Preview 2023 Rd 18 Carlton vs Port Adelaide Saturday July 15 4:35PM @ Marvel Stadium

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …


IN: Tom De Koning

12

Tom De Koning

Age

25

Ht

201cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

2star

HO

1.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

1.5

5star

OUT: Matthew Kennedy (knee), Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

After starting last weekend as sub, George Hewett

29

George Hewett

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

has been elevated into the 22

AFL team news: De Koning named for return

Tom De Koning will return for Carlton this Saturday.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Brodie Kemp	Jacob Weitering	Nic Newman
Half-backs:	Jordan Boyd	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Sam Walsh
Half-forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Charlie Curnow	Matthew Owies
Forwards:	David Cuningham	Harry McKay	Jack Martin
Followers:	Tom De Koning	Adam Cerra	Sam Docherty
Interchange:	Alex Cincotta	Matthew Cottrell	George Hewett
	Jack Silvagni
Emergencies:	Paddy Dow	Ollie Hollands	Caleb Marchbank
	Jesse Motlop

 

[katmanblue]

We’ve been relatively lucky with injuries this year.


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[Matty411]

They have the pies after us at AO.

If I were Ken Hinkley, I'd be engineering a loss to Carlton this week to get the Port boys fired up for the Pies the week after.

Its the only sane course of action for them if you think about it

This has my full support. Easy out for them if they lose, too. From a Port pov, you'd rather lose against us and be fired up for the top of table clash than spend their final credits beating us then getting pumped by the filth.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

How many games has Marchbank now played in the VFL? Seems like he’s had enough for match fitness not to be an issue


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[ctwenty1]

This has my full support. Easy out for them if they lose, too. From a Port pov, you'd rather lose against us and be fired up for the top of table clash than spend their final credits beating us then getting pumped by the filth.

How do we get this very important strategy to Ken and Port?

Anyone with any connections?

 

[bradfisher14]

Most excited I've been for a game since Round 10 last year.

Hoping for the following changes if the likely outs do occur:

• Binns in for Kennedy. Allows us to rotate Walsh, Docherty, and Cuningham on the ball a bit more. Binns has been excellent in the VFL and gives us another mid/wing/forward rotation.
• Marchbank in for McGovern. Like for like somewhat. Marchy can play lockdown while Kemp provides the rebound we'll miss in Gov's absence.
• De Koning in for Cincotta. This only happens if TDK is absolutely cherry ripe for Saturday. This move releases Young to play on one of the Port talls. Sink's very stiff to miss out but we're carrying 8 backmen and he's the most expendable at this moment in time.

 

[blueblooded]

They're due for a loss surely.

And we are coming in with a wet sail!

in fact we are coming home with a wet sail...

we have nothing to lose for the rest of the year, as far as I am concerned i've ridden it off. the fact this is now in our hands again off the back of the 9 weeks of deplorable footy we dished up goes to show how even this competition is from 5th to 15th - there's bugger all in it, don't listen to any pundits tell you otherwise - 15 of the 18 teams are capable of playing finals and the ladder proves it.

just need to bring what we've been bringing the last 3 games and we are up to our neck in every game we play including against port, pies and dees. we have the weapons to worry all of them. just need to stay focused every game and run and gun like we have been and we are in this year no doubt about it.

 

[Sector 7G]

How many games has Marchbank now played in the VFL? Seems like he’s had enough for match fitness not to be an issue


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Has played 2 on the trot after not playing for at least 3 weeks.

Had 6 possessions against the Bullants and 22 against Coburg. Not sure if he was still on the ground in the last quarter when we gave up 7 in a row.

 

[Arr0w]

If we win, unlikely to be in the 8 end of the round, but strong chance we are in the 8 a week later

Then, it's up to us

12 1/2 still reliant on percentage, 13 wins (yes another draw) gets us in

 

[Matty411]

How do we get this very important strategy to Ken and Port?

Anyone with any connections?

I'll have my people talk to his people (I'll tweet the club publicly).

 

[ctwenty1]

If we win, unlikely to be in the 8 end of the round, but strong chance we are in the 8 a week later

Then, it's up to us

12 1/2 still reliant on percentage, 13 wins (yes another draw) gets us in

barring injury, we are not losing for the remainder of the year

 

[Juddrockz]

We need some height in defence to play on Dickson, Marshall and Finlayson. Marchbank or Durdin need to play is Gov is out and TDK doesn't play

Finlayson is a bigger threat than Dixon. Finlayson has been playing out of his skin of late. Dixon's only running on 2 cyclinders atm.

