Preview 2023 Rd 19 Carlton vs West Coast Saturday July 22 2:10PM @ Marvel Stadium

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …

*EDIT - UPDATE:

AFL team news: Martin out of Round 19

Jack Martin won't feature against West Coast.

www.carltonfc.com.au

IN: Lachie Cowan, Ed Curnow, Ollie Hollands, Josh Honey
OUT: Jordan Boyd (suspension), Adam Cerra (hamstring), Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

29

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

(cork), Harry McKay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

26

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

(knee), Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

(calf tightness.

AFL team news: Cripps, Cerra to miss as Blues name inclusions

Carlton has named four changes to its team of 22 against West Coast.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Nic Newman
Half-backs:	Brodie Kemp	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Sam Walsh	Oliver Hollands	Sam Docherty
Half-forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Josh Honey	Jesse Motlop
Forwards:	Jack Silvagni	Charlie Curnow	David Cuningham
Followers:	Tom De Koning	George Hewett	Blake Acres
Interchange:	Matthew Cottrell	Lachie Cowan	Ed Curnow
	Paddy Dow
Emergencies:	Jaxon Binns	Zac Fisher	Caleb Marchbank
	Lewis Young

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

​

In round 16, on Sunday July 2nd, the unthinkable almost happened.



The Weagles, at home in Perth, at Optus Stadium, lead the St Kilda Saints until early in the fourth quarter. Thankfully for Saints fans, their lads lifted and snatched an eight point win.



In that game, the early dominance of the Eagles was due to a few of the old guard - Shannon Hurn

25

Shannon Hurn

Age

37

Ht

187cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

15.7

5star

HB

5.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

389.5

5star

D

16.1

4star

K

12.1

5star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

271.6

4star

D

19.0

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

had 30 disposals, Alex Witherden

23

Alex Witherden

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

15.2

5star

HB

5.5

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.8

4star

MG

386.5

5star

D

13.0

3star

K

10.0

4star

HB

3.0

2star

M

7.0

5star

T

0.0

1star

MG

201.0

3star

D

24.0

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

8.6

5star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.2

4star

MG

380.2

5star

29, Shuey 28 and Sheed 25.



For round 17, WCE travelled to the Gabba and were demolished by the lions to the tune of 81 points. Duggan had 33, Witherden 27, Kelly 26… Hurn didn't play.



Yesterday, I wasted over two hours of my life watching the WCE play the Tigers in Perth – what a terrible spectacle – from both sides.


Hurn returned, ditto Shuey and SPS. Gaff omitted but won a last minute reprieve….

On paper the lineup looks OK. Jeremy McGovern

20

Jeremy Mcgovern

Age

32

Ht

197cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

4.6

3star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

238.7

4star

D

12.4

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

3star

MG

183.4

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

7.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

is back.

Aside from a 2 goal burst just before HT (in the last 90 seconds) and a 3 or 4 goal spurt after the HT break by RFC, the Eagles held their own with Richmond, who played poorly.


Key takeouts:

• Ginbey did a hammy, will be out for a few.
• Oscar Allen, badly injured his shoulder (?) early in the game, it looked bad. But he came back on and finished with three goals…might miss next week?
• The old WCE guard, and sure many have had injury ravaged seasons – but they looked miles off the pace – Duggan, Shuey, Cripps, Sheed, Gaff, even J. McGovern – shadows of their former selves.
• Bailey Williams goes ok in the ruck.
• SPS was SPS, but quite prominent. Tim Kelly
  11

  Tim Kelly

  Age

  30

  Ht

  184cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  23.6

  5star

  K

  13.5

  5star

  HB

  10.1

  5star

  M

  3.4

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  CL

  4.9

  5star

  D

  19.9

  5star

  K

  12.3

  5star

  HB

  7.6

  4star

  M

  3.1

  3star

  T

  4.7

  5star

  CL

  3.6

  4star

  D

  21.6

  5star

  K

  10.4

  4star

  HB

  11.2

  5star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  CL

  3.8

  5star

  was solid. Barrass ok, Darling....meh.
• I’d like to snaffle Elijah Hewett in a year or so once he’s had a gutful of losing.

Nonetheless the reality remains that the Eagles have only won one game all year, months ago, and their percentage is a paltry 48.2% (prior to the tigers match).

Their once vaunted back line and midfield are dust. Not sure where Yeo is at?

And as we all know they are five goal worse side when they travel to Melbourne.....

Without being overly arrogant, it really should be a question of how much the Blues. I guess 80++

Go Blues.

​

 

[Cringle]

McKay and Boyd may be our two forced changes.

Would bring back in Young and Cowan.

 

[Arr0w]

Hesitant to omit players after a win like that, especially with WC as our next opponent but more a watch and see

Kemp needs to narrow the extremities from sublime to ordinary. Needs to continue to focus on defensive acts first and foremost, spoil rather than thinking he can intercept at will. Marchbank could replace him unless he narrows that gap

Dow did some really solid, hard nosed work, but disposal still a concern, along with selling teammates into trouble. Needs to release to a wider option

But, I would leave both in the 23 for next week

Harry being injured throws up interesting options. Young most likely to come in as that 2nd KPF, chopout ruck.

