Rumour 2023 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 37!, 1 (busted) BIG FISH ALERT last October 9th) (9 confirmed! 17 Busted!)

[George Kramer]

If West Coast aren’t taking Reid, you’d do the north deal wouldn’t you minus giving 23 back

 

[MarcusP2]

I wouldn't deal with North unless they're giving up all of their freebies.

 

[1990crow]

I wouldn't deal with North unless they're giving up all of their freebies.

If I'm WC I'm only doing the deal for 2, 3 and giving North 23.

I.e. Pick 1 and 23 for Picks 2 and 3.

 

[Concussion test]

I wouldn't deal with North unless they're giving up all of their freebies.

North's offer is less than inspiring, they must think they're dealing with the AFL

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

If I'm WC I'm only doing the deal for 2, 3 and giving North 23.

I.e. Pick 1 and 23 for Picks 2 and 3.

Why? If WC are fixed on Curtin rather than Reid, then 2 plus a couple of later firsts is a decent deal.

it all comes down to whether WC intend on taking Reid or not.

 

[ftmch]

Imagine turning up and you have Chris Scott , Jezza Cameron and the Hawk next to you , Selwood up the field a bit , Isaac Smith , Dangerfield etc

We couldn’t provide that strength of direction of a mature team with a single minded focus on a premiership that they’d been working toward for nearly 10 yrs

Right time for Stengle after what he’d been thru , right place

Yeah, no doubt - I said earlier that they have a great culture so definitely would have done it better than others. My point is that he was a very different player to coach, mold and influence after the reality check that we gave him.

Most teams would have derived benefit from the 'last chance saloon' approach he would have been taking to his footy by that point. He was always going to be become a better and more focused player - it was just a question of how much.

 

[Betts are off]

Still think WC F1 could end up being the asset that could shake loose.

Give WC their bounty without losing Harley Reid. That's the deal that would surely make WC stand up and take notice.

10, 14 and a F1 for WC F1.

Big risk, big reward

 

[1990crow]

Why? If WC are fixed on Curtin rather than Reid, then 2 plus a couple of later firsts is a decent deal.

it all comes down to whether WC intend on taking Reid or not.

Why? Because North should be desperate.
Next best talents are a WA player and a Tasmanian. Both big flight risks once they hit their peak.

 

[1990crow]

Still think WC F1 could end up being the asset that could shake loose.

Give WC their bounty without losing Harley Reid. That's the deal that would surely make WC stand up and take notice.

10, 14 and a F1 for WC F1.

Big risk, big reward

Terrible trade. Far too risky. Plus delays squad development.

 

[Crow till I die]

Still think WC F1 could end up being the asset that could shake loose.

Give WC their bounty without losing Harley Reid. That's the deal that would surely make WC stand up and take notice.

10, 14 and a F1 for WC F1.

Big risk, big reward

would want 37 to come to us in that deal..be nice to hit this draft with 20 and 37 (or wherever they land) and then next year hope like mad WCE are still in development mode and finish bottom 2

 

[Betts are off]

Terrible trade. Far too risky. Plus delays squad development.

I'd do it for a top 3 pick in what looks like a bumper year for Mids, and one that we have access to Welsh, who looks like a 1st rounder. No questions asked.

And I can't name 3 sides that look worse than WC going into 2024. (Actually I can't name 1, but I was being kind).

 

[Betts are off]

would want 37 to come to us in that deal..be nice to hit this draft with 20 and 37 (or wherever they land) and then next year hope like mad WCE are still in development mode and finish bottom 2

I left out the steak knives, but yeah a sweetener would be nice

 

[Crow till I die]

I'd do it for a top 3 pick in what looks like a bumper year for Mids, and one that we have access to Welsh, who looks like a 1st rounder. No questions asked.

And I can't name 3 sides that look worse than WC going into 2024. (Actually I can't name 1, but I was being kind).

You would want to hope that a midfield of reid (he will be absolutely ready to go rd 1), ginbey, chesser, hewett and kelly don't all play well next year then..that is a quality young midfield they are building

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Folks, there’s no way WCE are trading their F1 unless it’s for both 2 and 3 from North.

no way their recruitment team trades it for a bunch of later first round picks, no matter how many of their supporters come on here floating the idea.