 

[Graffy4242]

I don't think Hewett should be the replacement for Kennedy as he looks out of touch but I expect that is what will happen.

Don't think he's played a good game the entire year unfortunately. Hampered by injury but he's regressed from the high standard of last season.

 

[Jimmae]

Lol Boyd isn't getting rested

why even bother suggestion O'Brien

I want you both to know that I'm reading these posts in the voice of an angry 12 year old who got their first taste of power on the internet. Hopefully I don't need to explain how I would further respond

Boyd tracking to be our best small defender since Matthew Hogg. Someone is just fishing here.

He was categorically our worst player yesterday, and he was regularly showing the same signs of fatigue as Kennedy throughout the match. We need to rotate some players above and beyond covering for injury, which I did mean to cover in my original post.

We spent too many petrol tickets yesterday, and it's a 6-day interstate turnaround. Incredibly important to rotate just to be competitive, and thinking ahead to the rest of the fixture, instead of a game that we're still likely to lose, and that will not make a dent in the teams that are in the same band of performance as us, like Melbourne, GWS & St Kilda.

Go back and watch the last 15 minutes of the game, and see how out of gas we were. Go back and watch Boyd failing to register a single inside 50, nor more than one rebound 50, or one spoil. This is one of two games that we are unlikely to win, but that we should be at least put out a properly fit football side for.

But you know what the weirdest thing about your statement - which yet another one line jab at my posts without any real explanation - is? The total lack of respect this comment shows to Adam Saad's defensive work, and then to a lesser extent the disrespect shown to the following players:

• Andrew McKay
• Kade Simpson
• Zach Tuohy
• Ciaran Byrne
• Ryan Houlihan
• Matthew Lappin

Just wow

 

[Lukey Skywalker]

Don't think he's played a good game the entire year unfortunately. Hampered by injury but he's regressed from the high standard of last season.

Round 1 he was prob our best & then broke hand & hasn't been the same since

 

[Bletch]

A look at what's to come.

Melbourne (40): Bris, Ade, Rich, NM (Tas), Car, Haw, Syd (SCG).
.........................5/7 at the 'G. Decent chance to win in all 7, but 3-4 iffy. Range: 3-7 wins (52-68). Predict: 5 wins, 2 losses. (60)
Essendon (36): Gee (Gee), WBU, Syd, WCE, NM, GWS (GS), Col (MCG).
.........................2 probable losses, but otherwise good run. Range: 2-6 wins (44-60). Predict: 4 wins, 3 losses (52)
St Kilda (36): GCS (HBS), NM, Haw, Car, Rich, Gee, Bris (Gabba).
.........................2 interstate trips, but remainder at Marvel. Range: 2-6 wins (44-60). Predict: 4 wins, 3 losses (52)
W Bulldogs (36): Syd (SCG), Ess, GWS (Mars), Rich, Haw (Tas), WCE, Gee (Gee).
.........................Bit of traveling to do, but most winnable. Range: 2-7 wins (44-64). Predict: 4 wins, 3 losses (52)
Geelong (34): Ess, Bris (Gabba), Freo, Port, Coll (MCG), StK (Marv), WBU.
.........................Toughish run, with top 3 to come, though 4 home games. Range: 1-6 wins (38-58). Predict: 3 wins, 4 losses (46)
Adelaide (32): GWS, Mel (MCG), PA, Suns, Bris (Gabba), Syd, WCE (OS).
.........................Enough home games to come. Range: 4-5 wins (48-52). Predict: 4 wins, 3 losses. (48)
GWS (32): Ade (Ade), Suns (ACT), WBU (Mars), Syd, PA (Ade), Ess, Car (Marv).
.........................No gimme games. Range: 0-4 wins (32-48). Predict: 2 wins, 5 losses. (40)
Carlton (30): PA (Marv), WCE (Marv), Coll (MCG), StK (Marv), Melb (MCG), Suns (HBS), GWS (Marv).
.........................Range: 2-6 wins (38-54). Predict: 4 wins, 3 losses. (46)
Richmond (30): WCE (OS), Haw, Melb, WBU (Marv), StK (Marv), NM, PA (Ade).
.........................Not a bad run - bottom 3 to play. Range: 3-6 wins (42-54). Predict: 4 wins, 3 losses (46)

By this, 5 wins from the remaining 7 matches (total 12.5 wins) is a decent chance of snatching 8th spot. 4 wins is unlikely.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Most excited I've been for a game since Round 10 last year.