Or, could Lemmey debut against a bottom of the table side?

Then there is O'Keeffe, who I think is a brilliant competitor

If it was me, O'Keeffe in for Harry

And no, Boyd won't be omitted

Out Harry, In O'Keeffe ( most likely it will be Young)

 

[FRUMPY]

Would be a good opportunity to bring in a Binns if we were to rest anyone

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[FRUMPY]

Hesitant to omit players after a win like that, especially with WC as our next opponent but more a watch and see

Kemp needs to narrow the extremities from sublime to ordinary. Needs to continue to focus on defensive acts first and foremost, spoil rather than thinking he can intercept at will. Marchbank could replace him unless he narrows that gap

Dow did some really solid, hard nosed work, but disposal still a concern, along with selling teammates into trouble. Needs to release to a wider option

But, I would leave both in the 23 for next week

Harry being injured throws up interesting options. Young most likely to come in as that 2nd KPF, chopout ruck.

Or, could Lemmey debut against a bottom of the table side?

Then there is O'Keeffe, who I think is a brilliant competitor

If it was me, O'Keeffe in for Harry

And no, Boyd won't be omitted

Out Harry, In O'Keeffe ( most likely it will be Young)

Boyd will probably go, free against and ended up concussed, probably get 2 weeks or life.

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[Sickblue]

Cowan for Boyd is a no brainer and after last week’s performance I think Young deserves first crack as Harry’s replacement. And this also allows Jsos to spend more time forward where he looked great tonight.

Hopefully Boyd only gets a week and Harry dodges the worst case scenario.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Boyd will 100% go for that tackle. Not a huge issue as he was one of our lesser performers. Cowan in for him.

Presuming McKay misses I'd bring in Young to play forward / 2nd ruck or Pitto with Tom to go forward.

No other changes

Mots holds his spot even if Owies is fit. Could swap Dow for Hewett as the starter. They were pretty even so tough call. As pointed out Kemp needs to improve his consistency to continue holding out Marchbank and Young.

 

[Gointocarlton]

Hesitant to omit players after a win like that, especially with WC as our next opponent but more a watch and see

Kemp needs to narrow the extremities from sublime to ordinary. Needs to continue to focus on defensive acts first and foremost, spoil rather than thinking he can intercept at will. Marchbank could replace him unless he narrows that gap

Dow did some really solid, hard nosed work, but disposal still a concern, along with selling teammates into trouble. Needs to release to a wider option

But, I would leave both in the 23 for next week

Harry being injured throws up interesting options. Young most likely to come in as that 2nd KPF, chopout ruck.

Or, could Lemmey debut against a bottom of the table side?

Then there is O'Keeffe, who I think is a brilliant competitor

If it was me, O'Keeffe in for Harry

And no, Boyd won't be omitted

Out Harry, In O'Keeffe ( most likely it will be Young)

Young is an ordinary kick for goal, wouldn't mind seeing what HOK or Lemmey have got as ruck/fwds.
Boyd won't be omitted but he may be suspended for the tackle on Bird Jones that resulted in him being concussed (it was Boyd wasn't it?)

 

[blue89]

Pitto in for H and TDK to spend most of the game forward (not my preference but suspect that’s what the MC will do).

Binns in for Boyd (Doc to spend more time back) to give a debut during an “easy” game

Dow to get a full games because we are playing the Eagles

 

[HarryFlashman]

Best opposition possible for us to work out our new structure with H going down.
Mots & JSOS aren’t both kicking 4 again (against anyone else) they were both awesome but that output is a one off.

 

[Jimmae]

Genuinely time to rest some players, the final five games will be gruelling, give them some time to recooperate.

OUT: McGovern (rest), Boyd (susp/rest), Saad (rest), Acres (rest), McKay (inj)
IN: Marchbank, Cowan, Hollands, Binns

Drop Docherty into defence, ideally sub Cripps out in the last quarter. O'Brien or Acres as sub.

 

[NavySteel]

I just want a win. Form over the month has been stellar, but we have to do it every week from here.

No complacency.

Can the team handle the expectation?

 

[marcmurphy3]

Genuinely time to rest some players, the final five games will be gruelling, give them some time to recooperate.

OUT: McGovern (rest), Boyd (susp/rest), Saad (rest), Acres (rest), McKay (inj)
IN: Marchbank, Cowan, Hollands, Binns

Drop Docherty into defence, ideally sub Cripps out in the last quarter. O'Brien or Acres as sub.

If thats our attitude we deserve to miss the 8. We are 10th. Have no right to rest anyone.

 

[FRUMPY]

If thats our attitude we deserve to miss the 8. We are 10th. Have no right to rest anyone.

Harry?

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[CaptainCharisma]

In - Pittonet/Young, Cowan, Marchbank*
Out - McKay (inj), Boyd (susp), Saad*

Motlop holds out Owies
If Pitto isn't available then Young can come in to play forward/second ruck and JSOS can play permanent key forward in Harry's absence
Boyd will get a week for the tackle
George and Dow can swap for the sub vest/starting spot if required.

