List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

[King Corey]

Edit: will update if ppl happy for this to sticky

Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.

• Mac Andrew
• Hunter Clark
• Zac Fisher
• Sam Flanders
• Mitch Georgiades
• Liam Henry
• Dougal Howard
• Lewis Melican
• Jack Silvagni
• Dylan Stephens
• Adam Tomlinson

 

[TheKanga]

Frustrated and disappointed i would say not pissed off.

Still I don't see us winning again this year.
So that's a 21 game losing streak.
If we continue to stagnate and struggle next season players will start to think
why am I wasting my prime years losing every week.

 

[Roosurgence]

You dont rate Louge

I rate Logue. But let’s be honest we were actually a more attractive destination at the end of last year with Clarkson coming on board the what we are at this very minute.

Clarkson was/is a big draw for players, but the goings on this year will have made players less convinced than if he was in and settled.

 

[Passmore]

Still I don't see us winning again this year.
So that's a 21 game losing streak.
If we continue to stagnate and struggle next season players will start to think
why am I wasting my prime years losing every week.

Hopefully some will channel their energy into leading us out of this rather than running away.

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[Heaps of fun]

I rate Logue. But let’s be honest we were actually a more attractive destination at the end of last year with Clarkson coming on board the what we are at this very minute.

Clarkson was/is a big draw for players, but the goings on this year will have made players less convinced than if he was in and settled.

We won't have much of a choice but to bring in more players close to/in retirement, fringe players, state league players and kids. We'll need to show a lot of organic growth in 2024 to be a chance of attracting anyone decent.

 

[Ball Dont Lie]

If we are in such a terrible state then why did Harry and George sign for the extra 2 years they must see the posatives around the club.

What are the positives? What are we selling?

 

[Roosurgence]

What are the positives? What are we selling?

Good bum taps from Luke McDonald?

 

[spurs]

What are the positives? What are we selling?

Gun young players who will thrive under Clarko

 

[Ball Dont Lie]

Gun young players who will thrive under Clarko

Thrive under clarko? It’s not 2013, to a young player or possible trade target Clarko is a page in a History book. As for the gun young players every team has gun young players

 

[zoomba23]

What are the positives? What are we selling?

Harry's first game was a win and he re-signed the next week. George's first game was nearly a win and he re-signed in the next couple of weeks. I unironically think that those results had an impact. It's also pretty well documented that the club is a nice chummy place to be

 

[Ball Dont Lie]

Harry's first game was a win and he re-signed the next week. George's first game was nearly a win and he re-signed in the next couple of weeks. I unironically think that those results had an impact. It's also pretty well documented that the club is a nice chummy place to be

Sorry are we saying retaining our number 2 and 3 draft picks is a win? I suppose it is given we fluffed the pick 1 last year. I absolutely agree winning drives people to commit. It would be good to know which professional sporting clubs aren’t chummy places to be. I would have thought that all are.

 

[zoomba23]

Sorry are we saying retaining our number 2 and 3 draft picks is a win? I suppose it is given we fluffed the pick 1 last year. I absolutely agree winning drives people to commit. It would be good to know which professional sporting clubs aren’t chummy places to be. I would have thought that all are.

Retaining them from here on in will absolutely be a win for us. The depths to which we have sunk are miles below anyone else, West Coast included.

All I meant by the chummy thing is that that usually makes it pretty easy to settle into a club and go 'yeah I'd like to stay here,' especially if there's no go home factor. Just putting it forward as a factor in their re-signings, not arguing that other clubs don't have the same sort of environment

 

[pupstar]

losing like this is toxic, it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest players start looking elsewhere if this continues.
It’s partners, friends etc talking to you about the most talked about subject in Victoria, asking why you continue to be s**t.
It’d be toxic as * for everyone involved.

I rate Logue. But let’s be honest we were actually a more attractive destination at the end of last year with Clarkson coming on board the what we are at this very minute.

Clarkson was/is a big draw for players, but the goings on this year will have made players less convinced than if he was in and settled.