Hoping for the following changes if the likely outs do occur:

• Binns in for Kennedy. Allows us to rotate Walsh, Docherty, and Cuningham on the ball a bit more. Binns has been excellent in the VFL and gives us another mid/wing/forward rotation.
• Marchbank in for McGovern. Like for like somewhat. Marchy can play lockdown while Kemp provides the rebound we'll miss in Gov's absence.
• De Koning in for Cincotta. This only happens if TDK is absolutely cherry ripe for Saturday. This move releases Young to play on one of the Port talls. Sink's very stiff to miss out but we're carrying 8 backmen and he's the most expendable at this moment in time.

I doubt Voss and the match committee would be thinking about debuting Binns in such a big game against a real quality opposition.
I wouldn't be straying from the formula we've used over the last 3 games so the changes should be as close to like-for-like as possible.
If Kennedy misses then Hewett comes in to play the same role.
If Gov misses then Marchbank comes in to play the same role.
If TDK is fit then one of Young and Sos drop out of the 22.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

TDK to come in
If McGovern misses Young/Durdin
Kennedy unfortune & a big loss

 

[Kruezing]

At this stage, I'm thinking...

OUT: Kennedy (knee), Young, Boyd (rest), McGovern (quad)
IN: Dow, TDK, Cowan, Marchbank

One of Binns, O'Brien, and Hollands as sub.

I like those four ins I’d rather Boyd remain in though …

 

[bigblueboy]

I want you both to know that I'm reading these posts in the voice of an angry 12 year old who got their first taste of power on the internet. Hopefully I don't need to explain how I would further respond


He was categorically our worst player yesterday, and he was regularly showing the same signs of fatigue as Kennedy throughout the match. We need to rotate some players above and beyond covering for injury, which I did mean to cover in my original post.

We spent too many petrol tickets yesterday, and it's a 6-day interstate turnaround. Incredibly important to rotate just to be competitive, and thinking ahead to the rest of the fixture, instead of a game that we're still likely to lose, and that will not make a dent in the teams that are in the same band of performance as us, like Melbourne, GWS & St Kilda.

Go back and watch the last 15 minutes of the game, and see how out of gas we were. Go back and watch Boyd failing to register a single inside 50, nor more than one rebound 50, or one spoil. This is one of two games that we are unlikely to win, but that we should be at least put out a properly fit football side for.

But you know what the weirdest thing about your statement - which yet another one line jab at my posts without any real explanation - is? The total lack of respect this comment shows to Adam Saad's defensive work, and then to a lesser extent the disrespect shown to the following players:

• Andrew McKay
• Kade Simpson
• Zach Tuohy
• Ciaran Byrne
• Ryan Houlihan
• Matthew Lappin

Just wow

You clearly have no idea whatsoever what role Boyd is expected to play.
He was fantastic yesterday.
And this is the first time I’ve ever seen Ryan Houlihan and Matthew Lappin mentioned as small defenders.
The absurdity of your reality must be a fun place to live.

 

[CJMB]

I want you both to know that I'm reading these posts in the voice of an angry 12 year old who got their first taste of power on the internet. Hopefully I don't need to explain how I would further respond


He was categorically our worst player yesterday, and he was regularly showing the same signs of fatigue as Kennedy throughout the match. We need to rotate some players above and beyond covering for injury, which I did mean to cover in my original post.

We spent too many petrol tickets yesterday, and it's a 6-day interstate turnaround. Incredibly important to rotate just to be competitive, and thinking ahead to the rest of the fixture, instead of a game that we're still likely to lose, and that will not make a dent in the teams that are in the same band of performance as us, like Melbourne, GWS & St Kilda.

Go back and watch the last 15 minutes of the game, and see how out of gas we were. Go back and watch Boyd failing to register a single inside 50, nor more than one rebound 50, or one spoil. This is one of two games that we are unlikely to win, but that we should be at least put out a properly fit football side for.

But you know what the weirdest thing about your statement - which yet another one line jab at my posts without any real explanation - is? The total lack of respect this comment shows to Adam Saad's defensive work, and then to a lesser extent the disrespect shown to the following players:

• Andrew McKay
• Kade Simpson
• Zach Tuohy
• Ciaran Byrne
• Ryan Houlihan
• Matthew Lappin

Just wow

Come on, Jim. How far down the pecking order is he now? He’s hardly banging the door down with consistent performances in the reserves each week. What makes you think he’s a legitimate option to be promoted into a team that’s got a 172 point differential over the past 3 games?

