List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part I

[George]

 

[botts]

Future tangent post:



#endfatherson #uncompromisethedraft

Would still have to nominate tassy over us

 

[PoppedCorn]

Gresh is a must keep. At the start of the year I was 50/50 if it got us a top 5 compensation pick but if we’re in the 8 and all in on a Steele-Crouch-Ross midfield it makes no sense to move our best players on.

Top 5 compo?
Ill drive him myself

 

[GTrains Love Child]

What’s Ned McHenry

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Ned Mchenry

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24

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179cm

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81kg

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9.7

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4.0

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5.7

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2.5

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2.3

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0.0

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9.7

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4.0

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5.7

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2.5

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2.3

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0.0

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10.0

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3.6

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6.4

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2.6

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2.0

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0.0

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’s contract position?
Bloke can’t seem to squeeze into the crom lineup but would be a lovely addition to the small forward/midfield rotation (Gresh replacement).
Loved him around his draft time and might just be that little bit behind Rankine and Rachele.
Massive tank on him too which Ross and co would love you’d suspect…

 

[Mowman]

You don't get better by diluting the list. Unless he's got heaps of social problems I can't see how a pick around 20 at best is a better option. We still lack match winners and he's one of the few who has some of that.

Guess it depends on who we spend the extra money
FA + the pick

 

[_Maximus_12]

Couldn’t see Rooeys kids wanting to move to Tassie given they’re likely to private school boys at one of Melbournes APS schools. We’ll be fine

 

[mighty_sainters]

Couldn’t see Rooeys kids wanting to move to Tassie given they’re likely to private school boys at one of Melbournes APS schools. We’ll be fine

Do they even leave the US? Might stay there for good.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

I’d be suprised if gresh left for hawks

It’ll be a big Melb club if he goes


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[SufferingS8INT]

Hes not a free agent so there'd be no compo. We'd have to trade for him.

Should get him at a reasonable price considering his form this year. He will be a gun!! Just low on confidence this year

 

[botts]

Do they even leave the US? Might stay there for good.

One school shooting and they are out of there

 

[moirae42]

If Gresh goes it's for the payday. And honestly, I wouldn't hold it against him.
If we somehow got a top ten compo, I'd be stoked. Top twenty and I'd be content.

I think we need to get a contract in front of Hunter Clark

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Hunter Clark

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25

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186cm

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83kg

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17.5

4star

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9.5

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8.0

5star

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3.6

4star

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2.9

4star

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1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

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6.4

4star

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3.1

3star

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2.9

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1.9

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13.2

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6.6

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6.6

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2.2

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2.0

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CL

0.0

1star

sooner rather than later.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

What’s our max-out point with Gresh on current form? $650k - is that light on? I’ve lost touch with the common man.

 

[George]

Don't mind Gresh going don't think he's very good

 

[gringo2011]

Balta under RTB and Enright could be anything - would be a great get!

He's very much another Dougal IMO. Looks great at times but absolutely shit at others. He's still young though. They'd want heaps for him and unlikely to let him go easily anyway.

 

[gringo2011]

Guess it depends on who we spend the extra money
FA + the pick

You lose your compo if you pick up a FA. It would be Gresham for a swap at that point. The only player that looks potentially gettable and linked to us is the injury prone McKay. Pretty much giving away Gresham to pay a guy to sit on the injury list incase we play a 37 year old Hawkins.

Parish isn't coming realistically. He's the only one I'd want to chase as a potential swap.

 

[snails13]

the saints would still have to move someone to the long term injury sport. to gain a mid season draft pick. and since we are high up on the ladder all the good guys will have been gone by then.

How many teams will have picks?

 

[joydivision22]

I’d be matching any contract offers for gresh unless it was north of $800-820k (band 1 - 1st rdp). Playing strong footy and still a good age, probably will still be around when the younger guys are at peak age so we’d get this tilt at a flag and another one once crouch Ross wood etc drop off.

Unfortunately Dmac and Jones may not go around again and that’s $1m right there sitting in the rehab room so cash not much of an issue.

I hate the idea of TDK. Unless he came for nothing draft capitol wise and on a moderate short term contract. But speaking to Carlton friend who reckons they’d be wanting a mid first rounder lol

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

If Gresh goes it's for the payday. And honestly, I wouldn't hold it against him.
If we somehow got a top ten compo, I'd be stoked. Top twenty and I'd be content.

I think we need to get a contract in front of Hunter Clark

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Hunter Clark

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

sooner rather than later.

A top 10 compo pick can only happen if;

Gresh’s contract results in band 1 compo

And

We don’t make the finals ()

*the best compo pick we can get is a pick straight after our 1st round pick (eg finish 6th get pick 13 & pick 14 is compo)


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[bird_man]

What’s our max-out point with Gresh on current form? $650k - is that light on? I’ve lost touch with the common man.

As someone who is still very much in touch with the common man, I think around 650k is about right from our point of view

It would take an offer of around 750k for us to get band one compensation

 

[sammm]

Would still have to nominate tassy over us

More likely Webster's kids to go

 

[gringo2011]

As someone who is still very much in touch with the common man, I think around 650k is about right from our point of view

It would take an offer of around 750k for us to get band one compensation

The only way you get a pick higher than end of first round is when the AFL want to provide a thinly veiled priority pick. If we make finals they won't do that, realistically a pick around pick 20 to 22 would be likely even if he tips into band 1 compo. There will e a few FS and priority picks taken out before the end of FR.

If we threaten to match then you have to hope that you didn't just cost yourself $200k a year that you didn't need to pay when they tell you to piss off or do a Crouch and end up losing him for a shit pick.

 

[The_Steadier]

I’d be suprised if gresh left for hawks

It would certainly raise a few eyebrows wouldn't it?

 

[bird_man]

The only way you get a pick higher than end of first round is when the AFL want to provide a thinly veiled priority pick. If we make finals they won't do that, realistically a pick around pick 20 to 22 would be likely even if he tips into band 1 compo. There will e a few FS and priority picks taken out before the end of FR.

If we threaten to match then you have to hope that you didn't just cost yourself $200k a year that you didn't need to pay when they tell you to piss off or do a Crouch and end up losing him for a s**t pick.

10 years ago maybe but now I just think it comes down to the size and length of the contract.

I think the only way he'd get a band one compensation though is from a bottom side that has cap space and want to avoid having to trade for him

I can't see him wanting to go to a rebuilding club though so it's probably unlikely he gets band one. If there is not a lot of difference between the wage than you'd just hope he stays.

 

[gringo2011]

10 years ago maybe but now I just think it comes down to the size and length of the contract.

I think the only way he'd get a band one compensation though is from a bottom side that has cap space and want to avoid having to trade for him

I can't see him wanting to go to a rebuilding club though so it's probably unlikely he gets band one. If there is not a lot of difference between the wage than you'd just hope he stays.

Free agency seems to have tightened up now for sure. The compo is getting less all the time. I bet if McKay goes and North finish last again, they'd find a way to give them a pick mid way through the first round or something.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

It would certainly raise a few eyebrows wouldn't it?

 

[DougalHoward]

It would certainly raise a few eyebrows wouldn't it?

I wonder what salon he gets them done at