List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Period

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2022 AFL Trade Period

All About Carlton

Current draft picks: 10, 29, 49, 66
List changes:
Out: Hayes, McDonald, Newnes, Parks, Stocker, Williamson, (Jones), Setterfield
In: Blake Acres
Uncontracted: 1 - Ed Curnow - new deal pending (Fogarty confirmed contracted for 2023)
List status: Senior - 33 (inc. Owies); Rookie - 5; Cat-B Rookie - 1; Free spots - 4 (plus one Cat-B)

Key Dates

Draft Nominations: OPEN
Mon 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open
Mon 21-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close

The Draft:
Mon 28-Nov
7.10pm: National Draft Round One; Bidding on F/S, Academy & NGA
Tue 29-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion
10pm - 11.00pm: Rookie Upgrade period
10pm - 11.00pm: Delisted Free Agency Period 3
Wed 30-Nov
3pm: Pre-season Draft
3.20pm: Rookie Draft
Thu 1-Dec
by 4pm: Final Club list lodgment

Delisted Free Agency Periods 1 & 2: CLOSED
Thu 03-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences
Wed 09-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes
Fri 11-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences
Tue 15-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 03-Oct 9am: Trade Period commences – Players & Selections
Wed 12-Oct 7.30pm: Trade Period closes – player trades
Tue 15-Nov 5.00pm: Trade Period closes – selections only

RFA and UFA: CLOSED
Fri 30-Sep 9am: Restricted Free Agency (RFA) and Unrestricted Free Agency (UFA) Period commences
Fri 07-Oct 5pm: Close of Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.
Mon 10-Oct 5pm: Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends
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Completed Trades:

