List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

[King Corey]

Edit: will update if ppl happy for this to sticky

Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.

• Mac Andrew
• Hunter Clark
• Zac Fisher
• Sam Flanders
• Mitch Georgiades
• Liam Henry
• Dougal Howard
• Lewis Melican
• Jack Silvagni
• Dylan Stephens
• Adam Tomlinson

 

[roos_fanatic08]

As per the article other clubs would try to trade for him on the cheap, not with picks coming back. Plus GWS want to keep him.

The one on their list to salary dump that they’d want to lose is Haynes.

I’d take both of them, we have so much cap space we could heavily front load both contracts.

Haynes + Pick 17 to GWS for pick 6. We take his full contract.

Whitfield for a future 2nd.

 

[Masked Avenger]

That's not fleeced, that's a mildly lopsided deal in Richmond's favour as it stands. CCJ's shown some pretty clear positive traits

Agree. Fair bit of hindsight going on with CCJ.

Kicked 4 goals in his second game and was stuck behind some handy tall forwards at Richmond

His major problem is we have a history of not playing players to their strengths.

I didn't see his 9 goal game in the twos, but I bet he was played close to goal where he utilised his 200cm and 100 kegs. He can catch it.

Yet we have him wandering around the wings.

Play him deep and force opposition teams to committ a gorilla to him. That has a huge knock on effect.

He's a big persist for me.

 

[lockheed]

Agree. Fair bit of hindsight going on with CCJ.

Kicked 4 goals in his second game and was stuck behind some handy tall forwards at Richmond

His major problem is we have a history of not playing players to their strengths.

I didn't see his 9 goal game in the twos, but I bet he was played close to goal where he utilised his 200cm and 100 kegs. He can catch it.

Yet we have him wandering around the wings.

Play him deep and force opposition teams to committ a gorilla to him. That has a huge knock on effect.

He's a big persist for me.

Incredibly, yes.

 

[Themanbun]

As of 2020 our best three young blokes were all mids. We turf out our best key forward and then went and spent three years of serious first and second round draft capital on more mids and another ruckman. Hell even one of our main goal kickers now was brought in with the intention of being a flipping midfielder (another one!) before sense finally prevailed and he was sent back to his historically best position.

Meanwhile, sides like Adelaide have been building all over the ground, turning delisted discards (Keays) and rookies (Laird) and traded in flankers (Dawson) into gun mids. And predictably they have completely overtaken us.

The logic back then was "oh we can address the other parts through free agency." Pretty flipping bold strategy if you ask me because it entirely depends on people wanting to come play for us. And because we stink, we're not very desirable.

We now have an entire backline with a grand total of one lock in it and a whole bunch of question marks, one key forward who was already on our list at the start of this rebuild, and one medium forward who was already on our list at the start of this rebuild.

Meanwhile we have a surplus of blokes in the middle who we'll either delist, play as poor flankers, or trade for peanuts.

Don't get me wrong, I love some of these blokes. But we simply don't need them all and any return we get won't be worth what we paid for them.

Watch, we'll go overpay a bunch of flankers and KPPs to get them to the club to fill list holes and **** our salary cap for when our 83 midfielders rightfully start asking for more $.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Liam Henry backed up last weeks 31 touches with another 33 today

 

[r_boy]

As of 2020 our best three young blokes were all mids. We turf out our best key forward and then went and spent three years of serious first and second round draft capital on more mids and another ruckman. Hell even one of our main goal kickers now was brought in with the intention of being a *ing midfielder (another one!) before sense finally prevailed and he was sent back to his historically best position.

Meanwhile, sides like Adelaide have been building all over the ground, turning delisted discards (Keays) and rookies (Laird) and traded in flankers (Dawson) into gun mids. And predictably they have completely overtaken us.

The logic back then was "oh we can address the other parts through free agency." Pretty *ing bold strategy if you ask me because it entirely depends on people wanting to come play for us. And because we stink, we're not very desirable.

We now have an entire backline with a grand total of one lock in it and a whole bunch of question marks, one key forward who was already on our list at the start of this rebuild, and one medium forward who was already on our list at the start of this rebuild.

