Game Day 2024 AFL Draft Live discussion Rd1, 2-4 and Rookie Draft

[CatToTheFuture]

There is only 2 ways in which the North trade doesn't look like a total stuff up: either the kid ends up being a generational talent, in which case who cares what you gave up? Or they have more or less confirmed LDU is gone as a FA next year so will get a good pick back that way.

Even of LDU is gone it's a moot point. They could have both firsts next year.

The only way it makes sense to me is if next years draft is genuinely trash

 

[BORIS332]

I love the trade by North. They need key position talls not mids and they will probably if there are quality key position early in next years pool. They saw Whitlock as a swing who can play both ends and by getting Richmond's 2nd rounder enables them to trade there own for next year and they may trade in early tomorrow to get another one.

Honestly, close to the dumbest trade I’ve seen, if not the dumbest.

KPFs take 3-5 years to come on. They could’ve kept their future first and taken the best KPF in next year’s draft who is likely much, much better than Whitlock.

 

[PeasFC]

This is what I will wishfully believe is happening until it does not...

28. Geelong - Jobe Shanahan (Bendigo Pioneers)
29. Western Bulldogs - Jasper Alger (Oakleigh Chargers)
30. West Coast - Noah Mraz (Dandenong Stingrays)
31. Western Bulldogs - Christian Moraes (Eastern Rangers)
32. St Kilda - Alex Dodson (Sturt)
33. Port Adelaide - Jack Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers)
34. Fremantle - Hamish Davis (Claremont)
35. Hawthorn - Jack Ough (GWV Rebels)
36. GWS - Angus Clarke (Glenelg)
37. Essendon - Jack Ough (GWV Rebels)
38. Port Adelaide - Lachie Jaques (Geelong Falcons)
39. Essendon - James Barrat (Bendigo Pioneers)
40. Carlton - Harry O'Farrell (Calder Cannons)
41. Sydney - Tom Sims (Northern Knights)
42. Richmond - Sam Davidson (Richmond VFL) Pick received from Geelong with F2
43. Essendon - Rhys Unwin (GWV Rebels)
44. West Coast - Hugh Boxshall (Claremont)
45. Collingwood - Adrian Cole (Sandringham Dragons)
46. Brisbane - Charlie Nicholls (Central Districts)
47. Brisbane - Josh Dolan (Sandringham Dragons)
48. Collingwood - Sam Toner
49. Brisbane - Clancy Dennis (Claremont)
50. GWS - Logan Smith (Giants Academy) Bid Matched
51. Carlton - Ben Camporeale (Glenelg) Bid Matched
52. Geelong - Floyd Burmeister (GWV Rebels)

Cats next picks...
Xavier Ivisic
Archer Day Wicks

Rookie: Bice or Blakiston

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

It was a long night, but Foxtel would always milk it for all it's worth.

Richmond's rebuild selections looked good on paper, but we all know that not all players work out once they start AFL-level football (even top 10 picks), so like on all draft picks, the jury's out until we see them playing.

North giving away a F1 for a second round in this draft was controversial. Again, how we judge it will depend on how good (or bad) Whitlock ends up being.

 

[SkittleCats]

When the Fox footy crew were all saying it wouldn't be a future first (pretty much as its stupid) and then it happened, the look of absolute shock on their faces, you know that it was a mare of a deal.

Except for Montagna who called it...Which says a lot about how smart this trade is.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Pull the trigger and trade a future first for Shanahan.

Knowing us we’ll trade a future first and pick up dodson who will never play if Conway comes on and Edwards will then be rendered a wasted pick

It's only a wasted pick if one of them can't be traded for a good return or they are injury busts.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Except for Montagna who called it...Which says a lot about how smart this trade is.

Is that a crack at Montagna because I've found him pretty intelligent.

 

[Two Planks]

Why wouldn't Richmond just draft Dodson

 

[year of the cat]

Why wouldn't Richmond just draft Dodson

They probably will.

 

[Lana]

Compare North's trade to what Melbourne paid to get pick 9 off Essendon and Carlton paid to get 14 off Hawthorn

 

[OzeSparky]

Except for Montagna who called it...Which says a lot about how smart this trade is.

Smart? nope

Desperate for a tall to support Souvlaki, Yes.

 

[year of the cat]

Compare North's trade to what Melbourne paid to get pick 9 off Essendon and Carlton paid to get 14 off Hawthorn

Whilst I agree it’s a very brave trade, perhaps Nth ranked Whitlock as a top 15 pick on their board? Until we see how Whitlock turns out we can’t make a definitive judgement on the trade. Just yet…..

 

[Lana]

Whilst I agree it’s a very brave trade, perhaps Nth ranked Whitlock as a top 15 pick on their board? Until we see how Whitlock turns out we can’t make a definitive judgement on the trade. Just yet…..

