List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread - Pt2 Now With Added Wailing & Gnashing of Teeth

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Hello Dockers fans!

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Order, aka Future Picks

Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Who has said that? They have been given 2 end of first round picks… if north finish bottom 4 they’ll be before any compo FA picks

That's what I thought but it was apparently confirmed on trade radio as not how it works, as in, they specifically addressed the question

 

[Sewell21]

Schultz is a perfect example of this. Lived with Acres, Hogan, very good mates with Lobb, Logue, and Tucker. Their partners are all close with each other. Then all of a sudden five of your best mates head over east. You've still got some strong connections at the club, but nothing close to what you had before. Your partner has suddenly lost a whole bunch of close friends, which is definitely going to affect her desire to stay in a state she doesn't want to live in.

Then you get an offer for 5 years to move back to a state where you have your whole family, your partners whole family, and all of the strongest connections you built while you were in Perth. There's no incentive to stay at freo anymore.

Well firstly Lobb doesnt have any friends so

 

[Carnthedockers]

Haha you can dream all you want but don’t be too disappointed when the trade is 19 or a future 1st with a sweetener.

You have to take the punt on them dropping from top spot don’t you?

 

[Cobbler]

Y’all thought I was joking about secret handshakes.

Shoota didn’t have one.

In other words, expendable.

 

[Carnthedockers]

Well firstly Lobb doesnt have any friends so

Turns out he’s mates with hammer Go figure

 

[Sewell21]

Because he doesn't want to come here.

Neither did Josh Kennedy.

 

[Carson Dial]

Is there a reason that people are getting things wrong so often this year? Feel like every 5th post is someone correcting someone else

Has the AFL DTFA system got too complicated for the average fan?

Not sure if you realised you missed the full stop at the end of your second sentence.

 

[King Tenz]

From a flog pies fan account granted, but it sounds very much like the kinda thing freo might have said to Schultz in the backchat pod clip when he started telling a story to Schofield about a choice that Freo gave him in the 2020 off season then stopped and said “they have me a choice…. actually no, I’m not going to go there”

If true…. Hard to defend. He’d just played every game that covid season. 17/17.

Here at 2:30

Sounds like BS. Can't just force someone to a team.

 

[King Tenz]

Come and join the rest of us over at the SFA. Much better distraction. And the passion is welcomed.

serial_thrilla King Tenz

Yes. Join us s_wd6 in the weird and wonderful world of Sweet.

 

[oldgoat]

I think he is gone but you'd have to be an idiot to not see the benefit in Schultz playing another year here...

Look at Lobb when we held him a year, kicked 37 and lead our forwardline, we made finals

But...
if you believe 2025 is the year for the big push...
better he goes now, and someone whos staying for the final ascent kicks those 37 goals?

 

[Sewell21]

Collingwood have an opportunity to upgrade their current pick 19 to Swans pick 12 with the Taylor Adams

3

Taylor Adams

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.9

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.4

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.4

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.9

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

18.2

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

trade, which ‘might‘ meet our demands.

If we rate Collard as high as Twomey suggests others do, then that will be the only way we get him.

 

[BigRang]

After all of this hoo-hah I would go after Ooorraazzzioooo Faantaasssiiaaaahhh if I was Overlord Bell
Would be cheap and knows how to kick goals. Make the Merry-Man earn his keep and get him on the park.


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[sumavich]

Collard won't be an instant sugar hit.
He'll take time.
But he'd be who I'd go for. He'll bring people to the footy.
He's got arrogance, we definitely need more arrogance.
We are so f'ing vanilla, just like the Mgt

 

[Stinky Lomax]

Exclusive footage of Tommy Emmett driving Lachie Schultz to the airport.
At least someone’s happy.

 

[Superkoops]

I reckon it will be 19 and the pick Collingwood get for Adam’s (Sydney currently have pick 25).

Pick 19 will slide a bit, but at least one of picks used to match a bid (likely for Jed Walter) will be before 19. Gold Coast have 11 and 18. They seem likely to keep 18 for bid matching. If 18 is used for Walter then 19 doesn’t move for Walter but will move for their other two academy picks and Croft. So probs end up around 22.

Just another thought Collingwood could trade for GC pick 11 (say F1 and pick for Adam’s).