Meanwhile we have a surplus of blokes in the middle who we'll either delist, play as poor flankers, or trade for peanuts.

Don't get me wrong, I love some of these blokes. But we simply don't need them all and any return we get won't be worth what we paid for them.

Watch, we'll go overpay a bunch of flankers and KPPs to get them to the club to fill list holes and **** our salary cap for when our 83 midfielders rightfully start asking for more $.

Agree.

Collingwood and Adelaide make great use of rookie draft and discards and MSD.

We just blow it

 

[RossHenshaw]

Agree.

Collingwood and Adelaide make great use of rookie draft and discards and MSD.

We just blow it

Don’t worry about rookie draft ..
We can’t even nail the normal draft FFS !

 

[Themanbun]

If in this year's draft we pick up another mid, or a flanker we hope to turn into a mid, I might actually cry.

 

[rippersnipper]

Another issue here is that way too many of the best kids in the draft have gone to top teams through father-son and academy selections while we've had to make do with others. The system shouldn't ever let that happen.

On a separate note, no more mids. And I'd be happy to see us trade picks and decent players to get in more talent at either end of the field. Don't care about drafting a tall forward who'll be good in 5 years when we need to start getting better now. The list management team really need to start building a team that can properly compete in all areas instead of just the middle

 

[hoffseason gains]

Need to address lack of speed / run first and foremost.

 

[pupstar]

Don’t worry about rookie draft ..
We can’t even nail the normal draft FFS !

Our last5-6 drafts have been really solid.

 

[lockheed]

Need to address lack of speed / run first and foremost.

At the beginning of the matchplay commentary, someone said that, for the last few years, Adelaide's focus has been to recruit fast skillful players. I wonder why we've never tried that.

 

[XU1-ROO]

Would trade out Tom Powell if that pick gets Darcy Wilson

 

[The Nostradamus]

Would trade out Tom Powell if that pick gets Darcy Wilson

Nope

I’d trade ports first for Lachie ash tho

 

[Chadwiko]

Need small/mid defenders.

 

[XU1-ROO]

Nope

I’d trade ports first for Lachie ash tho

GWS might want more than that pick for Ash

 

[The Nostradamus]

GWS might want more than that pick for Ash

He’s out of contract they aren’t getting more

 

[Devington]

Need small/mid defenders.

We need literally everything other than mids. Even that looks shakey at times lol.

 

[hoffseason gains]

At the beginning of the matchplay commentary, someone said that, for the last few years, Adelaide's focus has been to recruit fast skillful players. I wonder why we've never tried that.

Yeah I get that’s there’s other traits than that but the game is so turnover based that u need those types in abundance.

 

[Kanga1996]

We need to know what TT is going to do, if he stays we should/could look at trading Powell.


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[The Nostradamus]

We need to know what TT is going to do, if he stays we should/could look at trading Powell.


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He’s contracted for next year. Both of them are

Those are decisions for next year

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I’ll continue to say it until my face turns blue, but two picks inside the top 30 every year is not going to get us out of this monumental ****ing hole we are in.

I don’t know how we do it but we need 3/4 picks inside the top 30. It’s the only way we are going to get enough class on the list to actually improve.

Free agency isn’t an option because guns won’t want to come here and there is no point us picking up fringe or delisted players when we never seem to improve them.

Unless they are KP’s every player we draft next year has to have above average pace and has to have endurance. Athletically we are just not up to it.

 

[The Nostradamus]

First round Priority pick

 

[shinboner magic]

Trading our first round pick for future first (Powell)
Picking so many mids as Themanbun has stated is gross negligence
We should be giving practically everyone one go to see who’s up to it.
Using rookie spots on known quantities limited (turner /Howe)is just a waste
Lack of talls at both ends and no runners

 

[Roosurgence]

Need to be looking at young defenders that are stuck in teams with a strong back six who would shift for games. I’m not talking shitmen, but young players with potential.

Buy low and sell high.

Adelaide have shown you don’t need top end draft picks to form a competitive back 6.