I'm happy to call it now, it was a fomo buy, I wouldn't have been happy to trade our F1

 

[Pure_Ownage]

This is what I will wishfully believe is happening until it does not...

28. Geelong - Jobe Shanahan (Bendigo Pioneers)
29. Western Bulldogs - Jasper Alger (Oakleigh Chargers)
30. West Coast - Noah Mraz (Dandenong Stingrays)
31. Western Bulldogs - Christian Moraes (Eastern Rangers)
32. St Kilda - Alex Dodson (Sturt)
33. Port Adelaide - Jack Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers)
34. Fremantle - Hamish Davis (Claremont)
35. Hawthorn - Jack Ough (GWV Rebels)
36. GWS - Angus Clarke (Glenelg)
37. Essendon - Jack Ough (GWV Rebels)
38. Port Adelaide - Lachie Jaques (Geelong Falcons)
39. Essendon - James Barrat (Bendigo Pioneers)
40. Carlton - Harry O'Farrell (Calder Cannons)
41. Sydney - Tom Sims (Northern Knights)
42. Richmond - Sam Davidson (Richmond VFL) Pick received from Geelong with F2
43. Essendon - Rhys Unwin (GWV Rebels)
44. West Coast - Hugh Boxshall (Claremont)
45. Collingwood - Adrian Cole (Sandringham Dragons)
46. Brisbane - Charlie Nicholls (Central Districts)
47. Brisbane - Josh Dolan (Sandringham Dragons)
48. Collingwood - Sam Toner
49. Brisbane - Clancy Dennis (Claremont)
50. GWS - Logan Smith (Giants Academy) Bid Matched
51. Carlton - Ben Camporeale (Glenelg) Bid Matched
52. Geelong - Floyd Burmeister (GWV Rebels)

Cats next picks...
Xavier Ivisic
Archer Day Wicks

Rookie: Bice or Blakiston

Essendon have a better fr1 to trade for shanahan than us. I wonder if we can trade for Dodson at 30.

If the draft pans out that way I'd snap up gerryn at our 40s pick unless we go davidson/henderson.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Whilst I agree it’s a very brave trade, perhaps Nth ranked Whitlock as a top 15 pick on their board? Until we see how Whitlock turns out we can’t make a definitive judgement on the trade. Just yet…..

If they rated him as a top 15 they should have split 2 for 8 and a future 1st for example. This is a dumb dumb trade.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Honestly, close to the dumbest trade I’ve seen, if not the dumbest.

KPFs take 3-5 years to come on. They could’ve kept their future first and taken the best KPF in next year’s draft who is likely much, much better than Whitlock.

They need help now for Nick malaka Larkey .
At this stage if Whitlock makes it he might replace Larkey.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Why wouldn't Richmond just draft Dodson

I don't think they need a ruck plus they will get offered future 1sts for 28.
Also if they want davidson they are better to trade 28 out then trade in a 40s pick for davidson instead of using 28 on him.

 

[cats_09]

Sounds like North was desperate to trade out of next years draft

 

[PeasFC]

Essendon have a better fr1 to trade for shanahan than us. I wonder if we can trade for Dodson at 30.

If the draft pans out that way I'd snap up gerryn at our 40s pick unless we go davidson/henderson.

yeh i have absolutely no expectation that this is anywhere near close.

there was lots of "mail" about us being hot on dodson so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see us move up to get him. hopefully our F1 is safe now. Still lots of players I like.

Shanahan, moraes, j whitlock, barrat, dodson, k gerryn, clark, mraz, sims, burmeister, stumf, davidson, jacques

 

[BennyGan]

Shanahan, Moares and Gerreyn are my 3 favourite players left

 

[PeasFC]

Shanahan, Moares and Gerreyn are my 3 favourite players left

Moraes would be such a bonus! he is class

 

[BennyGan]

Moraes would be such a bonus! he is class

My comp for him has been ollie dempsey, would be awesome having both of them on the wings

 

[PeasFC]

My comp for him has been ollie dempsey, would be awesome having both of them on the wings

Agree! Perfect duncan/touhy replacement and adds something different to our mid mix.

 

[My Tilly]

Agree! Perfect duncan/touhy replacement and adds something different to our mid mix.

Duncan will be difficult to replace. At his peak, very similar to Pops Kelly who often went unnoticed (to many outsiders) but was very much a barometer of the team.

Shame, because I always thought Duncan would be one of those players who would not hit the wall quickly. Could see him playing at a high level into his mid 30's but he's been cooked for the best part of 18 months now.

 

[PeasFC]

Duncan will be difficult to replace. At his peak, very similar to Pops Kelly who often went unnoticed (to many outsiders) but was very much a barometer of the team.

Shame, because I always thought Duncan would be one of those players who would not hit the wall quickly. Could see him playing at a high level into his mid 30's but he's been cooked for the best part of 18 months now.

One of my all time faves. Agreed