List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part I

[SaintsSeptember]

2m defenders are rare enough commodities that he's worth a medical. Given our recent success in rehabbing the likes of Webster and Gresh we may just be able to pull off a heist (assuming he's even interested)

Given our recent success rehabbing the likes of Freeman , and Hannebery we may burn a trade.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Higgins just hasn’t shown any genuine midfield capability.

Toby has had those games when GWS’ midfield has been decimated so he goes there gets 30 and still kicks a couple. Has that stringer/de goey pinch hit midfield ability

I think i remember Ratten talking about giving him midfield time, so he obviously rates his capability.

 

[The Jack]

Given our recent success rehabbing the likes of Freeman , and Hannebery we may burn a trade.

Don’t forget Jesse Smith.

 

[Hayes4PM]

So Pearce played a very good game tonight, and Freo have Brennan Cox

36

Brennan Cox

Age

26

Ht

195cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

182.8

3star

D

12.3

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.0

2star

MG

182.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

and Luke Ryan in the team best 22 with Logue and Hamling as other tall options, maybe Freo would be willing to have Pearce move on for their age demographic?



Yes this is my hill I know, but we need a high quality key back on our list.

 

[plugger66]

If I could pick one player in the afl who was young and suit us it would be Andy brayshaw. What a star.

 

[Minga]

If I could pick one player in the afl who was young and suit us it would be Andy brayshaw. What a star.

Not an exact copy, but same draft year and very close in draft position, I think Hunter Clark can become that for us.

Had a shocking run with injury (just unlucky opposed to his body breaking down) but I can definitely foresee him averaging, 25+ disposals a healthy amount of clearances and contested possessions and getting on the end of a few goals. Plus his silk and evasion is elite for his age. At his best he’s a 35+ disposals and a couple of goals, like a Brayshaw.

It still gets my giddy that we’re looking a good team without Clark and Coffield in the side. Genuinely rate them despite limited output due to recent injury. I think you’ll find that Clark when he’s been able to play as been progressing upwards and Coffield supposedly had a BOG good pre-season until the ACL, so I remain quietly confident on the success of those two to our team in the future.

However, unlike Coffield, Clark can make a big impact this year. His silk/evasion under pressure is made for finals and big games.

 

[gringo2011]

Not an exact copy, but same draft year and very close in draft position, I think Hunter Clark can become that for us.

Had a shocking run with injury (just unlucky opposed to his body breaking down) but I can definitely foresee him averaging, 25+ disposals a healthy amount of clearances and contested possessions and getting on the end of a few goals. Plus his silk and evasion is elite for his age. At his best he’s a 35+ disposals and a couple of goals, like a Brayshaw.

It still gets my giddy that we’re looking a good team without Clark and Coffield in the side. Genuinely rate them despite limited output due to recent injury. I think you’ll find that Clark when he’s been able to play as been progressing upwards and Coffield supposedly had a BOG good pre-season until the ACL, so I remain quietly confident on the success of those two to our team in the future.

However, unlike Coffield, Clark can make a big impact this year. His silk/evasion under pressure is made for finals and big games.

Clark is an interesting one. He's had some good games on ball but not really sure who he pushes out of the midfield, especially with Jones coming back. If so and he plays some on ball and rotates off a HBF who does he push out of there. Webster plays tight and probably more Coffield's rival and also has Highmore to contend with. Lienert adds something different with long kicking, Paton plays a pure tight stopper role so not the same and Sinclair is a star.

McKenzie gets named in the back 6 but plays wing. Long, Dmac, Hayes, Lienert and Wood look like the guys that are closer to the borderline than others but all would be very unlucky to lose a spot.

It might be that a guy like Jones has to play HBF/mid and share the role with Clark.

 

[Captain Paddy]

Clark is an interesting one. He's had some good games on ball but not really sure who he pushes out of the midfield, especially with Jones coming back. If so and he plays some on ball and rotates off a HBF who does he push out of there. Webster plays tight and probably more Coffield's rival and also has Highmore to contend with. Lienert adds something different with long kicking, Paton plays a pure tight stopper role so not the same and Sinclair is a star.

McKenzie gets named in the back 6 but plays wing. Long, Dmac, Hayes, Lienert and Wood look like the guys that are closer to the borderline than others but all would be very unlucky to lose a spot.

It might be that a guy like Jones has to play HBF/mid and share the role with Clark.