Fri 30-Sep:
1 Karl Amon (PA) to Hawthorn (UFA) Port Adelaide receive 2nd round compensation pick (currently Pick 27).
Mon 3-Oct:
2 Bobby Hill (GWS) to Collingwood GWS receive Pies' future 2nd round pick. Also swap of 3rd round picks - Pies get pick GWS pick 41, for their pick 44.
3 Tim Taranto (GWS) to Richmond GWS receive Tigers 1st round pick, and Tigers 2nd round pick from NM (currently picks 12 and 19).
4 Jayden Hunt (Mel) to West Coast (UFA) Melbourne receive 3rd round compensation pick (currently Pick 54).
Tue 4-Oct:
5 Blake Acres (Freo) to CARLTON Fremantle receive Carlton's future 3rd round pick.
6 Daniel McStay (Bris) to Collingwood (RFA) Brisbane receive 2nd round compensation pick (currently Pick 35).
7 Liam Jones (CARLTON) to Western Bulldogs (UFA) CARLTON receive 3rd round compensation pick (currently Pick 49).
8 Pick trade: Melbourne picks 33 (R2), 43 (R3), 53 (R3) to Port Adelaide for pick 27 (R2)
Wed 5-Oct:
9 Zaine Cordy (WBU) to St Kilda (UFA) No compensation for Western Bulldogs (due to taking UFA Liam Jones)
10 Griffin Logue and Darcy Tucker (Freo) to North Melbourne. Fremantle receive Future 2nd and 3rd picks (AFL assistance package for NM). Additionally, NM gains Freo's Future 3rd pick in exchange for North's future 4th pick.
11 Pick trade: GWS trade pick their second round pick (currently 21) and future Rd 2 pick to Brisbane for their 1st round pick (currently 15)
12 Ben Long (StK) to Gold Coast St Kilda receive 2nd round pick (currently 32), with the Saints' future 4th round pick going back to the Suns.
13 Tom Berry (Bris) to Gold Coast Brisbane receive 2 x Rd 2 picks (currently 25 and 36), and a 3rd rd pick (56). Suns get Brisbane's 3rd rd (46) and GWS future 2nd round pick.
Thu 6-Oct:
14 Josh Corbett (GCS) to Fremantle Gold Coast receive Freo's future round 4 selection.
Fri 7-Oct:
15 Tanner Bruhn (GWS) to Geelong GWS receive Geelong's first round pick (Currently pick 18)
16 Pick trade: Geelong Rd 2 pick (currently 38), two x Rd 3 picks (48, 55), and future 2nd and 4th picks to Brisbane for their Rd 2 pick (25).
Mon 10-Oct:
17 Toby Bedford (Mel) to GWS. Melbourne receive GWS Rd 3 pick (tied to Haw - currently 44).
18 Luke Jackson (Mel) to Fremantle . Melbourne receive Fremantle's 1st round pick (currently 13) and future 1st and 2nd round picks. Fremantle also receive Melbourne's Rd 3 pick (tied to Haw - currently 44), and 4th round pick (tied to StK - 67).
19 Will Setterfield (CARLTON) to Essendon. Carlton receive Essendon's future 4th round pick. Essendon also receive Carlton's 4th rd pick (currently 68).
20 Izak Rankine (GCS) to Adelaide. Suns gain Adelaide's 1st rd pick (currently 5) and future 3rd and 4th picks. Adelaide also receive Suns' Rd 3 pick (tied to PA - currently 46) and future 4th pick (tied to Freo).
21 "Mega deal"
North Melbourne:
Out - Pick 1, Jason Horne-Francis, Future 3rd (Freo)
In - Picks 2 (WCE), 3 (GWS), 40 (WCE), 43 (PA - from Ade), Future 1st (PA)
West Coast:
Out - Pick 2, 40, Junior Rioli
In - Pick 8 (PA), 12 (GWS from Rich), Future 2nd (PA), Future 3rd (PA)
Port Adelaide:
Out - Pick 8, 43 (Ade), 53 (Mel), 57 (Syd), Future 1st, Future 2nd, Future 3rd
In - Jason Horne-Francis, Junior Rioli, Future 2nd (GWS tied to Col), Future 3rd (NM tied to Freo)
GWS:
Out - Pick 3, 12 (from Rich), Future 2nd (Col)
In - Pick 1, 53 (PA from Mel), 57 (PA from Syd)
Tue 11-Oct:
22 Jack Gunston (Haw) to Brisbane. Hawthorn receive Rd 3 pick from Brisbane (currently 48 - tied to Carlton) and Brisbane's future 4th rd pick.
23 Brodie Grundy (Col) to Melbourne. Collingwood receive Melbourne's Rd 2 pick (currently 27) in exchange.
24 Billy Frampton (Ade) to Collingwood. Adelaide receive Collingwood's future 3rd round pick.
25 Jack Bowes (GCS) to Geelong. Geelong also receive Gold Coast's pick 7. Gold Coast receive Geelong's future 3rd round pick.
26 Jacob Hopper (GWS) to Richmond. GWS receive Richmond's Rd 2 pick (currently 31) and future 1st round pick. Richmond also receive GWS 3rd rd pick (tied to Melb, currently 53), and GWS 4th rd pick (tied to Adelaide, currently 63).
Wed 12-Oct:
27 Aaron Francis (Ess) to Sydney. Sydney also receive Essendon's pick 42. Essendon receive Sydney's pick 37 and future 4th Rd pick.
28 Sam Weideman (Mel) to Essendon. Melbourne receive Essendon's pick 37. Essendon also receive Melbourne's picks 54 and 72.
29 Josh Schache (WBU) to Melbourne. Western Bulldogs receive Melbourne's future 4th round pick.
30 Lachie Hunter (WBU) to Melbourne. Western Bulldogs receive Melbourne's future 3rd round pick.
31 Josh Dunkley (WBU) to Brisbane. Western Bulldogs receive pick 21 along with Brisbane's future 1st and 2nd round picks, and Geelong's future 4th. Brisbane also receive the Bulldog's future 3rd and a future 3rd tied to Melbourne.
32 Ollie Henry (Coll) to Geelong. Cooper Stephens (Gee) to Hawthorn. Tom Mitchell (Haw) to Collingwood. Collingwood also receive pick 25 from Geelong. Hawthorn receive picks 41 and 50 from Collingwood.
33 Rory Lobb (Freo) to Western Bulldogs. Fremantle receive pick 30 and Western Bulldog's future 2nd round pick.
34 Jaeger O'Meara (Haw) to Fremantle. Lloyd Meek (Fre) to Hawthorn. Fremantle receive Hawthorn's future 4th round pick. Hawthorn receive Western Bulldog's future 2nd round pick.

Post Trade-week Trades (Selections only):
35 Oct 21: Pick Trade: The Brisbane Lions trade its Round Three Selection (56) to the Adelaide Crows for its Future Round Four Selection (tied to Fremantle)
36 Oct 21: Pick Trade: North Melbourne trade its Round Four Selection (59) and Future Round Two Selection to the Adelaide Crows for its Round Two Selection (23).
37 Nov 15: Pick Trade: North Melbourne trades round three selection (43) to Fremantle for Fremantle's future round four selection (tied to Hawthorn).