Also if it helps putting on a character voice when you read aloud, then good for you.

 

[Monty1978]

Went to the ressies game and seriously everyone played well.. was like watching us play a high school team .. I actually thought coburg were gutsy with how small and raw they looked .. I could have played well on Saturday if I was wearing a baggers jumper.
I want Dow to play but can’t see it happening.

Hewitt for Kennedy
Tdk for McGovern

Young to go back and cincotta as sub

 

[CJMB]

Went to the ressies game and seriously everyone played well.. was like watching us play a high school team .. I actually thought coburg were gutsy with how small and raw they looked .. I could have played well on Saturday if I was wearing a baggers jumper.
I want Dow to play but can’t see it happening.

Hewitt for Kennedy
Tdk for McGovern

Young to go back and cincotta as sub

Bold strategy to play with 21 and a sub.

You’ve got Hewett and Cincotta swapping between the 22 and sub, Kennedy and Gov out but only TDK coming in.

Out: Kennedy, Gov
In: TDK, ?

 

[Monty1978]

Bold strategy to play with 21 and a sub.

You’ve got Hewett and Cincotta swapping between the 22 and sub, Kennedy and Gov out but only TDK coming in.

Out: Kennedy, Gov
In: TDK, ?

Oh yeah sorry mate .. umm play another runner I reckon I assume curnow and Hewitt will play .. voss loves those 2

 

[Jimmae]

How many games has Marchbank now played in the VFL? Seems like he’s had enough for match fitness not to be an issue

He's been back for two games, both of which he has sat out at least a quarter, but I think he'll be match fit enough if McGovern is going to sit out a week due to bruising in his quad.

You clearly have no idea whatsoever what role Boyd is expected to play.
He was fantastic yesterday.

This sounds like a wonderful defence of him, except there's not really any evidence to support your position, either in his statistical output, or that of the kinds of players he was matched up on, and he offered even less offensive output than last week.

Then there's his 50% kicking efficiency, including one instance where he tried to go for a short run, barely made it up to his team mate, and sprayed the kick as he could barely keep his balance. He's out of gas at the moment, and he's not alone.

In your mind, what role and opponents do you see him playing against Port, and what do you think his current output would result in for the match? Would he manage a job for us, would he thoroughly beat his opponent, or would he continue on his current downward form trend as his fitness continues to fail him?

And this is the first time I’ve ever seen Ryan Houlihan and Matthew Lappin mentioned as small defenders.
The absurdity of your reality must be a fun place to live.

They both ended their careers as rebounding defenders that played against small forwards. You're sitting here telling me about Matthew Hogg, but did you just tune out the proceeding 24 years?

Seeing as you've dodged the question, I'm going to ask you again: why do you have so little respect for Adam Saad?

Come on, Jim. How far down the pecking order is he now? He’s hardly banging the door down with consistent performances in the reserves each week. What makes you think he’s a legitimate option to be promoted into a team that’s got a 172 point differential over the past 3 games?

Also if it helps putting on a character voice when you read aloud, then good for you.

He's in the selection mix, along with the other 2 outside runners, so I put him in the pile. They all played similarly against Coburg, and we'll need run at the end of the match.

Did you watch the game, or are you having a tantrum upon the mentioning of O'Brien like 90% of people on this forum, including people who claim to be industry professionals?

Stomp harder as you remonstrate: it's your foot that will feel it, not mine.

 

[Revenant1965]

All sorts of possibilities for team this week.
McGovern - will he or won't he play? (I'm guessing not).
Pitto and TDK - are either ready to go (I'd hazard a guess on one being available)
If either Pitto or TDK are available - what will be Young's or JSOS's roles?
Will someone like Binns, Cowan, Hollands, or even Carroll be a possibility (I liked an earlier suggestion that if Binns was to come in, Doch can be part of midfield rotation).
Marchbank- is he ready to go, and could he come in as a McGovern replacement if Gov is unavailable?
Dow, Ed, Hewett - how many posts will be put by people saying the same thing they've said 100 times before?
So many options and possibilities - but MC has done a pretty good job the past three weeks, as also players, coaches.
I felt confident with the GC, Hawks and Freo games, although margins were higher than I expected. This will be a great game.