List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management discussion

[Sproj]

I can understand agonising on this decision. He is basically weighing up likely less money but more chance at success, though not guaranteed to be best 22. On the other hand, he is being offered more years at more money and a guaranteed start in his home state but limited immediate opportunities for success.

It really is a tough decision.

 

[Daniel_Rich]

Think it was more the reverse - couldn't get a spot in a decent team, so might as well at least play some games in a bad team and get paid more for it in another. Now he's getting games in a good team and can see a premiership potentially coming.

He's been in the side since the bye so you'd think if that was the issue he'd have signed on by now. Which makes me think he was still undecided the whole time and eventually started thinking "well if we win the flag then I'll leave", because that way he gets to eat his cake and have it too (success and money/home). Then we lost and now he's not sure whether to try again or leave.

Regardless, it feels like he'll be at the Eagles eventually, so it's just whether we get him for another 2 years or not.

 

[Fitzroy bears]

Re the Oliver talk ... who's place in our current line up would he take (ie who is currently doing the role he has been filling at the Demons)

Not sure who fills the armature tattoo artist in our team?

 

[dlanod]

He's been in the side since the bye so you'd think if that was the issue he'd have signed on by now. Which makes me think he was still undecided the whole time and eventually started thinking "well if we win the flag then I'll leave", because that way he gets to eat his cake and have it too (success and money/home). Then we lost and now he's not sure whether to try again or leave.

Regardless, it feels like he'll be at the Eagles eventually, so it's just whether we get him for another 2 years or not.

It's all speculation, but that's only half a season - at what point do you start feeling the spot is yours instead of dropping in and out? If we went out early (remember plenty of punters were tipping us to go out in straight sets again until we didn't) he wouldn't feel like he could be missing out on a premiership. The near miss after finally playing plenty of games in a row seems to have changed his opinion...

Anyway, as I said - all speculation. I just can't see how he would have thought we were such a monty for the premiership that he would've been locked in on leaving throughout the year "after we won it".

 

[Gadzorks]

Seriously? Who is advising this guy

Remember riscetelli (??? Can't spell, to lazy to look it up) - had signed with suns then cried at the bnf because he didn't realize how hard it would actually be.

Dev is young, on paper going wins every time so decision seems easy.

But then reality slaps you on the face.

I believe he is genuinely torn. And which every way he goes, he will always have regrets.

 

[Nuggo]

Money or hopefully the Cup. What is the chance Westcoast will be challenging in five years time. Tough decision. All the best Dev in whatever decision you make.

 

[Happy_Neale]

Remember riscetelli (??? Can't spell, to lazy to look it up) - had signed with suns then cried at the bnf because he didn't realize how hard it would actually be.

Dev is young, on paper going wins every time so decision seems easy.

But then reality slaps you on the face.

I believe he is genuinely torn. And which every way he goes, he will always have regrets.

Nothing wrong with being torn over a decision but probably shouldn't be telling people you're leaving if you're not sure yet!

 

[Nuggo]

Nothing wrong with being torn over a decision but probably shouldn't be telling people you're leaving if you're not sure yet!

Wouldn't be the first person to change their mind. Happens a lot

 

[martinson]

I'm thinking something was said at the exit interview that has given him cause to weight it all up more closely.

 

[Quigley]

Sorry to intrude, do you see Dev being best 22 when Ashcroft is back and the brother enters the fray?

I would suggest he would be would fall into the 22 next year but not certain especially if there is improvement in a couple of others competing for that spot.

Personally though I struggle to see him in the 22 the following year when Ashcroft Jnr comes in.

 

[KissKiss]

I would suggest he would be would fall into the 22 next year but not certain especially if there is improvement in a couple of others competing for that spot.

Personally though I struggle to see him in the 22 the following year when Ashcroft Jnr comes in.

But then you start weighing up how long has Zorko/Neale go left or does McCarthy finish up and he keeps playing half forward. Then will anyone else look to move on? I can see him right on the edge of the 18-24 spot on the list for a few years now but that could tilt easily either way in or out of the team on a lot of factors

 

[Squizz89]

Lol.

 

[Tom14]

Lol.

Broken clock etc etc but Gossage one of the worst for trade stuff around.

 

[JasRulz63]

Lol.

 

[Tom14]

 

[Squizz89]

Good for all parties I think. Dev can reevaluate where he sits in the pecking order in 2 years and can take off if it’s not working out. If he becomes a permanent member of the team, then he might even win a flag in that time.

 

[briztoon]

Thank * for that.

I don’t have to change my avatar.

Edit: oh, yay Dev is staying.

 

[briztoon]

Worth a listen to for trade nuffies.

 

[SpecialBruce]

Good for all parties I think. Dev can reevaluate where he sits in the pecking order in 2 years and can take off if it’s not working out. If he becomes a permanent member of the team, then he might even win a flag in that time.

He can also request a trade next year too. Contracts mean nothing nowadays.

 

[T Rick]

Would love to know what was said at Dev's exit meeting that shifted the dial so dramatically. Under the circumstances, a 2 year deal makes sense for all parties.

 

[Gadzorks]

He can also request a trade next year too. Contracts mean nothing nowadays.

I'm not fully convinced he's staying till I hear it from him.

We've done this before - Schache signed a contract then the club traded him. He got where he wanted, and we got better value at the trade table.

 

[braddsey]

Thank * for that.

I don’t have to change my avatar.

Surely you can update to something a little more risqué? Increase your bigfooty followers.

 

[bato]

I think the media were a little bored with this Dev thing. He was always going to stay.

 

[missfinland]

That comment from Sam Edmund is 100% accurate. Will be interesting what the outcome is either today or tomorrow.

Agree Mighty Lions.

I think I said a couple of pages back that my own conversations with him really made me think had the lions won, he was gone, the fact they got beat he really feels he wants to be a part of going one better next year hence the lack of decision.

It really is a case of being a part of something special now or take the money knowing you may not play in success for the next 5-8 years and by then he may find himself strangely in the same position as he is now in being just on the edge of playing senior footy.

 

[JasRulz63]

It's crazy how much times have changed at the club compared to just 8-10 years ago. We now have players (e.g. Lohmann and Dev) choosing to stay and fight for a position in the best 22 as opposed to leaving to head home for more opportunity and (potentially) more money and security.