 

[Betts are off]

You would want to hope that a midfield of reid (he will be absolutely ready to go rd 1), ginbey, chesser, hewett and kelly don't all play well next year then..that is a quality young midfield they are building

There is always a risk trading into the 1st. Its a lottery, but in the above scenario, a midfield's with 1 rookie and 2 x 2nd year players is not striking too much fear into me. They are potentially good players, in some cases potentially great players, but good midfield's aren't completely rebuilt in 1 offseason

 

[Betts are off]

Folks, there’s no way WCE are trading their F1 unless it’s for both 2 and 3 from North.

no way their recruitment team trades it for a bunch of later first round picks, no matter how many of their supporters come on here floating the idea.

Same exact thing could be said for every trade scenario involving Harley Reid (or pick 1).

 

[Mostyn]

Why? Because North should be desperate.
Next best talents are a WA player and a Tasmanian. Both big flight risks once they hit their peak.

Next best talent is a Queenslander, but putting that aside ...

Duursma is the next best talent. Not sure Curtin is necessarily top 5.

 

[Danger in Texas]

FWIW I think this might be Theo replacing Tom Browne? We’re gonna have to find a new mouthpiece lol

 

[MRB37]

Why? If WC are fixed on Curtin rather than Reid, then 2 plus a couple of later firsts is a decent deal.

it all comes down to whether WC intend on taking Reid or not.

I think part of it from WC's POV is a perception one. They trade out of #1 and it is absolutely going to be painted as a culture issue "They didn't believe they could keep Reid happy" type BS when the truth could be they rate Curtin better or the offer of picks was too good to pass up.

 

[Firewalker]

FWIW I think this might be Theo replacing Tom Browne? We’re gonna have to find a new mouthpiece lol

Yeah it’s Theo moving to 7News Melbourne with Tom Browne’s departure, will be interesting to see though who’s going to be top dog with Mitch Cleary already working there.

Interesting if the person taking over from Theo as main Crows reporter has similar sources to him… even if it was just mostly Tex leading a Matt Crouch heavy agenda.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Yeah it’s Theo moving to 7News Melbourne with Tom Browne’s departure, will be interesting to see though who’s going to be top dog with Mitch Cleary already working there.

Interesting if the person taking over from Theo as main Crows reporter has similar sources to him… even if it was just mostly Tex leading a Matt Crouch heavy agenda.

Think Cleary has already got the Chief Football Reporter role, Theo will be 2IC

I’m not SA-based so I forget, is there already a guy at 7 working beside Theo?

 

[Mostyn]

Still think WC F1 could end up being the asset that could shake loose.

Give WC their bounty without losing Harley Reid. That's the deal that would surely make WC stand up and take notice.

10, 14 and a F1 for WC F1.

Big risk, big reward

Well, if I'm honest, I absolutely hate that.

 

[Mostyn]

I'd do it for a top 3 pick in what looks like a bumper year for Mids, and one that we have access to Welsh, who looks like a 1st rounder. No questions asked.

And I can't name 3 sides that look worse than WC going into 2024. (Actually I can't name 1, but I was being kind).

Yeah, except maybe they improve and maybe we get a shitty injury run. Maybe they end up pick 4 and maybe we end up pick 8, and we've give 10 and 14 to move four spots.

Who knows - Welsh perhaps ends up around pick 12 to 15 and the whole thing was pointless?

 

[Mostyn]

Well if Curtin isn't he should be, offers way more versatility being capable back, forward and on ball at his size than a medium forward that MAY eventually transition into the midfield.

Sure - but has he turned up top five in any of the draft rankings recently?

I think both Twomey and Rookie Me had him later.

 

[Firewalker]

Think Cleary has already got the Chief Football Reporter role, Theo will be 2IC

I’m not SA-based so I forget, is there already a guy at 7 working beside Theo?

Yeah former SANFL footballer Andrew Hayes does the Power stuff, they’ll probably just go in-house for a replacement, probably a guy named Tom Wilson or ex-soccer player Robbie Cornthwaite, whoever it is do expect slightly less leaks/puff pieces to come out now given Theo had a decade to build up trust.