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Missed Out on trades:
Matt Crouch (Ade) - Adelaide looking to find him a new home.
James Rowe (Ade) - Possible move to Western Bulldogs.
Fischer McAsey (Ade) - Possible move to Carlton. Carlton apparently no longer interested.
Paddy Dow (Car) - Possible move to NM, Gee.
Caleb Poulter (Col) - Possible move to Gold Coast.
Nick Bryan (Ess) - Possible move, perhaps to Saints.
Brayden Ham (Ess) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
Liam Henry (Freo) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere, but is contracted.
Jeremy Sharp (GCS) - Possible move to Freo
Brayden Fiorini (GCS) - Possible move to Collingwood
Esava Ratugolea (Gee) - Several clubs interested. Geelong open to move. Perhaps GWS.
Lachie Whitfield (GWS) - GWS open to discussion
Nick Haynes (GWS) - GWS open to discussion
Kozzy Pickett (Mel) - Possible move to Port Adelaide. Melbourne say not happening.
Adam Tomlinson (Mel) - Melbourne open to move.
James Harmes (Mel) - Possible move to Essendon (and others). Melbourne say not happening.
Tarryn Thomas (NM) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere, possibly GCS.
Martin Frederick (PA) - Possible move to WCE
Mitch Georgiades (PA) - Possible move to WCE
Sam Hayes (PA) - Contracted, but Port may be open to offers elsewhere.
Ivan Soldo (Rich) - Possible move to GWS.
Jack Graham (Rich) - Likely now to stay at Richmond after exploring PA.
Riley Collier-Dawkins (Rich) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
Jack Bytel (StK) - Essendon interested.
Hunter Clark (StK) - Possible move to NM.
Brad Hill (StK) - Possible move to NM.
Lewis Mellican (Syd) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
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DFA and Retiree moves
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (ex-Ess) - looking to return from retirement, possibly to Freo, as SSP
Conor McKenna (ex-Ess) - looking to return from retirement, possibly to Gee in rookie draft
Liam Stocker (ex-Car) - Possible DFA to Essendon
Ciaran Byrne (ex-Car) - Possible return to Carlton as Cat-B Rookie - 5-Oct: Not happening, stays in Ireland
Francis Evans (ex-Gee) - Possible DFA to Port Adelaide
Quinton Narkle (ex-Gee) - DFA, several clubs interested
Kyle Hartigan (ex-Haw) - Possible DFA to St Kilda
Tom Phillips (ex-Haw) - Possible DFA to Essendon
Dan Hanneberry (ex-StK) - NM interested in bringing him out of retirement
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Draft Order and selection summary


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Dramoth said:
North has apparently looked at him as well. Personally, I think that we are better off retaining Dow and letting Setters go. Setters is another one pace inside mid... like the rest of our midfield. Dow has an explosive burst out of the middle which is something we need.
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I tend to agree, he has limited trade value - if his contract is at the low end he's better on our list than as a gift elsewhere. Showed improvement in the VFL I thought, you never know when the opportunity might present itself.
 
Doro said:
I tend to agree, he has limited trade value - if his contract is at the low end he's better on our list than as a gift elsewhere. Showed improvement in the VFL I thought, you never know when the opportunity might present itself.
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If Kennedy or Hewett goes down for an extended period... it would be the perfect chance for Dow to show that he belongs in the AFL ahead of the end of his contract. You're right, he showed a lot of improvement in the VFL... however everyone is going to say "but he can't run out games". I would postulate that the games where he didn't go back out in the second half were the games where he was named as an emergency, in a Victorian game, and the club didn't want him cashing in all his tickets if he had to suddenly had to rush to the big game.
 

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The Blue Weirdo said:
Yes, that would be a major element.
We could trade contracted Dow or keep him (the clubs choice?) or we could trade un-contracted Setters for whatever we can get or lose him for nothing.
Or we still might trade them both.
If Dow remains, It could just as likely mean that we've decided to retain some kind of depth without offering Setters a mid-length contract on good money.
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I think it's more if Setters were contracted and Dow wasn't, we'd only consider trading Setters for a really good deal, and we'd be taking whatever we could get for Dow.
 
