Preview 2023 Rd 16 - Carlton v Hawthorn Sunday 2nd July - 1:10PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in ...





IN: Ed Curnow, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

OUT: Matthew Cottrell (suspension), Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

(knee soreness), Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

AFL team news: Dual additions for Blues

Carlton has named two additions to its Round 16 team.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Brodie Kemp	Jacob Weitering	Jordan Boyd
Half-backs:	Nic Newman	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Sam Walsh
Half-forwards:	Jack Silvagni	Charlie Curnow	Jack Martin
Forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Harry McKay	David Cuningham
Followers:	Tom De Koning	Adam Cerra	Sam Docherty
Interchange:	Alex Cincotta	Ed Curnow	Matthew Kennedy
	Matthew Owies
Emergencies:	Jaxon Binns	George Hewett	Josh Honey
	Lewis Young

 

[carlton_99]

People do realise the actual team is not named until tomorrow, yeah?
Some tremendous assumptions being made about selection … based seemingly on outrage alone.

Why meltdown once when you can meltdown twice

 

[Blue and Blue]

We know the club would have moved him on last year if he wasn't contracted, so that wouldn't surprise me. His focus is probably more on trying to get another club to give him a gig on their rookie list next year.

He isn't the future and he isn't pivotal to our future success, I don't understand why people insist on spending all this time talking about him.

Clubs have traded out plenty of better players than Paddy over the years with a lot less fuss.

I have my doubts if any of the criticism about wether Dow plays or not is really about wether Dows plays or not. Or Binns, or name your guy...
I fancy its just an excuse to find fault in things for the sake of it.
I mean hellfires even when we win we win the wrong way. What hope ever?

 

[JJBagger]

We know the club would have moved him on last year if he wasn't contracted, so that wouldn't surprise me. His focus is probably more on trying to get another club to give him a gig on their rookie list next year.

He isn't the future and he isn't pivotal to our future success, I don't understand why people insist on spending all this time talking about him.

Clubs have traded out plenty of better players than Paddy over the years with a lot less fuss.

Can see him going to another club, having a great half a year, fading into being a fringe player at an average club, then no one ever talking about him again. Those will be the days

 

[macky99]

Think everyone knows you're anti Dow mate, you even started a thread on it...

Blind Freddie can see Dow has contributed, when given the opportunity as Sub the last 3 weeks...
How that translates to a full game who knows, looks like he won't be given the opportunity so we can all only speculate...

Though, Dow's 3 quarters as Sub has produced more, than any of Curnow, Hewett or Honey's quarters this year...

Absolutely spot on, it is a complete head in the sand stuff, we are bottom 6, we are past caring now another club will benefit next year.

Vossy comments on Pitto upon signing his latest contract being durable, so far from reality, he is injured & missing for the 3rd year in a row.

 

[gab213]

I have my doubts if any of the criticism about wether Dow plays or not is really about wether Dows plays or not. Or Binns, or name your guy...
I fancy its just an excuse to find fault in things for the sake of it.
I mean hellfires even when we win we win the wrong way. What hope ever?

Precisely, there is no other explanation that makes sense , it just amazes me.

 

[norway blue]

Are we?

We just won our first game in 7 weeks without Hewitt and Ed, what makes anyone think we're a better team if one of those come back in, let alone if both do?

Sorry guys I'm ******* done. see ya's in trade week.

Stay solid mate. Keep posting. You concerned like all of us. Looking forward to the Hawks game. . Go Carlton.


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[Psychochook]

Concerning news re Pittonets recurring/continuing knee issues - it compromises the ruck rotations and forces the selection of Silvagni at the cost of some leg speed on the HFF and rotating height out of the forward line in the form of TDK. BY teh sounds of it it is also a situation likely to have to be managed for more than just this week.

Very different clearance dynamics now.

Nothing that Dow or Ed or Hewett included to excluded are going to address - no matter how much chatter is made about them on here.

Agree.

TDK needs to play a blinder.

 

[xDQ82x]

I wish Dow all the best, his new club will love him.

For those here who love him you have 10 odd weeks to watch him in the vfl.

I think we can put the dow discussion to bed now can't we?

 

[gab213]

Vossy comments on Pitto upon signing his latest contract being durable, so far from reality, he is injured & missing for the 3rd year in a row.

Everybody likes to talk about Pitto's contract but does anybody actually know the terms of that contract? Do you know what he's being paid, whether it's conditional on the number of games played etc? Are there terms for early termination of the contract if he doesn't meet certain KPIs?