If Saad is sore, then give him the week off. We will have a big run home now with a genuine sniff of sneaking into the finals.
We also have Binns available for a debut if someone else pulls up sore.

 

[Arr0w]

Genuinely time to rest some players, the final five games will be gruelling, give them some time to recooperate.

OUT: McGovern (rest), Boyd (susp/rest), Saad (rest), Acres (rest), McKay (inj)
IN: Marchbank, Cowan, Hollands, Binns

Drop Docherty into defence, ideally sub Cripps out in the last quarter. O'Brien or Acres as sub.

LOB? Not a hope

Really don't understand resting players when continuity is crucial to build confidence

Gov, Acres, Saad will play next week.

McKay out is a given, only way Boyd misses is suspension, but will be back when available

Doc won't be in the back 7 anytime soon

 

[El Topo]

Genuinely time to rest some players, the final five games will be gruelling, give them some time to recooperate.

OUT: McGovern (rest), Boyd (susp/rest), Saad (rest), Acres (rest), McKay (inj)
IN: Marchbank, Cowan, Hollands, Binns

Drop Docherty into defence, ideally sub Cripps out in the last quarter. O'Brien or Acres as sub.

If thats our attitude we deserve to miss the 8. We are 10th. Have no right to rest anyone.

Think we should be aiming for a middle ground between these two poles - no need to flog McGov and Saad into the ground with Marchbank and Cowan waiting in the wings

 

[Rustica]

As much as the Eagles suck they are still to be respected as an outfit.

Dont be complacent, play like we did for the last 4 weeks and the result should take care of it self

Out: McKay (inj.) and Boyd (susp.)
Ins: Pittonet/Young and Cowan

 

[Cowboyblues]

Out - Harry and maybe Boyd susp.

In: Lemmey and Binns. Give the lads a taste to drive there development.

Anyone else remotely sore has replacements ready in Cowan, Marchy , carrol etc.

 

[Own The Future]

Hesitant to omit players after a win like that, especially with WC as our next opponent but more a watch and see

Kemp needs to narrow the extremities from sublime to ordinary. Needs to continue to focus on defensive acts first and foremost, spoil rather than thinking he can intercept at will. Marchbank could replace him unless he narrows that gap

Dow did some really solid, hard nosed work, but disposal still a concern, along with selling teammates into trouble. Needs to release to a wider option

But, I would leave both in the 23 for next week

Harry being injured throws up interesting options. Young most likely to come in as that 2nd KPF, chopout ruck.

Or, could Lemmey debut against a bottom of the table side?

Then there is O'Keeffe, who I think is a brilliant competitor

If it was me, O'Keeffe in for Harry

And no, Boyd won't be omitted

Out Harry, In O'Keeffe ( most likely it will be Young)

I love Kemp but agree he needs to be reigned in a bit.
His attack on the ball and specifically his closing speed in a contest are massive ticks, but he loses his feet too often and takes the dangerous option a little too often. I think he deserves some leeway as this is a relatively new role for him, and the point of difference he has as a KPD means we need to put up with the occasional error.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

LOB? Not a hope

Really don't understand resting players when continuity is crucial to build confidence

Gov, Acres, Saad will play next week.

McKay out is a given, only way Boyd misses is suspension, but will be back when available

Doc won't be in the back 7 anytime soon

I more LOB , Fisher or Ed - thanks for everything bye bye

 

[Michael Jezz]

If Saad or Cerra have minor injuries rest them

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

No changes for the sake of it. This form is a month old. We have to continue to perfect it and imprint it on the brain. Playing with personnel while on this finals tightrope is too big a risk.

Pittonet or O'Keeffe in for Harry.

Cowan for Boyd, although the lack of comparative leg speed hurts a little. Hopefully Boyd only gets a week but I'm thinking 2.

 

[StaggerLee]

Hesitant to omit players after a win like that, especially with WC as our next opponent but more a watch and see

Kemp needs to narrow the extremities from sublime to ordinary. Needs to continue to focus on defensive acts first and foremost, spoil rather than thinking he can intercept at will. Marchbank could replace him unless he narrows that gap

Dow did some really solid, hard nosed work, but disposal still a concern, along with selling teammates into trouble. Needs to release to a wider option

But, I would leave both in the 23 for next week

Harry being injured throws up interesting options. Young most likely to come in as that 2nd KPF, chopout ruck.

Or, could Lemmey debut against a bottom of the table side?

Then there is O'Keeffe, who I think is a brilliant competitor

If it was me, O'Keeffe in for Harry

And no, Boyd won't be omitted

Out Harry, In O'Keeffe ( most likely it will be Young)

I think we could bring in Young and play Kemp forward for a week.

 

[David Sylvian]

You would be filthy if you were ‘rested’ as a player if you had the opportunity to play and contribute to wins crucial to your season. Momentum is critical, you DO NOT flirt with form. PA case in point.