Resource 2024 AFL Draft discussion thread (Wed Nov 20 to Fri Nov 22)

[Jeffcrowe]

How do you feel about Cal and the Rookie Me folks having Reid so high?

It seems quite surprising to me

I can understand it as he’s a bit of a magician

I wonder if he wasn’t vic metro and Sandringham whether he’d be as appreciated though

He’s a high risk selection in the top 10 IMO but also could be high reward

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I reckon Port will take him at their #29 or #36, very astute pick IMO. Likely the 3rd SA player off the board.

Nice long term Houston replacement

They’ll have a few chances , Lindsay ( starts at half back ) and Travaglia earlier too

 

[Mutineer]

I can understand it as he’s a bit of a magician

I wonder if he wasn’t vic metro and Sandringham whether he’d be as appreciated though

He’s a high risk selection in the top 10 IMO but also could be high reward

Highly skilled all round with great footy I.Q. but my question would be his ability to win his own ball in a contest at the AFL level and given he's pretty pedestrian pace wise to the eye could be a factor too?

 

[spenze]

He does have some Jake Stringer like qualities but at the moment he’d be one midfield effort then lean on a goal post

Needs to work hard all pre season start well forward then see where he gets to , could definitely throw his weight around up the field in time

Yeah I get that, he is nowhere near fitness but at SANFL ,a CBA here and there wouldn’t hurt

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Highly skilled all round with great footy I.Q. but my question would be his ability to win his own ball in a contest at the AFL level and given he's pretty pedestrian pace wise to the eye could be a factor too?

Yeah definitely

I sort of thought of Pendlebury but he doesn’t have his reach or height

He could still be a gun , just a risk for me

 

[StonesThrow]

I do think people are underrating Jagga, he may be a victim of his own weight of possessions with the 'not damaging' label. No he doesn't run blindly through the stoppage and boot the ball as far as he can - he gets the ball, considers his best option for how to find a teammate and then finds them. His disposal efficiency was over 80% at the champs, that is wild for a guy who gets a ton of the ball and a lot of it in very tight spaces. Has Pendlebury like qualities with his composure in heavy traffic.

Got 50 touches in a Coates league game. His first game against men against a very good VFL team he got 31 touches inc. 18 contested. He's been durable, never plays a bad game and will play rd 1 next year. If he falls to us, we should not 2nd guess, thank our lucky stars and draft him.

Most of us have him top 3

 

[tinman]

But I'm more than happy to start him at half forward with an instruction to smash Butters and Rozee every chance he gets.

I think Welsh might struggle to catch either

 

[Crow till I die]

 

[Mutineer]

I think Welsh might struggle to catch either

Yet his preseason 20m testing at 2.92 sec would suggest he might but if they could evade him after that he might struggle..

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Yes, there's another List Lodgement - but Oct 31st was the deadline for delisting players. They need to be delisted in time to nominate for the ND (should they choose to do so), and the second List Lodgement isn't until after the ND.

Pretty weird that have not many any announcements about delisting and re-rookie-ing anyone yet

 

[GameofSloanes]

Did I miss an announcement? Did we delist someone to re-rookie them or not? If not, does that restrict us to only rookie listing welsh and we are screwed if someone bids on him in the ND? Vader ?

 

[bigman]

The age (marc mcgowan) has us taken Langford ahead of Draper, with Sid falling to the saints picks.

FWIW his top 40:

1. Rich - Lalor
2. BL - Ashcroft
3. NM - Tauru
4. Carl - FOS
5. Adel - Langford
6. Melb - Smith
7. Rich - Smillie
8. GCS - Lombard
9. Ess - Kako
10. STK - Draper
11. STK - Lindsay
12. Melb - Armstrong
13. Rich - Travaglia
14. Rich - Shanahan
15. WCE - Allan
16. Port - J Whitlock
17. Freo - Berry
18. GWS - Hotton
19. GWS - Hannaford
20. WB - Reid
21. Rich - Trainor
22. BL - Marshall
23. Syd - Dattoli
24. Rich - Alger
25. GWS - Faull
26. Syd - M Whitlock
27. Rich - Dodson
28. Rich - Hynes
29. WB - Gross
30. WCE - Mraz
31. Port - Barrat
32. Freo - Davis
33. Carl - B Camporeale
34. STK - Sims
35. Ess - West
36. Haw - Oliver
37. WB - Moraes
38. Port - Clarke
39. GWS - Unwin
40. Syd - Nicholls