Jones is awful

 

[sammm]

Big call but I look forward to Higgo kicking 12 all the same

forgot about that one. Hope he does. Higgins has a long career ahead of him at the saints.

 

[bergholt]

Jones is awful

Percy Jones? Clinton Jones? David Rhys-Jones?

 

[Sun Ra]

Percy Jones? Clinton Jones? David Rhys-Jones?

Jim Jones was awful.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Clark is an interesting one. He's had some good games on ball but not really sure who he pushes out of the midfield, especially with Jones coming back. If so and he plays some on ball and rotates off a HBF who does he push out of there. Webster plays tight and probably more Coffield's rival and also has Highmore to contend with. Lienert adds something different with long kicking, Paton plays a pure tight stopper role so not the same and Sinclair is a star.

McKenzie gets named in the back 6 but plays wing. Long, Dmac, Hayes, Lienert and Wood look like the guys that are closer to the borderline than others but all would be very unlucky to lose a spot.

It might be that a guy like Jones has to play HBF/mid and share the role with Clark.

It will be really interesting with Clark. It seems like they were set on him playing a midfield/wing role this year. I don't really see how he cracks into the midfield or even a wing role at the moment though. Jones will come into that midfield. That leaves Steele, Crouch, Gresham, Ross and Jones going through there. Doesn't really leave room for anyone else.

McKenzie, NWM and Wood are playing as genuine wingers, which I think is working really well. The winger is such a dedicated and specific role, I think it needs specialists there, rather than midfielders who've been pushed out to a wing. I could see Billings coming in and possibly replacing one of them, though maybe he plays forward.

I'd probably prefer Clark comes in and settles in at half back for a while I think. It's where I've wanted to get him away from for the last few years, and I do think that midfield is his best role, but the team's needs come ahead of his needs. Sinclair and Clark as the two distributors from half back gives us a heap of class exiting defence.

 

[Sheepey]

Not an exact copy, but same draft year and very close in draft position, I think Hunter Clark can become that for us.

Had a shocking run with injury (just unlucky opposed to his body breaking down) but I can definitely foresee him averaging, 25+ disposals a healthy amount of clearances and contested possessions and getting on the end of a few goals. Plus his silk and evasion is elite for his age. At his best he’s a 35+ disposals and a couple of goals, like a Brayshaw.

It still gets my giddy that we’re looking a good team without Clark and Coffield in the side. Genuinely rate them despite limited output due to recent injury. I think you’ll find that Clark when he’s been able to play as been progressing upwards and Coffield supposedly had a BOG good pre-season until the ACL, so I remain quietly confident on the success of those two to our team in the future.

However, unlike Coffield, Clark can make a big impact this year. His silk/evasion under pressure is made for finals and big games.

Andy Brayshaw works way harder than Clark, but doesn't have Clark's skills. Clark's been unlucky with injury, but I always felt he coasted during games, and didn't work hard enough defensively. I was disappointed that he didn't feature in the top 10 of our time trial in the pre-season, as his tank and running capacity are clearly the biggest deficiencies in his game.

 

[Joffaboy]

Clark is an interesting one. He's had some good games on ball but not really sure who he pushes out of the midfield, especially with Jones coming back. If so and he plays some on ball and rotates off a HBF who does he push out of there. Webster plays tight and probably more Coffield's rival and also has Highmore to contend with. Lienert adds something different with long kicking, Paton plays a pure tight stopper role so not the same and Sinclair is a star.

McKenzie gets named in the back 6 but plays wing. Long, Dmac, Hayes, Lienert and Wood look like the guys that are closer to the borderline than others but all would be very unlucky to lose a spot.

It might be that a guy like Jones has to play HBF/mid and share the role with Clark.

Nas for Clark, Windhager for Jones

 

[gringo2011]

Nas for Clark, Windhager for Jones

I hope Naz plays the rest of the season or at least until he looks too tired to continue. Windy almost certainly steps out for Jones.

 

[bergholt]

Andy Brayshaw works way harder than Clark, but doesn't have Clark's skills. Clark's been unlucky with injury, but I always felt he coasted during games, and didn't work hard enough defensively. I was disappointed that he didn't feature in the top 10 of our time trial in the pre-season, as his tank and running capacity are clearly the biggest deficiencies in his game.

I'm confident the penny will drop for Clark eventually, just hope it's sooner rather than later.

 

[gringo2011]

I'm confident the penny will drop for Clark eventually, just hope it's sooner rather than later.