Dramoth said:
If Kennedy or Hewett goes down for an extended period... it would be the perfect chance for Dow to show that he belongs in the AFL ahead of the end of his contract. You're right, he showed a lot of improvement in the VFL... however everyone is going to say "but he can't run out games". I would postulate that the games where he didn't go back out in the second half were the games where he was named as an emergency, in a Victorian game, and the club didn't want him cashing in all his tickets if he had to suddenly had to rush to the big game.
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I haven't heard his GPS numbers but the defensive running is still the obvious weakness. If another club was offering a starting it would be a wise decision to grab it, but I think he'd be working his way up from the VFL at most clubs. Not sure if Vossy is the biggest fan based on his limited game time, but he's one I haven't put the line through yet.
 
Dramoth said:
If Kennedy or Hewett goes down for an extended period... it would be the perfect chance for Dow to show that he belongs in the AFL ahead of the end of his contract. You're right, he showed a lot of improvement in the VFL... however everyone is going to say "but he can't run out games". I would postulate that the games where he didn't go back out in the second half were the games where he was named as an emergency, in a Victorian game, and the club didn't want him cashing in all his tickets if he had to suddenly had to rush to the big game.
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Dow? Where is he physically right now? If he’s anywhere but Icon Park running and training then he’s deluding himself.

The culture of AFl players needing eternally long breaks bewilders me. They don’t understand fitness. No clue. They don’t understand the opportunity cost of taking all the time off they do.

Dow should be taking the chnace to have the almightiest of preseasons.

Anyone confirm if he is?
 
Dramoth said:
If Kennedy or Hewett goes down for an extended period... it would be the perfect chance for Dow to show that he belongs in the AFL ahead of the end of his contract. You're right, he showed a lot of improvement in the VFL... however everyone is going to say "but he can't run out games". I would postulate that the games where he didn't go back out in the second half were the games where he was named as an emergency, in a Victorian game, and the club didn't want him cashing in all his tickets if he had to suddenly had to rush to the big game.
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We had 19 rounds missed by the big 5:
Cripps: 5
Kennedy: 6, 11, 21, 22, 23
Hewett: 7, 8, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23
Cerra: 2, 14, 15, 22
Walsh: 1 & 23

Some games of particular note:
Rd 5: Cripps out. Dow unused sub.
Rd 11: Kennedy out. Dow 21d.
Rd 19: Hewett out.
Rd 20: Hewett out.
Rd 21: Hewett & Kennedy out. Dow 13d.
Rd 22: Hewett, Kennedy & Cerra out. Dow unused sub.
Rd 23: Hewett, Kennedy & Walsh out

His best game was 21d and he was dropped straight after because of his defensive efforts. The rd21 game was putrid. By the end Docherty was preferred to be parachuted in from half back rather than play Dow.

He’s useless anywhere except on ball so has to spend a huge amount of time on the bench, unless you want to sacrifice out midfield by moving our better midfielders out to accommodate him.

Unless he works his arse off and fixes some of his issues then he’s probably only a viable starter if all of Cripps, Kennedy, Hewett and Curnow are unavailable.

Also, there were games where he definitely stayed on the park in the 4th, including starting at pretty much every centre bounce, and just couldn’t get his hands on it or have any impact. Maybe he and Stocker were in the same running group.
 
rp84 said:
Agreed. I'd probably offer 250kpa for 2 years plus games (15 games) trigger for a 3rd.

Clearly AFL level depth. Played two huge games at the back end. Might just be finding his feet finally.

I think it's terrible list management if he's leaving purely for the extra year. I don't think he deserves more than 250k but some contract stability is reasonable. He's far from a dead weight list position and clearly more valuable than a draft pick we won't use.

That said, if it's money, he can * right off.
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Acres move to us was all about money..

Bottom 6-10 players who are never likely to get the 'golden contract' will more than often either leave for money, opportunity or in Setters case, both.
 
windows1 said:
Dow? Where is he physically right now? If he’s anywhere but Icon Park running and training then he’s deluding himself.

The culture of AFl players needing eternally long breaks bewilders me. They don’t understand fitness. No clue. They don’t understand the opportunity cost of taking all the time off they do.

Dow should be taking the chnace to have the almightiest of preseasons.

Anyone confirm if he is?
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I thought that was your job?
 
