List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread II - Goldy&Bucket➡️✅/'24 EoFR & #44➡️Stephens&#25✅/#21&#25➡️Fisher&#17✅/'24 EoFR➡️#18✅

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Order, aka Future Picks

Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

 

[MagicDaw]

I'd much rather we use the PP24 x 2 as a way to get another top 10 pick this year, rather than just burn them.

I agree with you though, if we even dilute any of the PP's on Fisher or Stephens I will be absolutely livid.

And 14 and 19 this year for another.
Get kerch sanders watson and O'Sullivan

 

[Roostorm]

Good bless little Cooney…..someone let him loose in the radio staion…..best he head back out to the western suburbs and concentrate on something he’s good at…eating burger rings….

 

[My Left Foote]

Ralph yesterday, breathlessly: Have you HEARD. Essendon are TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS short on their contract offer for McKay! North might have to ACCEPT an end of first rounder. Nathan Buckley says Essendon are NOT HERE to make Norths life easier! SCANDAL and ROT

Ralph today, circumspectly: There is a clause which means what I wrote yesterday is incorrect and there is NO NEED TO BE ALARMED

What a donut

BEFORE

AFTER

 

[R00StaR]

If thats WC pick 20 instead of ours then i can live with it.
Pick 1 and 20 for 2 and 3 its much closer to the mark. No chance we trade 2 and 3 for 1 on its own.

 

[Ashley B]

What dumb person would give 2 and 3 for 1 , next minute……

 

[ohmygewd]

As many others have said, we should make a run at No.1 for Reid but not at the cost of pick #2.
If the brains trust are smart and they are able to get GC's pick #5 and the Scum come to there senses in give McKay 800k a year to trigger band 1/= and that indeed is pick #3 then we do the deal that WCE receive #3 & #5 with assurance that we don't grab Curtin @ #2 and it's happy days for both clubs.
We move up the without losing our highest pick.
WCE lose the 1 first pick but pick up the next pick after ours so they have the next right of reply rather than Hawthorn and they get back into the top 5 of the draft
What more do we or WCE want?

The key is McKay, once that domino falls then we see the true hand we play with.

As it stands, and get #3 Band 1 compo, l wouldn't mind:
#2 - Curtin
#3 - Watson
#14 - Hardemann
#19 - M.Edwards

We get a KPD in Curtin.
We get the most skilled, cleverest footballer in a position we sorely lack in Watson.
We get a beautiful rebounding defender in Hardemann which frees up Sheez.
We get a super talented big man in Edwards.

As lot of WA kids that could be used in 2 or 3 years time to trade with WCE for Reid when the enventual homesickness crap comes calling again.

 

[Shinboner roo]

Id much rather go after GC pick 4(5) if they would bite at picks 14,19,19ff,20ff for 4(5) forget Reid and take picks 2,3,5 to the draft, use pick 40 on dylan Stephens

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Dylan Stephens

Age

23

Ht

184cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

and our future 3rd on Fisher.

 

[Sphynx]

One thing that people are failing to factor in with the Reid v McKercher debate is that the latter will leave not long into his career with us.

You’re kidding yourselves if you truly think he would have the option to stay with us instead of going to Tassie. The AFL will make sure that he gets there as a marquee player and I’d guarantee we’d get jack for him in terms of compensation.

If we pick Reid, as a fan I’d be super invested in his development and plenty of young kids know his name already. If we pick McKercher, I’d be far less attentive to his development because there would be that nagging thought in the back of my mind: “what’s the point in caring? He will leave anyway”

So, we receive the Ablett and Scully compensation deals.

Melbourne received Pick 3 and Pick 14 for Scully from the AFL due to the size of his contract, his age and his standing.

They used those picks to secure mini draft access to Jesse Hogan and Pick 20.

The AFL isn't going to gut other clubs of top young talent like McKercher for no compensation.

 

[krakouers]

Goldy going to * for the opportunity to develop his coaching career

Silly Question, any chance of getting Pendlebury for the same reason?

 

[krakouers]

Wasn't it just a rumour on other boards?

 

[speedy]

Where is the desperation for pick 1? Just media fluff? I haven't heard anything about us trying to get it.

We can only hope its just the media. The club shouldn't even contemplate it.
They need to be concentrating on turning those future 1st's into extra pick this year, not chasing the no.1 pick.

 

[GoRoos2023]

So 4 1st rounders becomes 2.
This is simply idiotic.
No player can be worth such a cost.

Especially when we would of had pick 1 and 2 had we not won vs the Gold Coast!

 

[HBFlanker]

Has to be a three-way deal in the works where we end up with Pick 1 from WCE and Pick 5 from GCS.

I am expecting us to deal picks 2 and 3 to West coast if we get Pick 1. Thats a classic Rawlings trade.

Id do it if we got back Pick 1 and Pick 5, but kept 15.

Enter the draft with 1,5,15.

 

[Deleted member 98541]

We need Croft to nominate open draft to get WB out of the way of pick 4.

Understandably, you pay overs when you have to queque jump bids.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Hearts to hearts]

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Wasn't it just a rumour on other boards?

The last line of that is a ripper. Once you’ve got past the breathless headline and the rest of the words, you hit actual facts.

 

[giantroo]

 

[big_e]

One thing that people are failing to factor in with the Reid v McKercher debate is that the latter will leave not long into his career with us.

You’re kidding yourselves if you truly think he would have the option to stay with us instead of going to Tassie. The AFL will make sure that he gets there as a marquee player and I’d guarantee we’d get jack for him in terms of compensation.

If we pick Reid, as a fan I’d be super invested in his development and plenty of young kids know his name already. If we pick McKercher, I’d be far less attentive to his development because there would be that nagging thought in the back of my mind: “what’s the point in caring? He will leave anyway”

Tasmania's licence is still conditional, so there's no guarantee it will happen. (I hope it does, FWIW, but it's not locked in yet.)

But even if everything went to plan, we get four years out of him, which is not nothing. And the concessions given to clubs whose players were taken by new clubs have been quite healthy.

And even then, we have those four years to convince him to stay.

 

[Makeshift Park]

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Wasn't it just a rumour on other boards?

"X are weighing up whether to make a play for Y" has to be the lowest conceivable threshold for a story ever.

 

[Passmore]

Tasmania's licence is still conditional, so there's no guarantee it will happen. (I hope it does, FWIW, but it's not locked in yet.)

But even if everything went to plan, we get four years out of him, which is not nothing. And the concessions given to clubs whose players were taken by new clubs have been quite healthy.

And even then, we have those four years to convince him to stay.

If we're challenging in 4 years, which you'd hope so, is he going to then up and leave to put in 4-5 more years work at a new franchise to get to the same position?

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[trooroo4life]

I can see a possibility of West Coast taking McKercher at #1

Whatever happens in regards to trades is yet to play out and we’ll see what happens

What I can absolutely guarantee though, whether it’s west coast or us… Harley Reid is the only player going at pick 1. No one else is being picked at 1, let it go.

 

[speedy]

Pick 1 can GAGF!
I'll will be ill if we chase pick 1.

 

[giantroo]

 

[King Hansen]

Wow Tom Morris with some breaking news and opinion there..

 

[Epictetus]

The whole industry that has developed around trade period is so ****en dumb that I can't deal with it...