List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[Tommy Wigs]

Sinn is injury prone..Nas played every game this year & hasn’t missed a beat!

Sarcasm regarding the ongoing Sinn love in here

 

[St Neil]

And for what it’s worth.

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Clark says he wants to go to North.

They still very much like him

What do you think is his trade currency?

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Hunter Clark closes in on a new saints deal HSun

This sounds like our Gresham tactic. “We love him, he’s staying on”. But we’re really thinking “hey, hope this pumps up their price”.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Eight Saints will undergo surgery in the next week, as preparations for the next pre-season already get underway.

Jack Steele (ankle), Max King (shoulder), Brad Crouch (knee), Jack Hayes (knee), Dougal Howard (finger), James Van Es (ankle), Mason Wood (shoulder) and Dan Butler (ankle) will all undergo procedures to ready them for a big summer.

you're welcome

Hayes had his surgery prior to the last game so I wouldn't take the wording of that sentence as gospel.

The article below was from 7 August 2023 and talks about Van Es surgery the previous week.

Either the new article is poorly worded or there has been some issue with the first operation

Injury Update: Ross in line for Round 22 return

The latest on Seb Ross, Tom Highmore, Dougal Howard and more ahead of Round 22.

www.saints.com.au

 

[stavro#4]

This sounds like our Gresham tactic. “We love him, he’s staying on”. But we’re really thinking “hey, hope this pumps up their price”.

We want Gresh to stay.

But not at the price he thinks he is worth.

On our terms. We will keep him.

 

[gringo2011]

I wouldn't mind Khamis.

 

[stavro#4]

I wouldn't mind Khamis.

Meh


Just go to the draft

 

[gringo2011]

OK what does that even mean?
Contract turnaround?

What is TRADAE whisper anyway? Spell check and AI and these turkeys can't even manage the basics.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Resigning billings was seriously stupid and alot of saw that one coming...

Hunter Clark is billings MK2.

He's not that bad yet.

 

[gringo2011]

Meh


Just go to the draft

Depends what he'd cost. Doubt he's worth more than a third rounder or something. No worse than Dow or Jordon.

 

[saintkildaman]

Meh


Just go to the draft

Agreed. Between King, Hammer, Hayes, Sharman and Keeler I think we are set for KPFs.

 

[St Neil]

So I was just talking to a fella whose son knows Jack Ginnivan. Apparently he toured the club about a month ago and is now committed to coming across!

Well done. Nice thing to discuss. It’s the sort of thing we like to hear about.

 

[CaptainRisky]

The article below was from 7 August 2023 and talks about Van Es surgery the previous week.

Either the new article is poorly worded or there has been some issue with the first operation

Injury Update: Ross in line for Round 22 return

The latest on Seb Ross, Tom Highmore, Dougal Howard and more ahead of Round 22.

www.saints.com.au

Try this then, from a day ago

Injury Update: The latest from the post-season injury front

Several Saints are scheduled in for routine post-season surgery in preparation for the 2024 pre-season.

www.saints.com.au

 

[CaptainRisky]

Agreed. Between King, Hammer, Hayes, Sharman and Keeler I think we are set for KPFs.

Hayes has proven nothing , one good game, a few average and was dropped , not saying he wont make it but is no lock in at this point in time

 

[magd2992]

What is TRADAE whisper anyway? Spell check and AI and these turkeys can't even manage the basics.

Only works on SUNDAE

 

[gringo2011]

Agreed. Between King, Hammer, Hayes, Sharman and Keeler I think we are set for KPFs.

He started as a defender and has some wheels. He's only 191 so not really a KPF even though he did play like one when he got into their senior side. He's more tall small forward in the VFL crumbs most of his goals and not particularly strong overhead. I think I'd prefer him to Snags to be honest. He has some dominant VFL games.

 

[St Neil]

Resigning billings was seriously stupid and alot of saw that one coming...

Hunter Clark

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Hunter Clark

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

is billings MK2.

Where do we play Clark?

He can’t spread. He can’t gut run defensively.

Beautiful kick and good hands. Good decision maker. But his mobility is a major deficiency.

I’m darned if I know where we put him.

 

[Nutsngum]

Try this then, from a day ago

Injury Update: The latest from the post-season injury front

Several Saints are scheduled in for routine post-season surgery in preparation for the 2024 pre-season.

www.saints.com.au

So either the new article is re-stating his surgery time incorrectly or he is gone in for a second set of surgery whatever that is.

 

[Remboy]

One for the trade talk list. Cheers

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Ginnivan for Phillipou, you heard it here first.

 

[Remboy]

Where do we play Clark?

He can’t spread. He can’t gut run defensively.

Beautiful kick and good hands. Good decision maker. But his mobility is a major deficiency.

I’m darned if I know where we put him.

I still think he’s best in the centre.

 

[hayes]

Where do we play Clark?

He can’t spread. He can’t gut run defensively.

Beautiful kick and good hands. Good decision maker. But his mobility is a major deficiency.

I’m darned if I know where we put him.

I think like all the players that we had grand plans to let go it comes down to are we better off with Clark or pick 30-40? It sounds like a great idea to trade players for picks until you realize we’re not going to get anything decent for them if they go.

 

[Captain Paddy]

Gonna be depressing watching Clark run out in the middle again next year. Never seen a slower person in my life.

 

[St Neil]

I still he’s best in the centre.

Then he needs quicker players around him. And he needs to be the player who gets first hands on the ball and feeds it out.

Crouch and Steele have been those players. We lack leg speed if Clark is also part of that mix.

 

[mighty_sainters]

Am I wrong in saying Clark is only an average kick? I see him mess up the hard pass more than I see him nailing it.

 

[St Neil]

I think like all the players that we had grand plans to let go it comes down to are we better off with Clark or pick 30-40? It sounds like a great idea to trade players for picks until you realize we’re not going to get anything decent for them if they go.

Catch 22. Perfectly understandable.

But I still don’t know where we play him. His lack of pace inhibits various options.