Rumour 2023 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 37!, 1 (busted) BIG FISH ALERT last October 9th) (9 confirmed! 17 Busted!)

[Danger in Texas]

Hawthorn looking at him apparently.

Makes sense, given they lost Brockman

 

[Scorpus]

I love how you only go back to 2020. Anyway, my source is someone who actually works in the fitness and conditioning department at the club. McAdam has always had an issue with the professionalism required to be a consistent best 22 player and it’s why instead of potentially being a guy that on talent could have played 200 games and drafted a lot earlier in age than he was, will instead unlikely play 100.

The club has put a lot of resources into trying to improve what he does off field, but it just hasn’t worked out in the end, no hard feelings and we have enough forward line depth to cover him now.

Hang on, didn't you say before that I was trolling for suggesting McAdam wasn't a best 22 player and was more a fringe player?

Now you're saying he had questionable professionalism and that's why he wasn't consistent best 22

Which... is what I said? The club didn't consistently rate him as a best 22 player, he was in and out of the side, on the fringes. Professionalism, not training well, not rocking up to training could be the reason for that in addition to form and other factors.

I take issue with claiming he had injuries as the only reason he wasn't always in the side because that clearly isn't true and you've even just confirmed as much based on what you've heard

 

[Crow till I die]

Hawthorn looking at him apparently.

He actually would have been a good fit at Port - they need more firepower up there. But, well, no assets to do that...

 

[GreyCrow]

Hawthorn looking at him apparently.

Don't tell Gunston

 

[Scorpus]

That's your take ....however clearly there were things happening behind the scenes between Burgess & McAdam

So player attitude has to be taken into account at the selection table :
1. Suspended R2 ....brought straight back in R3 !
2. Gets injured R3 ...misses 6 games
3. 4 games back in the SANFL after injury
4. R13 - SANFL Bye, Crows unchanged after big win
5. R14 - Crows Bye

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This, along with the fact McAdam played the last 6 games, as we strived to make the Finals .....dismisses all your points around not being best 22

It was clearly a fitness / attitude issue .....confirmed by McAdam's own comments & request for a trade .....not by any actions / beliefs of the selection committee

So according to you a player who is not selected in the side due to fitness, attitude, behind the scenes issues with Burgess (and form) isn't a "fringe player" like I suggested but is actually best 22 - even though they aren't actually selected in the (best) 22 players

 

[GROTTO]

The only problem with a F2 is we won’t see return from that for 3-4 years

Unless we use it as part of steak knives in a future trade.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Should we have any interest in Billings? Has shown A grade mid qualities at times in his career, just never consistent enough

NO ! .....Billings is a downhill skier, who goes missing in big games ...and important moments within games

 

[WaynesWorld19]

So according to you a player who is not selected in the side due to fitness, attitude, behind the scenes issues with Burgess (and form) isn't a "fringe player" like I suggested but is actually best 22 - even though they aren't actually selected in the (best) 22 players

Clearly McAdam wasn't a fringe player .....a fringe player would be Cook, who's form see's him consistently on emergency lists, rather than a first choice player, when fit

By your definition, Murray missing games in 2023 and not playing most of 2024 ....makes him a fringe player

 

[Scorpus]

Clearly McAdam wasn't a fringe player .....a fringe player would be Cook, who's form see's him consistently on emergency lists, rather than a first choice player, when fit

By your definition, Murray missing games in 2023 and not playing most of 2024 ....makes him a fringe player

No, that's not what makes someone a fringe player. Murray went from 8 SANFL games in 2021, to 6 in 2022, to 0 in 2023. That's a clear progression from a fringe player to a best 22 player. Missing games through injury doesn't make someone a fringe player.

McAdam played 25% of his games over the last 3 years in the SANFL, and 5 out of 12 this year in the SANFL. That's the "in and out of the side" behaviour that makes someone a fringe player.

Cook played 1 game. He's not even fringe level, more a depth player.

Other fringe players would be guys like McHenry, who was often the sub, Schoenberg who we mixed between AFL and SANFL and Sholl who played 16 games (5 SANFL) but most observers wouldn't say is best 22

 

[BRL121]

The only problem with a F2 is we won’t see return from that for 3-4 years

We won't draft anyone with it.
Its only possible use is in helping match for Welsh, very marginal.

 

[Crow till I die]

Did we create an extra F1 out of nothing?

 

[croweater 41]

Did we create an extra F1 out of nothing?

Scholl going somewhere for F1 that we didn't know about? Berg for GWS F1?

 

[Crowbling]

When we are all watching the draft after a miserable day at work we are going to be grateful we missed out on all of our targets during trade week.

 

[GameofSloanes]

Unless we use it as part of steak knives in a future trade.

Will be used for Welsh

 

[relapse]

If there's no deal done for BZT, given our shortage of key backs surely we'd consider him an option in the PSD?

 

[jo172]

If there's no deal done for BZT given our shortage of key backs surely we'd consider him an option in the PSD?

Would we want him? He's pretty mediocre.

 

[GameofSloanes]

Actually hope Port take Esava in the ND .... pick 24 is more than a fair price to pay, they'd be using on him anyway, and Cats get nothing.

 

[GameofSloanes]

If there's no deal done for BZT, given our shortage of key backs surely we'd consider him an option in the PSD?

Would be hilarious, but is he actually any good?

 

[GameofSloanes]

NO ! .....Billings is a downhill skier, who goes missing in big games ...and important moments within games

And has a terrible history with injury

 

[arrowman]

Can we death ride port too? I know they don't really have any picks to give us, but it'll still be fun

Who's got Port's first rounder next year? We can visit their board and help with the death riding.

 

[hippyhippy]

Actually hope Port take Esava in the ND .... pick 24 is more than a fair price to pay, they'd be using on him anyway, and Cats get nothing.

One of the rare circumstances is be supporting port ...

Port get a dud ... Geelong gets no draft pick

Pure win in my eyes...

 

[George Kramer]

Yes and no.

I'd have liked Petty/Sparrow/Player involved.

But I am still not sold on buying Petty at his highest price. Yes I'd have him in the 22 in a heartbeat but the cost may have been a little to steep.

F2 goes onto Mich/Walsh next year so it'll get eaten up and we won't even care about the actual number it is.

That’s what I’m referring to, we’ve lost McAdam for friggin points in a father son pick, that’s a waste of a good player

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If there's no deal done for BZT, given our shortage of key backs surely we'd consider him an option in the PSD?

There's a reason BZT's nickname is "goals galore"

 

[soli goat]

If there's no deal done for BZT, given our shortage of key backs surely we'd consider him an option in the PSD?

I would rather Esava.

 

[Fuddnuddler]

What would Ginnivan cost?