List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part III

[George]

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

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Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

Courtesy of Lore

 

[EddieMurphy]

Go Byrnesey
Not consistent, but when he gets those bullet passes right, is a sight to behold

Some percentages of Hillys kicks are great as well, just very visible when he fluffs them.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

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The Prince?

Andrew?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

All of those deals are not reflective on the current landscape though.

Flynn and Jordan just got their clubs second round picks.

Doedee just got end of first and he has an acl injury

An ACL injury is not part of the equation.
Flynn and Jordan free agents?

Salary went down during covid but came back.
Its unlikely that Gresham will be paid in the top 5% of AFL salaries, which is the trigger for round one compensation.

Contrary to belief, the AFL don't make it up based on who they reckon is a good player.

 

[pebblesofsand]

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Long article complete with every draft Dodoro has participated in. Liked this justification about selecting Scott Gumbleton

Long-suffering Essendon fans bemoan two Dodoro draft choices. In the 2006 draft, the Bombers selected key position prospect Scott Gumbleton with pick two, leaving Geelong to take Joel Selwood at seven.

The following year, Essendon used pick six to take David Myers, while Hawthorn selected Cyril Rioli at 11.

Every club would have taken Selwood in hindsight and in a 2020 podcast, Dodoro described Gumbleton (45 games in seven injury-blighted seasons) as “pick two every day of the week”.

“He had everything that Nick Riewoldt had at the same age, let’s not make any mistake about that,” Dodoro said. “That’s why he went pick two and that’s why he probably broke a lot of our hearts.”

 

[FootyMaster11]

here we go again, just said again on Trade Radio that if offers came in for Jack Steele

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Jack Steele

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

(or anyone else, but specifically mentioned Jack Steele

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Jack Steele

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

) and they were good enough, We would probably take it

 

[saintmike65]

Is Ash Johnson in the Pies plans going forward?

Will Kelly any good?

They like Charlie Dean but his injuries might mean he's on the outer?

Gotta be someone on the fringes that could take an opportunity with us in exchange for Billings.

I’m an Ash Johnson fan but I think he signed with Collingwood recently

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

An ACL injury is not part of the equation.
Flynn and Jordan free agents?

Salary went down during covid but came back.
Its unlikely that Gresham will be paid in the top 5% of AFL salaries, which is the trigger for round one compensation.

Contrary to belief, the AFL don't make it up based on who they reckon is a good player.

There's more to the equation than simply the $$$.

Age impacts it too.

Gresh is 3 months older than McKay who has been mentioned as a young free agent. Both have the same birth year.

 

[SaintTwitch]

Was it just me, or did it look like SOS was trying not to laugh when saying that Freo wanted a top pick for Henry?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

There's more to the equation than simply the $$$.

Age impacts it too.

Gresh is 3 months older than McKay who has been mentioned as a young free agent. Both have the same birth year.

OK lets see , good luck with your tier one.
Personally i'm not letting myself in for that little emotional fall.

I'm crossing my fingers we're inside tier 2. ( Amon was only last year ).

 

[SteeleSaints]

Sheil very unlikely given what SOS said. I wonder what else we have in play?

 

[saintmike65]

Callum Twomey
@CalTwomey
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1m

Jade Gresham has officially informed St Kilda he will be heading to Essendon as a free agent. Now just waiting to see the deal and on what the compensation is looking like - Bombers get their other two free agents today in McKay and Goldstein.
@AFLcomau

@traderadio

Given Adelaide got pick 20 for losing Doedee…surely we’ll get 13

 

[L_W_P]

No-one wanted Billings in the last trade period. Why the heck did we give him 500k a year???

Because the AFLPA negotiated a 'salary floor' that says all clubs have to spend at least 95% of their cap each year, regardless of how good/bad they are.

Billings has 'potential' so we paid him based on that.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

OK lets see , good luck with your tier one.
Personally i'm not letting myself in for that little emotional fall.

I'm crossing my fingers we're inside tier 2. ( Amon was only last year ).

It's not my tier one.

I was adding a clarification to your post.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Given Adelaide got pick 20 for losing Doedee…surely we’ll get 13

What's the logic, your perception of them as players?

 

[stfan]

Thats a fair point.

On another issue, if we only add Dow to the mids and rely on what we have and the kids developing, I do see us making the eight next year.

Is that "do see", or "don't see" ?

 

[Jesuswasacarpenter]

Don't agree, many clubs would be after Dow, Marchbank, TDK etc.

It's just that SOS can pull it off.

I'd be thanking my lucky stars we have him.

TDK would have been a great get.
And Marchbanks last 6 whatever weeks had been really good

 

[Bertha]

Just sitting in the school carpark waiting to grab the kids and wondered when did Volvo trade their shit drivers to Tesla? I don't remember hearing anything about it, was there a presser or something?

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Just sitting in the school carpark waiting to grab the kids and wondered when did Volvo trade their s**t drivers to Tesla? I don't remember hearing anything about it, was there a presser or something?

Finance bros and stay at home mums, what did you expect?

 

[saintmike65]

If Double ACL Doedee can, anything is possible!

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I had a read of the Freo trade thread last night and gees they are angry that Henry has asked for a trade. They know they are losing a player who is just starting to blossom and consequently want our first round selection for him. Freo traded out all the early picks in last years trade period so they are putting all the balls in this basket.

The Dogs have traded out their early picks and the first they have remaining is now #38. Unless their is a swap for Lobb, #38 will be the best we get for Coffield. Hopefully we get pick #13 compo for Gresham, then we can offer either pick #32 or #38 or a F2nd for Henry.

Bulldogs pick 38 will ballon out to 40 odd…that won’t get it done, especially with Coffield on 23 years old!
Maybe an exchange of future picks as a sweetener

 

[snails13]

If the Shiel meal deal is off and they lowball Gresham then we just keep him.

Gresham has stated in that latest Cal Twitter post that he is off to Essendon(Not nominated Essendon)so I think he knows the deal and at worst it will be end of first

 

[saintmike65]

What's the logic, your perception of them as players?

Same age but Doedee recovering from an ACL…Gresham would have been on big money from his 2019 contract

 

[Saintpav]

Straight swap:

Billings for Nobel.

Make it happen SOS.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Same age but Doedee recovering from an ACL…Gresham would have been on big money from his 2019 contract

Was reported as being on $600K to $725K.
Doesn't mean he's getting a pay rise of even getting paid as much.

 

[Yawkey way]

Straight swap:

Billings for Nobel.

Make it happen SOS.

Why would we want Nobel ?.

 

[chris_h_11]

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the whole "Top 5%" thing is based on the contract status of players at Round 1 2023.

But the salary cap has gone up by 15% for 2024. Hence why I reckon all of the compo so far this Trade window has looked to be overs.