List Mgmt. 2023 List Management and Trading

[Mostyn]

Don’t think they’ll bite at the Doedee compo, particularly as it might be Band 4, at this point

You’d be best trying to convince a team two picks either side of that GC 2nd to either give a F3 for an upgrade, or get a F3 for a downgrade

Yeah, it depends where Doedee falls (and if he leaves). Band 3 seems very gettable, as he only needs to be in the top 35% of the AFL - and we might get thrown a favour by the AFL ...

But you're right, we can move the GCS pick as well.

 

[GROTTO]

I would play my mother in law before RoB

I dont know her AFL background, but Im certain thats an upgrade too.

 

[GROTTO]

Don't be surprised if Port come for Borlase.

Especially as I suspect that they will land Grundy, but not have the ability to get Ratu from the Cats.

I really liked Borlase, I hope we keep him.

 

[BRL121]

I would play my mother in law before RoB

Can she get off the ground?

 

[Gtowncrow]

Both JHF and Rozee were targeted traded upgrades .....some would say, they sold the farm ....but I support that approach wholeheartedly

Only proviso is ....not when we were rebuilding, as we needed to many jigsaw pieces .....I do say now though, we're in a position to give up Draft Capital, for a targeted player

While we're theorising and just for fun... Would you trade TT for pick 1 this year??

 

[rabidcrow]

What do you judge that on?
I posted a few weeks ago our CBA stats and these weren’t the results.
We look to have very little appetite for Rankine to be a mid.

Agreed. Swap Rankine for Pedlar and that’s more like it.


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[rabidcrow]

Don't be surprised if Port come for Borlase.

Assuming he comes off our list they may well rookie him. I doubt they come for trade - and if we have a way to keep him with an extension of the rookie list we keep him


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[rabidcrow]

I think Suns have just enough points as it stands, at the moment

So they probably would be fine with a small downgrade as long as they’re getting a good F1

Getting a team to bite at a downgrade to the GC 2nd, so we can on-trade that upgraded pick as part of our package, will be the tricky part

We have 47 as well - worth 316 pts.


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[Danger in Texas]

We have 47 as well - worth 316 pts.


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Do we? I didn’t think we had any 3rd or 4th rounders?

 

[cm_perfect]

Can she get off the ground?

Yeah, not these days but you are not getting around her though!!

 

[rabidcrow]

I think that regardless of what phase you’re in, you can target a high class midfielder. Especially when your midfield relies largely on Crouch, Sloane, Keays and Laird.

Rebuild you need quantity - I would happily give up all of our draft capital this year (including any compo and trade) for the chance to get McKercher.


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[Crow till I die]

Do we? I didn’t think we had any 3rd or 4th rounders?

Collingwood 3rd rounder

 

[Gtowncrow]

Rebuild you need quantity - I would happily give up all of our draft capital this year (including any compo and trade) for the chance to get McKercher.


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Agree. The list and our apparent "poised" position as a club and team suggests this might well be a suitable time for a "sell the farm" trade/draft period.

 

[1970crow]

Youth in early season .....experience later in the year ....24 game season is a lot for young bodies: Rachelle, Soligo in year 2, with no-where near the fitness, or resilience to handle big AFL bodies for long periods

Use to be a thing, Rookies would be played in 3 game blocks, then given recovery time ....I think it explains Nankervis, but also there were periods of games, Keane looked exhausted

I guess despite the best fitness guy in the land, our junior mids need longer than their contemporaries.

 

[1970crow]

Look at how Port handled Rozee and Butters. Rozee had very little time in midfield in his first couple of years. People started to say he wouldn’t live up to his pick 5 status even at the start of last year.
Butters got more midfield time early on - and what did that do for him. Several decent injuries as his body couldn’t stand up.

I thought the plan was clear this year. Pedlar and Rachele have started to develop as mids with Sloane on managed game time taking the brunt of the physical stuff off them.
Unfortunately - and particularly as the year wore on - he wasn’t up to being good enough to do the role effectively

But I think the rational behind the two younger guys was sound and reasonable


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Or that as finals approaches and the pressure dials up, we revert to type, as we’ve always done. And what of Rankine, he’s been in the system for a while, why wasn’t he favoured ahead of Sloane?

 

[Mostyn]

Collingwood 3rd rounder

No, we traded that during the draft last year.

5. Adelaide gets 43, Suns’ future Round 2 and Cats’ future Round 3 - Gold Coast gets 79, Crows’ future Round 2 and Magpies’ future Round 3

6. Adelaide gets 50 - Brisbane gets Cats’ future Round 3

 

[1970crow]

Rachele and Soligo played as midfielder in the first 8 weeks of the season and were excellent then tired so Sloane was used, Pedlar played as a midfielder at the back end of the season with Sloane moved out of the midfield and was very good. Rankine played up the ground and was excellent, has shown he has the tank to transition to the midfield. There is our future elite midfield moving forward.

Interesting that other second year mids can last the season. Maybe their fitness guys are better or tutor coaches manage them better. Which do you think is correct.

 

[Tex Danger]

No, we traded that during the draft last year.

5. Adelaide gets 43, Suns’ future Round 2 and Cats’ future Round 3 - Gold Coast gets 79, Crows’ future Round 2 and Magpies’ future Round 3

6. Adelaide gets 50 - Brisbane gets Cats’ future Round 3

Gee that was a good trade for us

In: 43 (last year) and 22, 43 (this year)
Out: 79 (last year), and 27, ?52-54

Winners on every line

 

[ABAB]

Interesting that other second year mids can last the season. Maybe their fitness guys are better or tutor coaches manage them better. Which do you think is correct.

And did any of those 2nd year midfielder you are talking about play more midfield in their 1st season?

 

[WeeBlake]

And did any of those 2nd year midfielder you are talking about play more midfield in their 1st season?

Sample size is too small. Some second year players (even a few first year players) can go a full year with high minutes and kms, but plenty don’t hit their straps until later.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Collingwood 3rd rounder

Thought we gave that away for Bond

Edit: what Mostyn said

 

[rabidcrow]

Do we? I didn’t think we had any 3rd or 4th rounders?

From what I can see looking at the list we have our own 3rd


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[Danger in Texas]

From what I can see looking at the list we have our own 3rd


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GC has it, we traded it to them in the Rankine deal I think

 

[GROTTO]

GC has it, we traded it to them in the Rankine deal I think

I was hoping at the time we could have given the Suns our future first, being our 2023 1st last year.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I was hoping at the time we could have given the Suns our future first, being our 2023 1st last year.

Given GC knew they were gonna have Walter/Read/Rogers coming through the ranks, they would’ve never considered that sadly

Ultimately it’s gonna end up a win-win, both Rankine and Humphrey are guns