 

[GROTTO]

The AFL draft is just weeks away. Here’s where the top-40 prospects could land

The draft is rapidly approaching and the 2024 class has recruiters salivating over its depth of talent and variety. We rank the top-40 players.

www.theage.com.au

​

5. Harvey Langford (Adelaide)​

Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
Midfielder, 191cm, 15/3/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 25.9 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 1.3 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 11 October top 30: 5
Agility test: 8.642 secs 20m sprint: 3.24 secs 2km time trial: 6:24 mins
Langford is one of the biggest risers from the start of the season, and shared the Larke Medal with Leo Lombard as the two most outstanding players at this year’s under-18 championships. That honour was the highlight of a consistently dominant year for a player who put the Stingrays on his back at times. Langford is tall for an onballer and that gives him an edge when he pushes forward, where his marking strength is another tick. His toughness and relentless running help him win a stack of the Sherrin, and talent scouts are mostly willing to overlook his lack of leg speed and the odd bad kicking decision.

The Crows could opt for local boy Sid Draper.

10. Sid Draper (St Kilda)​

South Adelaide/South Australia
Midfielder, 182cm, 5/7/2006
SANFL seniors stats (avg): 22.2 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 6.2 tackles
The Age’s August top 30: 6 October top 30: 10
Agility test: N/A 20m sprint: N/A 2km time trial: N/A
Draper could go as early as the second pick, in a sign of how even this draft is. His point of difference with his power and speed off the mark reminds recruiters of Patrick Dangerfield and Jason Horne-Francis, and he puts it to great use at stoppages. That quality is why Draper’s fans believe he has more “hurt factor” than some of his midfield peers in this draft class, whereas others query his decision-making and kicking in general. Another knock is Draper not being much of a goalkicker. However, the dual under-18 All-Australian is super competitive and finished the season well in the SANFL seniors after a shin stress injury delayed his season start.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

The age (marc mcgowan) has us taken Langford ahead of Draper, with Sid falling to the saints picks.

FWIW his top 40:

1. Rich - Lalor
2. BL - Ashcroft
3. NM - Tauru
4. Carl - FOS
5. Adel - Langford
6. Melb - Smith
7. Rich - Smillie
8. GCS - Lombard
9. Ess - Kako
10. STK - Draper
11. STK - Lindsay
12. Melb - Armstrong
13. Rich - Travaglia
14. Rich - Shanahan
15. WCE - Allan
16. Port - J Whitlock
17. Freo - Berry
18. GWS - Hotton
19. GWS - Hannaford
20. WB - Reid
21. Rich - Trainor
22. BL - Marshall
23. Syd - Dattoli
24. Rich - Alger
25. GWS - Faull
26. Syd - M Whitlock
27. Rich - Dodson
28. Rich - Hynes
29. WB - Gross
30. WCE - Mraz
31. Port - Barrat
32. Freo - Davis
33. Carl - B Camporeale
34. STK - Sims
35. Ess - West
36. Haw - Oliver
37. WB - Moraes
38. Port - Clarke
39. GWS - Unwin
40. Syd - Nicholls

If Dodson drops to 27 do quests need to be asked about us losing our R2 pick.

Note: I am totally happy with ANB

 

[Vader]

Pretty weird that have not many any announcements about delisting and re-rookie-ing anyone yet

It is getting stranger by the hour. GWS & Hawthorn both made announcements yesterday.

I'm assuming they wanted to give the Welsh F/S announcement some clear air, and postponed the delisting announcement by 24 hours (despite the paperwork having been lodged yesterday).

 

[Vader]

Did I miss an announcement? Did we delist someone to re-rookie them or not? If not, does that restrict us to only rookie listing welsh and we are screwed if someone bids on him in the ND? Vader ?

The paperwork had to be lodged yesterday, but the club hasn't bothered to inform us via media release yet.

As things currently stand, we are not compliant with the AFL's mandatory minimum ND selection requirements.