Hopyou are wrong of course see what trade period brings i suppose. Might be a pleasant suprise or 2.

 

[pupstar]

What are the positives? What are we selling?

You would have to ask them the posatives and why they signed on for the extra 2 years.

 

[Horizons_00]

Still I don't see us winning again this year.
So that's a 21 game losing streak.
If we continue to stagnate and struggle next season players will start to think
why am I wasting my prime years losing every week.

Yep. Why bust my ass, when most of the team doesn't train hard or can barely get out of third gear during game

 

[pupstar]

Hopefully some will channel their energy into leading us out of this rather than running away.

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Yes very goodl lots of players from all clubs do this and a big credit to them.

 

[Passmore]

Yes very goodl lots of players from all clubs do this and a big credit to them.

Imagine the satisfaction that LDU (as an example) might get from leading the club out of it’s current mess.

 

[chubbspeterson]

We can turn this around but it starts with the playing group imo. The Blues turned it around by the playing group having tough conversations with each other and demanding more from each other. Once they got that first win by bringing pressure, they got their confidence and taste for it and got on a roll.
We don't know how to win and we've not had a game where we put a team away comfortably. We need that moment for the group.
We've played 42 players this year, that's not ideal but we needed to have a look at everybody so they can make calls on them.
Last years draft is looking good. I found Rawlings' comment about they drafting being a group decision interesting, I know everybody wants him sacked and maybe that's the right call, but perhaps the list management and recruiting teams were not all aligned on who they would pick previous years.
Like Finnigan wanted player A, Luffy wanted supercoach champ and Rawlings wanted player C.

 

[bennymate]

LDU is not going any were can assure you of that.

He must be on close to a mill then

 

[spurs]

Thrive under clarko? It’s not 2013, to a young player or possible trade target Clarko is a page in a History book. As for the gun young players every team has gun young players

So sack Clarko and shut up shop? Come
On…

 

[Poopybum22]

Can we even use free agency as an avenue this off season?

Wouldn’t it impact our McKay compo?
Not sure how we get 2 ready KPDs.

 

[Tiberius]

If Reid wants to come back to Melbourne he won’t be choosing us…..we don’t have the “additional salary cap” of other clubs. Not even close.
There‘s a lot of reasons why we rarely land the go-home kids and most of them start with M and rhymes with money.

Mahoney? That guy has a lot to answer for!!!

 

[Shinboner1]

Can we even use free agency as an avenue this off season?

Wouldn’t it impact our McKay compo?
Not sure how we get 2 ready KPDs.

Yes any free agents we bring in reduces the amount of compensation we could get from mckay leaving.

 

[zoomba23]

Mahoney? That guy has a lot to answer for!!!

Jack Mahony laughing evilly whilst pulling the strings of sabotage deep in the bowels of Arden St is the mental image I never realised I needed

 

[Petrie4PM]

Please throw big money at both of Bailey Williams and Oscar Allen

12

Oscar Allen

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

who have been WC best all year. Unlikely, but i rate these guys so much.

 

[TheKanga]

My predictions and players we should target

Retiring

Ziebell
Cunnington
Goldy
Shiels
Hall

Delistings

Turner
Howe
Dawson
Free
Spicer
Mahony

Leaving

McKay

Potential trade fodder

Stephenson
Thomas
Powell

Players we could target

Billy Frampton

17

Billy Frampton

Age

27

Ht

201cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.1

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

0.7

3star

MG

99.0

2star

D

8.5

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

99.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

107.0

2star

26(Collingwood)
Zac Williams 28 (Carlton)
Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

22 (Bulldogs)
J Riccardi 23 (GWS)
N Hind 28 (Essendon)
Mark Keane 23 (Adelaide)
Hunter Clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

24 (St Kilda)
Joel Amartey 23 (Sydney)

To name some

Pick 2 incoming
(Swap with WCE for Pick 1 Harley Reid?)
Rylee Sanders ?
Pick from Port