Before injury he was looking like he was playing well. It was shit timing.

 

[plugger66]

Clark is an interesting one. He's had some good games on ball but not really sure who he pushes out of the midfield, especially with Jones coming back. If so and he plays some on ball and rotates off a HBF who does he push out of there. Webster plays tight and probably more Coffield's rival and also has Highmore to contend with. Lienert adds something different with long kicking, Paton plays a pure tight stopper role so not the same and Sinclair is a star.

McKenzie gets named in the back 6 but plays wing. Long, Dmac, Hayes, Lienert and Wood look like the guys that are closer to the borderline than others but all would be very unlucky to lose a spot.

It might be that a guy like Jones has to play HBF/mid and share the role with Clark.

I’m a Ross fan but if Clark is a better mid he pushes him out. He won’t start as a mid but will play 10 or so minutes in there initially. He will just rotate from the backline. Lienart is going to stop him playing there. There are still plenty of players who can come out for Clark to play half back and have the occasional run in the midfield. Once fit enough and if in form then maybe it’s Ross.

 

[plugger66]

I hope Naz plays the rest of the season or at least until he looks too tired to continue. Windy almost certainly steps out for Jones.

Nothing wrong with both being dropped at some stage. If they are playing well then fine but the minute they drop off then out they go.

 

[Minga]

Jones and Billings probably offer more because they’re more senior players, but I actually think Clark is the one who would fit into our team the best despite not having an obvious position.

It’s a bit of a weird call, but his style of play (silk, evasion, more grit then meets the eye) would really just add more class to our team.

Jones would heighten our run and gun, and Billings is a cherry on top who could get off the leash if he’s not a focal point of the team, but Clark actually provides something which we don’t really have any of in the side. He’s a bit like a Sinclair. Except if Sinclairs power is to speed things up, Clark’s is to slow time down (in a good way). Essentially, he’d add another weapon to our ball movement.

Ideally all 3 plus Ryder are in the side in 2 weeks time and if they’re match fit. And that is a really really good team on paper and potential. Would love to keep a kid in as well, namely NVM, as I think it does wonders for the team as a whole.

Tough as to who comes out but that’ll probably be dependent on whose in/out of form when those 4 players return. You want that though, you want our depth to be best 22 quality because that really amps up the selection pressure.

Coffield in for Lienert next year means we get that intercepting defender. Plus hit the draft again you’d think.

So idk who’d we actually target in the trade period. A Key defender would mean one of Battle or Howard goes out of the best 22 and I don’t see that happening. Maybe another forward - but I don’t see us wanting them more then other teams who need forwards badly. More mids then I guess. Ideally this years Cerra equivalent or this years Lipinski equivalent.

 

[PostmanBish]

I’m a Ross fan but if Clark is a better mid he pushes him out. He won’t start as a mid but will play 10 or so minutes in there initially. He will just rotate from the backline. Lienart is going to stop him playing there. There are still plenty of players who can come out for Clark to play half back and have the occasional run in the midfield. Once fit enough and if in form then maybe it’s Ross.

One thing we're going to have to accept ... in 12 months we're going to have an awesome problem at the selection table each week whenever our list is moderately healthy.

 

[Curunir]

I think Clarke will slot straight into the backline and rotate in the middle a little bit. Sinclair and Clarke will be serious weapons off the half backline.

 

[Jade Buddha]

I’m a Ross fan but if Clark is a better mid he pushes him out. He won’t start as a mid but will play 10 or so minutes in there initially. He will just rotate from the backline. Lienart is going to stop him playing there. There are still plenty of players who can come out for Clark to play half back and have the occasional run in the midfield. Once fit enough and if in form then maybe it’s Ross.

Can’t see Ross coming out for anyone atm. His form line is so stable. Doesn’t seem to make the same mistakes he was highly criticised for. He just seems calm and decisive.

 

[plugger66]

Can’t see Ross coming out for anyone atm. His form line is so stable. Doesn’t seem to make the same mistakes he was highly criticised for. He just seems calm and decisive.

He is in fine form but let’s wait until we play better sides. Our midfield still lacks star power. Gresh is a huge in. I think Clark can also make a huge difference. Both are completely different to the other 3 mids.

 

[jwikked]

One thing we're going to have to accept ... in 12 months we're going to have an awesome problem at the selection table each week whenever our list is moderately healthy.

Problem with this is it leads to decent players asking to be traded, which isn't something we've really had to deal with much for 10 years lol