 

[Crow till I die]

The AFL draft is just weeks away. Here’s where the top-40 prospects could land

The draft is rapidly approaching and the 2024 class has recruiters salivating over its depth of talent and variety. We rank the top-40 players.

www.theage.com.au

​

5. Harvey Langford (Adelaide)​

Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
Midfielder, 191cm, 15/3/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 25.9 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 1.3 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 11 October top 30: 5
Agility test: 8.642 secs 20m sprint: 3.24 secs 2km time trial: 6:24 mins
Langford is one of the biggest risers from the start of the season, and shared the Larke Medal with Leo Lombard as the two most outstanding players at this year’s under-18 championships. That honour was the highlight of a consistently dominant year for a player who put the Stingrays on his back at times. Langford is tall for an onballer and that gives him an edge when he pushes forward, where his marking strength is another tick. His toughness and relentless running help him win a stack of the Sherrin, and talent scouts are mostly willing to overlook his lack of leg speed and the odd bad kicking decision.

The Crows could opt for local boy Sid Draper.

10. Sid Draper (St Kilda)​

South Adelaide/South Australia
Midfielder, 182cm, 5/7/2006
SANFL seniors stats (avg): 22.2 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 6.2 tackles
The Age’s August top 30: 6 October top 30: 10
Agility test: N/A 20m sprint: N/A 2km time trial: N/A
Draper could go as early as the second pick, in a sign of how even this draft is. His point of difference with his power and speed off the mark reminds recruiters of Patrick Dangerfield and Jason Horne-Francis, and he puts it to great use at stoppages. That quality is why Draper’s fans believe he has more “hurt factor” than some of his midfield peers in this draft class, whereas others query his decision-making and kicking in general. Another knock is Draper not being much of a goalkicker. However, the dual under-18 All-Australian is super competitive and finished the season well in the SANFL seniors after a shin stress injury delayed his season start.

If Draper is on the board at our pick, I will be absolutely staggered if we overlook him

 

[Floating Doughnut]

I reckon Port will take him at their #29 or #36, very astute pick IMO. Likely the 3rd SA player off the board.

Disappointing, related to our Doc Clarke is he not ?

 

[GROTTO]

If Draper is on the board at our pick, I will be absolutely staggered if we overlook him

Almost a 100% certainty that the Crows pick Draper at our pick. Lalor wont get passed the Blues at Pick 3 if he is on the table.

 

[bigman]

If Dodson drops to 27 do quests need to be asked about us losing our R2 pick.

Note: I am totally happy with ANB

That would still be five picks short of the selection we gave Melbourne for ANB.

 

[ams4crows]

If Draper is on the board at our pick, I will be absolutely staggered if we overlook him

I'm not, because I think Hamish has Langford higher on his draft board

People in the media are connecting us to Langford that doesn't happen if we aren't interested the drums for Langford are getting louder by the day.

It will either be Langford or Draper we select at 4 it's just matter of who our recruiting team rank higher and who's available at 4

 

[bigman]

Almost a 100% certainty that the Crows pick Draper at our pick. Lalor wont get passed the Blues at Pick 3 if he is on the table.

No guarantees with anything Grotto.

The reactions from fans sure would be interesting however

 

[GROTTO]

No guarantees with anything Grotto.

The reactions from fans sure would be interesting however

Thats why I said almost 100% certainty.

Bigfooty crashes if Draper is on the table at our Pick 4 and we pick another mid instead. Worse still if we pick key position defender.

 

[GROTTO]

I'm not, because I think Hamish has Langford higher on his draft board

People in the media are connecting us to Langford that doesn't happen if we aren't interested the drums for Langford are getting louder by the day.

It will either be Langford or Draper we select at 4 it's just matter of who our recruiting team rank higher and who's available at 4

Is the difference between Langford and Draper similar to Danger and Ebert?

Its going to have to be that big for us to overlook a quality SA mid for a Vic kid.

 

[bigman]

I'm not, because I think Hamish has Langford higher on his draft board

People in the media are connecting us to Langford that doesn't happen if we aren't interested the drums for Langford are getting louder by the day.

It will either be Langford or Draper we select at 4 it's just matter of who our recruiting team rank higher and who's available at 4

The jungle drums are certainly beating ams

That being said there’s still almost three weeks to go. The consensus from the media can change quickly as we get close.