We’ve got Acres
We are happy with our list

Let’s take the KISS principle this year, pack up and go to the draft with our picks - simples :D
 
rp84 said:
Agreed. I'd probably offer 250kpa for 2 years plus games (15 games) trigger for a 3rd.

Clearly AFL level depth. Played two huge games at the back end. Might just be finding his feet finally.

I think it's terrible list management if he's leaving purely for the extra year. I don't think he deserves more than 250k but some contract stability is reasonable. He's far from a dead weight list position and clearly more valuable than a draft pick we won't use.

That said, if it's money, he can * right off.
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Yep, don’t do it for the cash - we have enough of them. Play for the love Setters, for the love. FMD.
 

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Will be interesting to see what happens. In the proposal, Port would get in #36, but they need to get a F2nd instead to be allowed to do the trade. Seems silly.
 
KohPhi said:
Acres move to us was all about money..

Bottom 6-10 players who are never likely to get the 'golden contract' will more than often either leave for money, opportunity or in Setters case, both.
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Agreed, interesting that the bottom 6 or so players are generally the difference between good and great teams but aren't rewarded with the big contracts.
 
KohPhi said:
Acres move to us was all about money..

Bottom 6-10 players who are never likely to get the 'golden contract' will more than often either leave for money, opportunity or in Setters case, both.
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Setters hasn’t been offered a contract. We forced him to look. It’s Tuohy all over. Don’t blame the kid for trying to earn peanuts, the club failed him and gave him no choice.
 
SurreyBlue said:
Setters hasn’t been offered a contract. We forced him to look. It’s Tuohy all over. Don’t blame the kid for trying to earn peanuts, the club failed him and gave him no choice.
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Absolutely it's about money.. it seems like the club has an offer of what they think he's worth, which seems less in $$ or contract length (or both) than what Essendon have offered and what Setters wants. Wouldn't blame him at all trying to maximise what potentially could be his last AFL contract.
But I don't believe the club has 'failed' him. Fringe players get cut/traded/low balled at every club, every year..
 
Dramoth said:
North has apparently looked at him as well. Personally, I think that we are better off retaining Dow and letting Setters go. Setters is another one pace inside mid... like the rest of our midfield. Dow has an explosive burst out of the middle which is something we need.
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SurreyBlue said:
Setters hasn’t been offered a contract. We forced him to look. It’s Tuohy all over. Don’t blame the kid for trying to earn peanuts, the club failed him and gave him no choice.
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The difference is that Tuohy was best 22 every week and very much a required player. Setterfield has done SFA except for the last few games when his contract was up for renewal.
 
windows1 said:
Dow? Where is he physically right now? If he’s anywhere but Icon Park running and training then he’s deluding himself.

The culture of AFl players needing eternally long breaks bewilders me. They don’t understand fitness. No clue. They don’t understand the opportunity cost of taking all the time off they do.

Dow should be taking the chnace to have the almightiest of preseasons.

Anyone confirm if he is?
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Paddy's in the USA with Walsh and Setterfield rn
 
CJMB said:
We had 19 rounds missed by the big 5:
Cripps: 5
Kennedy: 6, 11, 21, 22, 23
Hewett: 7, 8, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23
Cerra: 2, 14, 15, 22
Walsh: 1 & 23

Some games of particular note:
Rd 5: Cripps out. Dow unused sub.
Rd 11: Kennedy out. Dow 21d.
Rd 19: Hewett out.
Rd 20: Hewett out.
Rd 21: Hewett & Kennedy out. Dow 13d.
Rd 22: Hewett, Kennedy & Cerra out. Dow unused sub.
Rd 23: Hewett, Kennedy & Walsh out

His best game was 21d and he was dropped straight after because of his defensive efforts. The rd21 game was putrid. By the end Docherty was preferred to be parachuted in from half back rather than play Dow.

He’s useless anywhere except on ball so has to spend a huge amount of time on the bench, unless you want to sacrifice out midfield by moving our better midfielders out to accommodate him.

Unless he works his arse off and fixes some of his issues then he’s probably only a viable starter if all of Cripps, Kennedy, Hewett and Curnow are unavailable.

Also, there were games where he definitely stayed on the park in the 4th, including starting at pretty much every centre bounce, and just couldn’t get his hands on it or have any impact. Maybe he and Stocker were in the same running group.
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They actually were :'(
 

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