

[ferball]

Why get rid of one of the greats in Charlie " Bird " Parker ?

Makes no sense.

Snap Hoj. Should have known you'd pick up on that. Thought Rob Z might as well.

 

[King Corey]

I've sorted our wing pace issue out.

Sure not great with footy in hand, so it suits our squad well.

I reckon there's a couple of our guys who would run faster if you put a KFC meal just out of reach in front of them.

 

[ferball]

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Wouldn't be the first time someone used Charlie parker and Horse in the same sentence.

 

[buttox]

No surprises in today's delistings.
We have 7 open slots on the list
4 national draft selections was mentioned.
Which leaves us 3 open for dfas or ssp selections of more senior players.
That feels pretty good tbh.
Jed may end up competing for one of those ssp spots.

 

[ferball]

It ends by saying all will be welcome back to our club , wonder if a certain someone was awarded the same invite, unlikely.

brady also mentioned they were a chance to be rookied, in part because of their character.

 

[ferball]

The last of the great list culls, I think I've got this right;
2022: 7 players
2021: 9 players
2020: 13 players
29 players over 3 years either desisted or traded.

It's the dawn of a new era, after years of giving players undeserved contract extensions and hanging on to players hoping they'd come good or they'd eventually get over their injuries we can now set a new standard.

Time to draw a line under the Scott / Joyce and Shaw / Noble eras it's onwards and upwards with Clarko / Viney / Brady.

Its been like that most years since (and including) 2016. We've essentially been cycling thru the list since then.

 

[giantroo]

 

[ferball]

SEN - "Roos delist 376 games of experience as quartet departs". No other team has this in their delistings headlines lol

Well the talk all season and especially since trade period has been that we need experience.

 

[Tas]

wowsers. All 4 gone.
Walker and jed will get picked up by other clubs for sure
Better hope larkey doesnt go down otherwise walker would have been good to keep.

That is the problem, Walker wasn't a good option even when Larkey got hurt.

If Comben doesn't get on and stay on the park next year we need to a plan B.

 

[Tas]

Well the talk all season and especially since trade period has been that we need experience.

I would have kept Jed as he was still playing AFL standard footy, the others not so much. We need experience but we need quality experience.

Ziebell 258 games, barely noticed him this year.
Polec 148, afraid of his own shadow
Walker 139, just demoralising clangers
Turner 118, couldn't find a role for him.

We have an extreme shortage of A grade older talent.

 

[awesome wells]

Wouldn't be surprised if we have a similar number of changes next year as well.

Mahony, Lazzaro, Spicer will want to show something next season, cos right now they are next.

 

[Le Grille]

Mahony, Lazzaro, Spicer will want to show something next season, cos right now they are next.

It’s a fair point keep in mind w jz , Polec will likely be done too, does greenwood have one or two yrs left?

 

[Usayed Givashe]

Gresh not likely to ever leave the Saints but would absolutely love him at North. Could be a superstar in the right environment.

No, he couldn’t.

Can I please be the pedantic pain in the bum who points out that that's not actually how percentages work?

Yes but did you know statistics are the beginning of the conversation, not the end?