Would we be satisfied with the following trade for Schultz:
11 > Schultz

 

[Nodgey]

While I like the idea of keeping Schultz and potentially getting decent UFA compo next year, you just know the AFL will up and change the calculations we end up with a pick in the 40s…

Of course, if we do trade him now then next years rule changes will be in the other direction and we’ll be ruing missing out on a sweet first rounder. It’s the Freo way. ****ed whatever we do.

 

[ilikepotatoes]

While I like the idea of keeping Schultz and potentially getting decent UFA compo next year, you just know the AFL will up and change the calculations we end up with a pick in the 40s…

Of course, if we do trade him now then next years rule changes will be in the other direction and we’ll be ruing missing out on a sweet first rounder. It’s the Freo way. ****ed whatever we do.

This.

The club should be asking the AFL to confirm whether there will be changes to free agency compensation next year and getting an answer in writing.

There's no point holding him if they change how picks are calculated.

 

[Dockeroo]

I reckon it will be 19 and the pick Collingwood get for Adam’s (Sydney currently have pick 25).

Pick 19 will slide a bit, but at least one of picks used to match a bid (likely for Jed Walter) will be before 19. Gold Coast have 11 and 18. They seem likely to keep 18 for bid matching. If 18 is used for Walter then 19 doesn’t move for Walter but will move for their other two academy picks and Croft. So probs end up around 22.

Just another thought Collingwood could trade for GC pick 11 (say F1 and pick for Adam’s).

Would we be satisfied with the following trade for Schultz:
11 > Schultz

11 for Schultz? Would take that and run. Can’t see how that happens.

We need their F1. That’s the best draft asset they hold.

 

[bfff]

For you, go_the_dockers

1 week ago 5 minutes before Walls 6pr debut

Bell, standing on a stool, strains his neck and feet to reach eye level of Walls who is sitting down and hunched over, face the picture of determination. "Now David" Bell speaks slowly and with intent "Remember, under no circumstance do we tell the media what pick we want for a player"

"Yarp, pick 4 four a player, yarp" Walls responds.

Smack goes the sound of palm of hand to face

Bell shakes his head and starts again looking him dead in the eyes

"No. tell. media. what. want..."

"Yarp, yarp, no tell media what want, Walls knows" as he gives Bell two thumbs up with a confident grin to go with it (well, one hand with a thumbs up and one with a pinky but it was close enough)

Bell, returns the two thumbs and nods as he hands Walls the phone to talk to Papalia and heads out the door with JL

"I umm, dont really umm know if his drafting is ahhh, worth it Peter" a befuddled JL exclaims

"Are you kidding, the mans a drafting prophet and look..." Bell turns up the radio

The slightly static voice of Walls comes over the radio "Is good question Pappas we think he worth lots"

"He's got it now" chimes Bell

9am, day 1 trade period

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"1st round good but we take early 2nd"

Bell, watching on in despair reaches into his pocket and hands JL a freshly minted pineapple

I feel like a fly on the wall...
I have one edit to suggest though...

Bell shakes his head and starts again looking him dead in the eyes

Bell stares with his cold, dead eyes and shakes his head.

 

[DragoDelph]

I feel like a fly on the wall...
I have one edit to suggest though...

Bell shakes his head and starts again looking him dead in the eyes

Bell stares with his cold, dead eyes and shakes his head.

He’d have to remove the sunnies first

 

[bfff]

He’d have to remove the sunnies first

Were they on a train?

 

[Van_Dyke]

so has shoota come out and said it was all for a laugh yet?

 

[Purple Jesus]

Were they on a train?

At night?!?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

With the help of a Melbourne poster, I have determined the Schultz solution.

Sydney
Out: 12, 33
In: 19, Adams, Grundy

Collingwood
Out: Adams, 19
In: Schultz

Freo:
Out: Schultz
In: 14

Melbourne
Out: Grundy, 14
In: 12, 33

Winners? Losers?

 

[rgauci]

With the help of a Melbourne poster, I have determined the Schultz solution.

Sydney
Out: 12, 33
In: 19, Treloar, Grundy

Collingwood
Out: Treloar, 19
In: Schultz

Freo:
Out: Schultz
In: 14

Melbourne
Out: Grundy, 14
In: 12, 33

Winners? Losers?

You mean Adams