None of us knows what people on the inside know. It's all just speculation on our part.

 

[Kruezing]

I hope TDK plays … otherwise I’d rather go in with no rucks whatsoever … please no Young no offense all due respect and all that …

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

If we lose TDK and have to rely on Pittonet, we are well and truly stuffed.

 

[Fridge42]

I still reckon Dow is treading water for someone else, in the NRL the players can nominate to change clubs the year before it happens, look at the Dragons right now their bloke wants to change teams now during the season. I'm convinced that Paddy has done a Henderson and all but jumped ship, and the club knows!!!! Why else would they continually go around him, someone please explain it.
People move on from Paddy, he's outa here

So we drop TDK too?

 

[Monty1978]

Everybody likes to talk about Pitto's contract but does anybody actually know the terms of that contract? Do you know what he's being paid, whether it's conditional on the number of games played etc? Are there terms for early termination of the contract if he doesn't meet certain KPIs?

None of us knows what people on the inside know. It's all just speculation on our part.

We know the terms , 4 years mate , even if we paid him a Big Mac meal every week it’s too much .. always injured and doesn’t play .. what’s the point

 

[gab213]

We know the terms , 4 years mate , even if we paid him a Big Mac meal every week it’s too much .. always injured and doesn’t play .. what’s the point

Do you know that the contract can't be terminated early under certain conditions?

 

[carlton_99]

Everybody likes to talk about Pitto's contract but does anybody actually know the terms of that contract? Do you know what he's being paid, whether it's conditional on the number of games played etc? Are there terms for early termination of the contract if he doesn't meet certain KPIs?

None of us knows what people on the inside know. It's all just speculation on our part.

Logic doesn't belong here take it elsewhere

 

[Beyond Blue]

I’m not nearly as worried about Dow getting dropped as I am Pitto’s knee injury history which as a ruckman is very problematic.

 

[norway blue]

So if TDK doesn’t come up it’s young to ruck ?


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[The Blue Weirdo]

Aggghhh I've missed the weekly Dow preview thread

I haven't looked, but has the Voss lost his gloss thread become active again?

 

[johnno73]

I have my doubts if any of the criticism about wether Dow plays or not is really about wether Dows plays or not. Or Binns, or name your guy...
I fancy its just an excuse to find fault in things for the sake of it.
I mean hellfires even when we win we win the wrong way. What hope ever?

I reckon baggers supporters on here are in the majority better than what you’re implying here…
If we go a bit deeper with the “name your guy” argument- most half lucid sofa kinda loving blues supporters may keenly observe that guys like Dow make us faster, a bit different, a bit less predictable, maybe even a bit better…
I watch along of even a few quarters of the best teams going around: Lions, Pies, Port shows how the game is being played. Interested in your thoughts. Go Blues.

 

[gab213]

Yeah, it's definitely the biggest concern to come from selection this week, we are in a spot of bother if TDK goes and Pitto continues to struggle next year.

 

[macky99]

Everybody likes to talk about Pitto's contract but does anybody actually know the terms of that contract? Do you know what he's being paid, whether it's conditional on the number of games played etc? Are there terms for early termination of the contract if he doesn't meet certain KPIs?

None of us knows what people on the inside know. It's all just speculation on our part.

What we do know is his durability is a major concern, & 4 years on this basis is risky.
If we lose TDK we are in trouble in this area, with Pitto battling to stay fit & healthy & his limitations.

 

[gab213]

What we do know is his durability is a major concern, & 4 years on this basis is risky.
If we lose TDK we are in trouble in this area, with Pitto battling to stay fit & healthy & his limitations.

I just posted something similar, it is certainly a concern. Although his limitations don't concern me so much, we are better when he's getting the ball to the midfielders.

 

[DirtyLeeds]

Now Ralphy reckons TDK is in big doubt.....

No Pitto (who for some stupid reason we gave extra years to!!), no other ruck other than stand in's like JSOS and Young, so maybe that's who we back in??

Give Haitch some time too as well when it's forward

 

[norway blue]

Yeah, it's definitely the biggest concern to come from selection this week, we are in a spot of bother if TDK goes and Pitto continues to struggle next year.

What if we win with no recognised ruck Gab.. what then .️


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[gab213]

What if we win with no recognised ruck Gab.. what then .️


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I wouldn't be relying on being able to do that too often, certainly not against the better clubs.