List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[pebblesofsand]

Allison has photos

Of his contract.

 

[stavro#4]

I think that is the opposite to how I see him. I think of him as a good long kick and not very high production. I think of him as another DMac. More outside than inside not fast or slow but is a decent tackler and looks like he works hard. Maybe a Seb Ross replacement as a receiver inside mid.

what exactly are you disagreeing with mate?

you literally just compared him to our Vanilla players

 

[Sun Ra]

Heard he fell asleep in some meetings. Maybe it was attitude

Maybe it was the altitude ?

 

[Diehard Saint]

That’s not right

Exactly!










( I didn't even know who he was )

 

[Saints43]

who is canning him? All I’ve seen is he’s not a good captain and would be worth something at the trade table

Don't the players vote on who should be captain, and have voted for JS a number of years in a row?
Maybe they don't see what you see.

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[Saints43]

What if we trade Steele and use that pick on bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

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[StCicatriz]

If we could off load Seb Ross would be good= 50% DE in the final, been wanting too, for awhile.

r u kidding... he may go at 50% DE but he atleast got the thing

 

[StCicatriz]

Edmund kinda shuts down Coffield to the lions.


Dougal Howard absolutely on the market. The Sydney link I mentioned earlier crops up here

im worried sydney will have **** all in the way of currency

 

[Dr Spaceman]

We've wanted Goldstein for years, maybe 1 or 2 left in him? And we've done well out of mature Ruckman.

Surely we’re not going to go against our one ruckman strategy by playing Goldstein & Marshall.

Surely we’re not trading in Goldstein and trading out Marshall.

So why would we be linked to him?


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[gringo2011]

what exactly are you disagreeing with mate?

you literally just compared him to our Vanilla players

I don't think he's a very good accumulator but has more hurt than some. Didn't say he isn't a bit vanilla. He's a meh addition. Might still have some scope to improve but otherwise he's depth. He was drafted as a more outside type from memory and that's fits with what Lyon thinks we need. Still don't have an inside bulk extractor which would be nice.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Can't see us de-listing Adam's AND trading Howard without having lined up an experienced player to help fill the gap.

Come on down

Adam Tomlinson of the Melbourne Demons AFL Games Played Stats

Adam Tomlinson of the Melbourne Demons AFL games played and stats.

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[stavro#4]

im worried sydney will have * all in the way of currency

Howard and some change for 11?

 

[Diehard Saint]

Surely we’re not going to go against our one ruckman strategy by playing Goldstein & Marshall.

Surely we’re not trading in Goldstein and trading out Marshall.

So why would we be linked to him?


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And surely Goldstein is not coming in to upgrade the ruck quality at Sandy?
Although maybe we get him in as ruck coach for Heath

 

[stavro#4]

Surely we’re not going to go against our one ruckman strategy by playing Goldstein & Marshall.

Surely we’re not trading in Goldstein and trading out Marshall.

So why would we be linked to him?


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Would allow us to swap them between Ruck and Forward line.

we would actually gain from that and lose nothing in the ruck whilst giving us 2 very different type of ruckmen during the game.

we 100% need a more seasoned option next to King.

 

[St Kilda Death]

This was Jordan Last year. Lost his place this year and had injuries. will be 24 next year

improves immediately over say Clark or Ross.
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His 20 disposals is not an improvement over Ross 20 disposals,
Which he went of injured twice early I think he’s usually good for 25 or so.

Not saying I wouldn’t take Jordan especially if it doesn’t cost much but just your call is off the mark there.

 

[ScrappyDo]

And surely Goldstein is not coming in to upgrade the ruck quality at Sandy?
Although maybe we get him in as ruck coach for Heath

He's actually perfet for 2 years of service at no trade cost.
We have VEss, Hammer, Moose and Keeler who can feed in progressively over that space of time without the need for urgency.

 

[StCicatriz]

Howard and some change for 11?

i dont think he's improved his worth since we traded for him. best you'd hope for is swapping picks. so we go up a couple, but cant see sydney being that desperate. sounds like grundy is a done deal which makes getting their 2nd rounders hard, unless theyre splitting their pick.

 

[Diehard Saint]

He's actually perfet for 2 years of service at no trade cost.
We have VEss, Hammer, Moose and Keeler who can feed in progressively over that space of time without the need for urgency.

My point is...will he want to play at Sandy? I doubt RTB is changing his strategy to have 2 rucks.

 

[crasha301]

im worried sydney will have * all in the way of currency

A future first?


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[Saints TV]

Delistings are out but I think that’s the tip of the iceberg.




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[stavro#4]

My point is...will he want to play at Sandy? I doubt RTB is changing his strategy to have 2 rucks.

Ross's strategy over his career has been to use 2 rucks.

 

[stavro#4]

i dont think he's improved his worth since we traded for him. best you'd hope for is swapping picks. so we go up a couple, but cant see sydney being that desperate. sounds like grundy is a done deal which makes getting their 2nd rounders hard, unless theyre splitting their pick.

i didn't think Mckay is an 800k p/y player either.

Need sometimes trumps value and you pay a little more.

there is next to no KPD on the market once Mckay goes at Howards level

 

[The Punter]

All the pub about Goldstein over the last few years is he wants to play seniors. Someone who isn't us is going to offer him that.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Ross's strategy over his career has been to use 2 rucks.

Unfortunately I'm not sure Roma plays well as second ruck/ ruck - forward.
Playing with Paddy (much as we all loved him) didn't do Roma's development any favours.

But who am I to argue with RTB about bringing in a long in the tooth ruckman?

 

[crawfords cat]

Ross Lygon mentioned Coffield as being near the 22 as recent as R20, so we seem to rate him (FWIW).