Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

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Let's have some on this.

Brockman to WCE for Pick 35
Frost to NM for 53
Kossie to Tiges for 44

McKay in as Free Agent

Henry in for our Pick 29 and 53 (Puts the points to Pick 20)

Our Future 1, 35,44 to GC for 4, 56 and 60

Use our Pick 3 - Duursma
Use Pick 4 - Caddy
And take bid on McCabe with Picks 48,56,60

Round 1 - 2024 Team

Hardwick McKay Weddle
Jiath Sicily Scrimshaw
Henry Worpel Amon
Bruest Caddy Moore
Duursma Lewis Ramsden
Reeves Day Newcombe
S.Mitchell Ward McKenzie C.McDonald (Sub - Butler)

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Not sure where laughing stock for Caddy at 4 which will be 5 after the Walter bid comes from. Twomey has him at 8 and the ESPN dude has him at 6 in their rankings. All time howler and lucky to be taken top 10 isn't what the AFL and ESPN media seem to believe.
 
We’d be a laughing stock if we took Caddy at pick 4.

Caddy aside - I was chuffed with the hypothetical because it was one of the most realistic assessment of value for our players I’ve seen in some time.
 
Let's have some on this.

Brockman to WCE for Pick 35
Frost to NM for 53
Kossie to Tiges for 44

McKay in as Free Agent

Henry in for our Pick 29 and 53 (Puts the points to Pick 20)

Our Future 1, 35,44 to GC for 4, 56 and 60

Use our Pick 3 - Duursma
Use Pick 4 - Caddy
And take bid on McCabe with Picks 48,56,60

Round 1 - 2024 Team

Hardwick McKay Weddle
Jiath Sicily Scrimshaw
Henry Worpel Amon
Bruest Caddy Moore
Duursma Lewis Ramsden
Reeves Day Newcombe
S.Mitchell Ward McKenzie C.McDonald (Sub - Butler)

This is the best and most realistic Hypothetical I have seen by a long way. My only caveat being Caddy at 4. On positional need a huge tick but there are some serious question marks on his character which concerns me. If we got 4 perhaps one of the other key talls?
 
This is the best and most realistic Hypothetical I have seen by a long way. My only caveat being Caddy at 4. On positional need a huge tick but there are some serious question marks on his character which concerns me. If we got 4 perhaps one of the other key talls?

This. Post isn’t getting enough credit - good assessment of our players’ worth, late pick swaps to complete the trades. Was well constructed. 4.5 stars, would read again.
 
Let's have some on this.

Brockman to WCE for Pick 35
Frost to NM for 53
Kossie to Tiges for 44

McKay in as Free Agent

Henry in for our Pick 29 and 53 (Puts the points to Pick 20)

Our Future 1, 35,44 to GC for 4, 56 and 60

Use our Pick 3 - Duursma
Use Pick 4 - Caddy
And take bid on McCabe with Picks 48,56,60

Round 1 - 2024 Team

Hardwick McKay Weddle
Jiath Sicily Scrimshaw
Henry Worpel Amon
Bruest Caddy Moore
Duursma Lewis Ramsden
Reeves Day Newcombe
S.Mitchell Ward McKenzie C.McDonald (Sub - Butler)
Love the moves but think if we held onto our future 1st and found another way to get pick 8-15 to draft Caddy (if he’s our target) that would be ideal. I’d probably find a way to squeeze Nash into the best 22 aswell…
 

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We'd be a laughing stock if we took Weddle at 10. We were a laughing stock for taking him at 18.

We have Weddle.
No we weren’t.
 
Pick 4 won't come cheap. Browse every team's board here and every supporter base thinks they're getting it. Will have to pay big overs for it.
Perhaps you ahould go the other way.
Trade 3 for 4,2024r2 with Gold Coast.
Or GWS could trade you 6 for Hawthorn's 2024r1, then you can just use that instead.
 
No we weren’t.
There was quite a bit of confusion, on this board and the media, as to why we were picking up another general defender. Laughing stock might be a bit strong, but there was certianly discourse around the price we paid and his fit in the team. Going back to draft night there was a lot of positivity around him, and now we see it was for good reason, but there was some negativity around the pick. All I meant by the comment was that if MM, as guided by Mitch and the list management team, see Caddy as worth Pick 4 lets give them a season or two to see if they're right.
 
There was quite a bit of confusion, on this board and the media, as to why we were picking up another general defender. Laughing stock might be a bit strong, but there was certianly discourse around the price we paid and his fit in the team. Going back to draft night there was a lot of positivity around him, and now we see it was for good reason, but there was some negativity around the pick. All I meant by the comment was that if MM, as guided by Mitch and the list management team, see Caddy as worth Pick 4 lets give them a season or two to see if they're right.
Right now he’s likely not getting picked up inside 10.
Pick 4 is a reach.
 
Right now he’s likely not getting picked up inside 10.
Pick 4 is a reach.
Oh don't worry, I agree it would be a massive coup for him to get picked up at 4 (5 after Norf get the compo). I don't have him in that top bracket, and I'd be pretty shocled if anyone before the Cats picked him up. But if it does happen, I'll back the club and their decision making.
 
We arent making it to a Prelim next year.
Pretty sure these days they don't have that qualifying final where you can skip straight to the grand final, BOTH finalists have to go through a prelim.

So we kind of can't skip it, if that's what you were getting at.
 
For all the mature players hawks have brought in, were any big news prior to trade week?

Most weren’t

Think cooper meek amon?

Frawley is the only one I can think of maybe omeara
Burgoyne and Lake were pretty important.
 
Will be interesting to see how Jeka goes tomorrow after a great first final.
In a team that’s short on KP talent do we cut him or give him 1 last chance?
We cut him.

Then he realises no other club wants him.

Then we rookie him with our last pick.
 
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